(LOCK THREAD) The LeBron James- 23-24 NBA Thread - 40K POINTS+(Part 1)(NO INSULTING)

[PooledSilver]

Lebron should take a paycut tbh. What if he does under the circumstance they use the assets? (or first they make the move to assure him)

But he wouldn't. Most likely they're gonna run it back with Dlo around 3/75M + trade 24' for an upgrade on the wing

Idk if I see us paying Dlo 25m a yr for 3 years tbh

He is a good to very good shooter, but not elite and he is a meh to poor finisher for a guard

Solid passer, but not elite

Not great in transition, unathletic for a guard, and not a great defender

He and Reaves need to be paired with a more athletic 1/2 next to them who is a better defender

What wings are available or upgrades even? Feels like not a lot of great wings out there. If we aren't making a big guard splash, then it has to be for a wing. Cam Johnson from BKN would be great

Not drafting Cam Whitmore (let alone Jaquez) was a big mistake. Cam was right there for the taking and falling hard

I would really like us to play more Christie to see what we have in him

Last 25 games DLO is for sure worth 25 million but it’s about consistency and playoff performance

[PooledSilver]

Lakers are something like 11-5 of their last 16 and mostly have gone against above .500 teams

Lazy bron post IST hurt a lot lol

[Mos_Heat]

Lebron should take a paycut tbh. What if he does under the circumstance they use the assets? (or first they make the move to assure him)

But he wouldn't. Most likely they're gonna run it back with Dlo around 3/75M + trade 24' for an upgrade on the wing

Idk if I see us paying Dlo 25m a yr for 3 years tbh

Why not? If LAL doesn't have a star guard on the roster after the draft, it's the most likely scenario

[trickshot]

Could also swing for Lavine and Caruso.

Dlo, Vando, Vincent, JHS, rookie, 29 1st with limited protections and or a swap?

Caruso, Lavine, Rui, Lebron, AD
Reaves, Christie, Prince??, Wood?

Still have an mle and some assets left to upgrade

I think an offensive trio of AD, Bron, and Lavine is good enough. Reaves and Rui can add more there as well ofc.

This team without Christie, Prince and Wood would be 1M away from the first apron. No way Buss would pay that much +
repeater

Lebron should take a paycut tbh. What if he does under the circumstance they use the assets? (or first they make the move to assure him)

He should but he's stuck in the pre-2013 Nba where one player's contract could cap the market for the rest of their class. Then the lockout happened and the players felt they got fleeced by the owners and never really got over it. NBPA leadership famously asked players to take no team firndly paycuts to help the billionaires.

To an extent I understand why because an owner like Jeannie isn't necessarily going to use the savings for more talent, not after this season and the Ham fiasco. Throwing away a better shot at a title for money because there's no way they think Ham is a great coach. right? right? Or FO would have to believe they are 10th seed because they built a crap roster and Ham has nothing to do with it.

[nzahir]

But he wouldn't. Most likely they're gonna run it back with Dlo around 3/75M + trade 24' for an upgrade on the wing

Idk if I see us paying Dlo 25m a yr for 3 years tbh

Why not? If LAL doesn't have a star guard on the roster after the draft, it's the most likely scenario

While DLO is nice, he isn't an elite guard

I listed the reasons above

Rather just pay up more and step up there with some assets

Unless we are going for a nice wing route

Ideal/bigger name targets this summer:

Guards: Mitchell, Trae, Kyrie? (depends how Dallas' season plays out), Dame (depends how Bucks season plays out, but I doubt they move off in 1 year)
Wings: Bridges


More realistic:
Guards: Lavine, DJM, Kyrie?, Caruso
Wings: Cam Johnson, Jerami Grant?, DFS (meh)

If we go with the more realistic names, probably need 2 of these guys and maybe a better C, to really compete

[Fadeaway_J]

Absolutely no rhyme or reason to this team.

[PistolPeteJR]

Absolutely no rhyme or reason to this team.

Not true. I’ll give you a hint: watch what generally happens when LeBron sits.

[IG2]

Ankle looks fine. This continues to be his best-looking season since bubble 2020. Doesn't look 39 at all.

[homecourtloss]

Absolutely no rhyme or reason to this team.

The oddsmakers would absolutely agree with you. They are never a big favorite even when they play terrible teams, and they are never really big underdogs, because the oddsmakers are always afraid that LeBron and A.D. would play of those LeBron and A.D. type games with some threes and occasional threes sprinkled in from others.

[PooledSilver]

Idk if I see us paying Dlo 25m a yr for 3 years tbh

Why not? If LAL doesn't have a star guard on the roster after the draft, it's the most likely scenario

While DLO is nice, he isn't an elite guard

I listed the reasons above

Rather just pay up more and step up there with some assets

Unless we are going for a nice wing route

Ideal/bigger name targets this summer:

Guards: Mitchell, Trae, Kyrie? (depends how Dallas' season plays out), Dame (depends how Bucks season plays out, but I doubt they move off in 1 year)
Wings: Bridges


More realistic:
Guards: Lavine, DJM, Kyrie?, Caruso
Wings: Cam Johnson, Jerami Grant?, DFS (meh)

If we go with the more realistic names, probably need 2 of these guys and maybe a better C, to really compete

It’ll be about his playoff performance, last time was a bad run not much a sample before that.

If he plays at the level of the last 25 or so games he’s easily a 25m player

[Kingdibs19]

A few years ago all these kids fell for the same propaganda by way of “the last dance” that their parents did from the nba/media/corporate commercials that were once pushed on them. Too bad for Jordan this generation has the internet and could bring up 90s games and watch them in full. This and future generations know who the goat is.

[Mos_Heat]

Idk if I see us paying Dlo 25m a yr for 3 years tbh

Why not? If LAL doesn't have a star guard on the roster after the draft, it's the most likely scenario

While DLO is nice, he isn't an elite guard

I listed the reasons above

Rather just pay up more and step up there with some assets

Unless we are going for a nice wing route

Ideal/bigger name targets this summer:

Guards: Mitchell, Trae, Kyrie? (depends how Dallas' season plays out), Dame (depends how Bucks season plays out, but I doubt they move off in 1 year)
Wings: Bridges


More realistic:
Guards: Lavine, DJM, Kyrie?, Caruso
Wings: Cam Johnson, Jerami Grant?, DFS (meh)

If we go with the more realistic names, probably need 2 of these guys and maybe a better C, to really compete

Caruso and Kuz/Cam is the most realistic scenario

[nzahir]

Why not? If LAL doesn't have a star guard on the roster after the draft, it's the most likely scenario

While DLO is nice, he isn't an elite guard

I listed the reasons above

Rather just pay up more and step up there with some assets

Unless we are going for a nice wing route

Ideal/bigger name targets this summer:

Guards: Mitchell, Trae, Kyrie? (depends how Dallas' season plays out), Dame (depends how Bucks season plays out, but I doubt they move off in 1 year)
Wings: Bridges


More realistic:
Guards: Lavine, DJM, Kyrie?, Caruso
Wings: Cam Johnson, Jerami Grant?, DFS (meh)

If we go with the more realistic names, probably need 2 of these guys and maybe a better C, to really compete

It’ll be about his playoff performance, last time was a bad run not much a sample before that.

If he plays at the level of the last 25 or so games he’s easily a 25m player

True, but there are better guards out there

The real issue is that he and Reaves are both limited athletically and its hard to have both out there at times

So its 1 of 3 options to fix this

1) Get a higher end offensive guard to just out offense others (could also justify playing a more defensive minded guard out there then)
2) Get a higher end 2/3 like Bridges and close out with 1 of Reaves and Dlo, Bridges, Rui, Bron, AD
3) Get a bigger physical 1/2 like Caruso or Smart to have as an option to play alongside the other

[nzahir]

A few years ago all these kids fell for the same propaganda by way of “the last dance” that their parents did from the nba/media/corporate commercials that were once pushed on them. Too bad for Jordan this generation has the internet and could bring up 90s games and watch them in full. This and future generations know who the goat is.

https://www.facebook.com/reel/1116129486073871?fs=e&s=m

[nzahir]

Why not? If LAL doesn't have a star guard on the roster after the draft, it's the most likely scenario

While DLO is nice, he isn't an elite guard

I listed the reasons above

Rather just pay up more and step up there with some assets

Unless we are going for a nice wing route

Ideal/bigger name targets this summer:

Guards: Mitchell, Trae, Kyrie? (depends how Dallas' season plays out), Dame (depends how Bucks season plays out, but I doubt they move off in 1 year)
Wings: Bridges


More realistic:
Guards: Lavine, DJM, Kyrie?, Caruso
Wings: Cam Johnson, Jerami Grant?, DFS (meh)

If we go with the more realistic names, probably need 2 of these guys and maybe a better C, to really compete

Caruso and Kuz/Cam is the most realistic scenario

Probably

Dont like Kuz that much, not a great catch and shoot guy

Neither is Caruso, but he is an elite defender

Weirdly enough Bridges has routed out as a negative on defense this year. Anyone know why? (edit, only a negtive on LEBRON, positive on EPM)

[PooledSilver]

While DLO is nice, he isn't an elite guard

I listed the reasons above

Rather just pay up more and step up there with some assets

Unless we are going for a nice wing route

Ideal/bigger name targets this summer:

Guards: Mitchell, Trae, Kyrie? (depends how Dallas' season plays out), Dame (depends how Bucks season plays out, but I doubt they move off in 1 year)
Wings: Bridges


More realistic:
Guards: Lavine, DJM, Kyrie?, Caruso
Wings: Cam Johnson, Jerami Grant?, DFS (meh)

If we go with the more realistic names, probably need 2 of these guys and maybe a better C, to really compete

It’ll be about his playoff performance, last time was a bad run not much a sample before that.

If he plays at the level of the last 25 or so games he’s easily a 25m player

True, but there are better guards out there

The real issue is that he and Reaves are both limited athletically and its hard to have both out there at times

So its 1 of 3 options to fix this

1) Get a higher end offensive guard to just out offense others (could also justify playing a more defensive minded guard out there then)
2) Get a higher end 2/3 like Bridges and close out with 1 of Reaves and Dlo, Bridges, Rui, Bron, AD
3) Get a bigger physical 1/2 like Caruso or Smart to have as an option to play alongside the other

Trade or get a defensive wing or another defensive guard and stagger minutes or something and double up if the lineups allow it

[nzahir]

It’ll be about his playoff performance, last time was a bad run not much a sample before that.

If he plays at the level of the last 25 or so games he’s easily a 25m player

True, but there are better guards out there

The real issue is that he and Reaves are both limited athletically and its hard to have both out there at times

So its 1 of 3 options to fix this

1) Get a higher end offensive guard to just out offense others (could also justify playing a more defensive minded guard out there then)
2) Get a higher end 2/3 like Bridges and close out with 1 of Reaves and Dlo, Bridges, Rui, Bron, AD
3) Get a bigger physical 1/2 like Caruso or Smart to have as an option to play alongside the other

Trade or get a defensive wing or another defensive guard and stagger minutes or something and double up if the lineups allow it[/quote]
The question is who are these guys

Feels like its just the few same names we have named

Also on Bridges, I forgot they allegedly turned down a trade from Hou where they could get their picks back.

So who knows if hes even available realistically

A lot of this all comes down to how DLo plays in the playoffs.

But for ex say its Vando, JHS, 2024 1st rookie, 2029 and 2031 1st with no protections and a 28 swap for Bridges

Dlo, Bridges, Rui, Bron, AD
Vincent, Reaves, Prince?/Christie, Wood, Hayes/mle for a C?

[Mos_Heat]

While DLO is nice, he isn't an elite guard

I listed the reasons above

Rather just pay up more and step up there with some assets

Unless we are going for a nice wing route

Ideal/bigger name targets this summer:

Guards: Mitchell, Trae, Kyrie? (depends how Dallas' season plays out), Dame (depends how Bucks season plays out, but I doubt they move off in 1 year)
Wings: Bridges


More realistic:
Guards: Lavine, DJM, Kyrie?, Caruso
Wings: Cam Johnson, Jerami Grant?, DFS (meh)

If we go with the more realistic names, probably need 2 of these guys and maybe a better C, to really compete

Caruso and Kuz/Cam is the most realistic scenario

Probably

Dont like Kuz that much, not a great catch and shoot guy

Neither is Caruso, but he is an elite defender

Weirdly enough Bridges has routed out as a negative on defense this year. Anyone know why? (edit, only a negtive on LEBRON, positive on EPM)

He's also negative in eRAPTOR

He's been way worse on defense since he got traded

[PistolPeteJR]

Caruso and Kuz/Cam is the most realistic scenario

Probably

Dont like Kuz that much, not a great catch and shoot guy

Neither is Caruso, but he is an elite defender

Weirdly enough Bridges has routed out as a negative on defense this year. Anyone know why? (edit, only a negtive on LEBRON, positive on EPM)

He's also negative in eRAPTOR

He's been way worse on defense since he got traded

Relegated to a smaller role on offense and with LeBron and AD directing him on defense, I'm very confident he'd find his footing on that end again.

[Heej]

A few years ago all these kids fell for the same propaganda by way of “the last dance” that their parents did from the nba/media/corporate commercials that were once pushed on them. Too bad for Jordan this generation has the internet and could bring up 90s games and watch them in full. This and future generations know who the goat is.

https://www.facebook.com/reel/1116129486073871?fs=e&s=m

The funniest part is how there's a thread about this and people on GB are crying over the fact that it's a trend on tiktok rather than addressing the glaring disparities from what's on film and what was told to us via propaganda