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Post#1641 » by Optimus_Steel » Fri Mar 8, 2024 3:12 am

Residual-Heat wrote:How much can the Suns offer Allen anyway?



My understanding they can’t
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Post#1642 » by RookieStar » Fri Mar 8, 2024 3:18 am

Optimus_Steel wrote:
Residual-Heat wrote:How much can the Suns offer Allen anyway?



My understanding they can’t


Nothing resepctable anyway i would think.

Beal Booker KD and even Nurk should have 75% of their salary I think.

Hopefully Grayson bets on himself and sees the offer in FA
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Post#1643 » by pepe1991 » Fri Mar 8, 2024 6:01 am

Tnx Edwards and Luka for being awesome.

Edwards tho. Guy bumped his head off rim in block and crushed on the floor, shoulders first. And dusted off. :o
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Post#1644 » by pepe1991 » Fri Mar 8, 2024 11:24 am

How big is gap between Jokic and next best player now? Seems like massive one. Guy is so dominant it's not even funny.
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Post#1645 » by Skybox » Fri Mar 8, 2024 12:32 pm

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basketballRob wrote:If Grayson Allen keeps shooting like this, the Suns will give him an extension before the March 27th deadline.

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Someone tell PB or WCJ or even Amile to use the brotherhood hotline and tell Grayson we are gonna overpay him.

Sheeeesh 7 3pters in yhe 1st quarter alone!!!

Imagine oppoaing teams tripling PB or double Franz while Grayson is just there waiting for the pass. PB gonna avergae 10 assists a game.


THIS…he’s already doing the hard work. Triple doubles are already on the table for PB. Whoever they sign better be the finisher PB needs. Suggs, AB all coming along nicely but a guy like Simons or Grayson are a whole different tier of long-range weaponry.
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Post#1646 » by Skybox » Fri Mar 8, 2024 12:34 pm

RookieStar wrote:
Optimus_Steel wrote:
Residual-Heat wrote:How much can the Suns offer Allen anyway?



My understanding they can’t


Nothing resepctable anyway i would think.

Beal Booker KD and even Nurk should have 75% of their salary I think.

Hopefully Grayson bets on himself and sees the offer in FA


Asked this in another thread but new PHX owner is not afraid to shell out…are they restricted in what they can offer to re-sign him. I know SAC is limited in what they can offer Monk.
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Post#1647 » by Skybox » Fri Mar 8, 2024 12:37 pm

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Optimus_Steel wrote:Imagine MoSwag and Grayson Allen pissing people off lol


With Jingles trash talking...

Talk about United Nations International hate


Jingles might be doing it from an Assistant Coach’s seat next season . Kidding not kidding :roll:
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Post#1648 » by pepe1991 » Fri Mar 8, 2024 12:54 pm

Skybox wrote:
RookieStar wrote:
basketballRob wrote:If Grayson Allen keeps shooting like this, the Suns will give him an extension before the March 27th deadline.

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Someone tell PB or WCJ or even Amile to use the brotherhood hotline and tell Grayson we are gonna overpay him.

Sheeeesh 7 3pters in yhe 1st quarter alone!!!

Imagine oppoaing teams tripling PB or double Franz while Grayson is just there waiting for the pass. PB gonna avergae 10 assists a game.


THIS…he’s already doing the hard work. Triple doubles are already on the table for PB. Whoever they sign better be the finisher PB needs. Suggs, AB all coming along nicely but a guy like Simons or Grayson are a whole different tier of long-range weaponry.


Only 2 players average 10 apg actually.
Haliburton and Young.

matter of fact only 4 nba players average above 9 apg and just 8 players average 8.

11th player in APG averages "just" 6,8 a game.
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Post#1649 » by Skybox » Fri Mar 8, 2024 1:00 pm

pepe1991 wrote:
Skybox wrote:
RookieStar wrote:
Someone tell PB or WCJ or even Amile to use the brotherhood hotline and tell Grayson we are gonna overpay him.

Sheeeesh 7 3pters in yhe 1st quarter alone!!!

Imagine oppoaing teams tripling PB or double Franz while Grayson is just there waiting for the pass. PB gonna avergae 10 assists a game.


THIS…he’s already doing the hard work. Triple doubles are already on the table for PB. Whoever they sign better be the finisher PB needs. Suggs, AB all coming along nicely but a guy like Simons or Grayson are a whole different tier of long-range weaponry.


Only 2 players average 10 apg actually.
Haliburton and Young.

matter of fact only 4 nba players average above 9 apg and just 8 players average 8.

11th player in APG averages "just" 6,8 a game.


PB will never average 10 apg but he should be a threat every night…similar category as Jokic, Sengun - he’ll take it if you give it

10 rebs seems as unlikely
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Post#1650 » by CocoaFan » Fri Mar 8, 2024 7:13 pm

Skybox wrote:
RookieStar wrote:
Optimus_Steel wrote:

My understanding they can’t


Nothing resepctable anyway i would think.

Beal Booker KD and even Nurk should have 75% of their salary I think.

Hopefully Grayson bets on himself and sees the offer in FA


Asked this in another thread but new PHX owner is not afraid to shell out…are they restricted in what they can offer to re-sign him. I know SAC is limited in what they can offer Monk.
Phoenix is already $19M above the tax threshold with only 10 players under contract for next year. I can't imagine them paying tax on every dollar for a big contract for Grayson. Check spotrac.com under NBA teams/salaries by year.
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Post#1651 » by Residual-Heat » Fri Mar 8, 2024 8:38 pm

RookieStar wrote:
Optimus_Steel wrote:
Residual-Heat wrote:How much can the Suns offer Allen anyway?



My understanding they can’t


Nothing resepctable anyway i would think.

Beal Booker KD and even Nurk should have 75% of their salary I think.

Hopefully Grayson bets on himself and sees the offer in FA

Apparently they can offer him just as much as the Magic since they have his "full bird rights".
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Post#1652 » by RookieStar » Fri Mar 8, 2024 8:56 pm

Residual-Heat wrote:
RookieStar wrote:
Optimus_Steel wrote:

My understanding they can’t


Nothing resepctable anyway i would think.

Beal Booker KD and even Nurk should have 75% of their salary I think.

Hopefully Grayson bets on himself and sees the offer in FA

Apparently they can offer him just as much as the Magic since they have his "full bird rights".


Grayson is making just a shade under 9m/yr in his current contract right? We offer something like a 4yr/60 with last Team Option...or even higher. PHO ownership can afford that, but can they do it at the expense if their CAP and with other signings they need?

After this season they know they have lots of glaring holes to fill like a quality backup to Nurk, a verstile PF to backup KD and etc
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Post#1653 » by RookieStar » Fri Mar 8, 2024 8:58 pm

CocoaFan wrote:
Skybox wrote:
RookieStar wrote:
Nothing resepctable anyway i would think.

Beal Booker KD and even Nurk should have 75% of their salary I think.

Hopefully Grayson bets on himself and sees the offer in FA


Asked this in another thread but new PHX owner is not afraid to shell out…are they restricted in what they can offer to re-sign him. I know SAC is limited in what they can offer Monk.
Phoenix is already $19M above the tax threshold with only 10 players under contract for next year. I can't imagine them paying tax on every dollar for a big contract for Grayson. Check spotrac.com under NBA teams/salaries by year.


THIS. ITs not about the pocketbook of the owener, its about the CAP and their need to sign other players as well. Watching Eubanks get demolished against big physical Cs or versatile bigs that make Nurk looks like a statue, forwards that can wear the body of KD etc etc means they have a lot of holes as well.
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Post#1654 » by RookieStar » Fri Mar 8, 2024 9:00 pm

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pepe1991 wrote:
Skybox wrote:
THIS…he’s already doing the hard work. Triple doubles are already on the table for PB. Whoever they sign better be the finisher PB needs. Suggs, AB all coming along nicely but a guy like Simons or Grayson are a whole different tier of long-range weaponry.


Only 2 players average 10 apg actually.
Haliburton and Young.

matter of fact only 4 nba players average above 9 apg and just 8 players average 8.

11th player in APG averages "just" 6,8 a game.


PB will never average 10 apg but he should be a threat every night…similar category as Jokic, Sengun - he’ll take it if you give it

10 rebs seems as unlikely


yeah... the rebounds seems spread among all the players. its not like in CHI where Vuc or Drum eats them whole and they get double digit rebounds all the time.
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Post#1655 » by RookieStar » Fri Mar 8, 2024 10:45 pm

Also, NOP , OKC and Wolves... we gotta root for them. Not only to solidify our standings but maybe even steal the 3rd spot of CLE frefalls.
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Post#1656 » by basketballRob » Sat Mar 9, 2024 10:10 pm

Now Mathurin is out for the season with a torn labrum.

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Post#1657 » by RookieStar » Sat Mar 9, 2024 10:37 pm

basketballRob wrote:Now Mathurin is out for the season with a torn labrum.

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Lot of teams are getting hit by injuries. Kinda makes you see sense with how our team plays with 10-11 man rotation.
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Post#1658 » by eyriq » Mon Mar 11, 2024 2:26 am

Knicks next 5
vs Sixers
at Blazers
at Kings
at Warriors
at Nuggets

Magic next 5
vs Nets
at Raptors
vs Raptors
vs Hornets
vs Pelicans

Sixers next 5
at Knicks
at Bucks
vs Hornets
vs Heat
at Suns

Pacers next 5
at Thunder
vs Bulls
vs Nets
vs Cavs
at Pistons

Heat next 5
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Post#1659 » by eyriq » Mon Mar 11, 2024 2:30 am

We very likely could be back in 4th within the next 5 games.
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Post#1660 » by pepe1991 » Mon Mar 11, 2024 6:27 am

When Kawhi & George play, Clippers are one of most enjoyable teams to watch, at least to me, it seems like they always have one person wide open and on defense they can choke you.

Btw it goes below radar that Anthony Davis is having amazing year.

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