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Jerami Grant F
San Antonio Trades
2025 CHI FRP (Top-10 / Top-8 / Top-8)
2029 NO SRP
2030 CLE SRP
WHY FOR PORTLAND
They move off Grant to make room for the likely forwards picked using 1 or both of their 2024 FRP. Jerami is a quality starter with great size for a SF, but PDX is a few years away from anything of note so they cash him out for future lotto tickets.
WHY FOR SAN ANTONIO
The timeframe has contracted for a rebuild w/ Vic showing out so well, so quickly. Grant is a quality shooter with great size for a SF and the ability to guard multiple positions. He brings great locker room character and would be a favorite of Pops IMO. Vic needs more guys that can put the ball in the hoop to take pressure off him and IMO Grant is an excellent fit. He also is wildly quick with his release when taking kickout passes at the 3PT line and would do great there w/ Vic drawing double and triple teams.
FREE AGENCY
Malik Monk G *** 4 years / 85M *** - SAC has some tough decisions to make money wise and at the end of the day I think Monk walks. He is a very nice fit in SA adding athleticism, enough of a handle (Mitigated by Sochan and Vic being excellent passers) and a quality 3PT shot.
NBA DRAFT
SAS FRP - Matas Buzelis F - A clear cut Spurs type who is able to do a bit of everything and should the shot develop as hoped would eventually be a ideal fit at either forward spot.
TOR FRP - Reed Sheppard G - Another guy that SA should love - he is a elite shooter which you need around Vic and while not a true PG, as w/ Monk this is mitigated by Sochan and Vic being willing and able passers. He should be a menace on defense if overmatches w/ size at times. Should drastically improve the bench shooting from the jump.
SAS SRP - Tristan de Silva F - Another do-it-all type with high role player upside and a no quit motor.
2024/25 Spurs Roster
G - Mailk Monk / Reed Sheppard / Tre Jones
G - Devin Vassell / Keldon Johnson / Malaki Bradham
F - Jerami Grant / Matas Buzelis / Sidy Cissoko
F - Jeremy Sochan / Jerami Grant / Tristan de Silva
C - Victor Wembanyama / Zach Collins / Charles Bassey
Portland Trades
Jerami Grant F
San Antonio Trades
2025 CHI FRP (Top-10 / Top-8 / Top-8)
2029 NO SRP
2030 CLE SRP
WHY FOR PORTLAND
They move off Grant to make room for the likely forwards picked using 1 or both of their 2024 FRP. Jerami is a quality starter with great size for a SF, but PDX is a few years away from anything of note so they cash him out for future lotto tickets.
WHY FOR SAN ANTONIO
The timeframe has contracted for a rebuild w/ Vic showing out so well, so quickly. Grant is a quality shooter with great size for a SF and the ability to guard multiple positions. He brings great locker room character and would be a favorite of Pops IMO. Vic needs more guys that can put the ball in the hoop to take pressure off him and IMO Grant is an excellent fit. He also is wildly quick with his release when taking kickout passes at the 3PT line and would do great there w/ Vic drawing double and triple teams.
FREE AGENCY
Malik Monk G *** 4 years / 85M *** - SAC has some tough decisions to make money wise and at the end of the day I think Monk walks. He is a very nice fit in SA adding athleticism, enough of a handle (Mitigated by Sochan and Vic being excellent passers) and a quality 3PT shot.
NBA DRAFT
SAS FRP - Matas Buzelis F - A clear cut Spurs type who is able to do a bit of everything and should the shot develop as hoped would eventually be a ideal fit at either forward spot.
TOR FRP - Reed Sheppard G - Another guy that SA should love - he is a elite shooter which you need around Vic and while not a true PG, as w/ Monk this is mitigated by Sochan and Vic being willing and able passers. He should be a menace on defense if overmatches w/ size at times. Should drastically improve the bench shooting from the jump.
SAS SRP - Tristan de Silva F - Another do-it-all type with high role player upside and a no quit motor.
2024/25 Spurs Roster
G - Mailk Monk / Reed Sheppard / Tre Jones
G - Devin Vassell / Keldon Johnson / Malaki Bradham
F - Jerami Grant / Matas Buzelis / Sidy Cissoko
F - Jeremy Sochan / Jerami Grant / Tristan de Silva
C - Victor Wembanyama / Zach Collins / Charles Bassey
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Jerami Grant isn't a player you want to give up future flexibility for.
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Yeah not feeling the Jerami Grant thing either.
IMO, the Spurs need to use whatever they can to find another star young guy that fits Wemby's timeline and style. Guys like Grant and Monk, whilst good players, aren't really in the timeline for Wemby (Maybe Monk is, but they have a glut of ball handling guards).
The perfect young player to pair with Wemby would be Haliburton, but that's probably not happening.
I wonder what Trae Young at the Spurs would look like.
IMO, the Spurs need to use whatever they can to find another star young guy that fits Wemby's timeline and style. Guys like Grant and Monk, whilst good players, aren't really in the timeline for Wemby (Maybe Monk is, but they have a glut of ball handling guards).
The perfect young player to pair with Wemby would be Haliburton, but that's probably not happening.
I wonder what Trae Young at the Spurs would look like.
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Part of me wants to see the Spurs get Zion somehow to pair with Wemby
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Coxy wrote:Yeah not feeling the Jerami Grant thing either.
IMO, the Spurs need to use whatever they can to find another star young guy that fits Wemby's timeline and style. Guys like Grant and Monk, whilst good players, aren't really in the timeline for Wemby (Maybe Monk is, but they have a glut of ball handling guards).
The perfect young player to pair with Wemby would be Haliburton, but that's probably not happening.
I wonder what Trae Young at the Spurs would look like.
I think SAS will be looking for guys that help win now, not necessarily pure youth. It just seems very Pops to target vets over guys that fit some idealized timeline.
Obv Hali would be amazing but he isnt going anywhere. I personally am down on Tre' and worry about his ball pounding.
If we are talking a push the future FRP in for a youngster that fits the timeline I just dont see many options. Young is like 1 year younger than Monk FWIW.
Maybe scratch the Grant trade and move 4 FRP and ballast for Mikal?
My general idea here was a 'bridge' squad that is good enough to make some PO noise while Wemby develops but retains the war chest of picks for a all-in type move when the big fella gets closer to his first extension.
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Yeah I don’t think Grant is the piece for their cap space. I think Giddey could be an interesting target for them. Wemby can hide the defensive limitations, and he gets a point.
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MoneyTalks41890 wrote:Yeah I don’t think Grant is the piece for their cap space. I think Giddey could be an interesting target for them. Wemby can hide the defensive limitations, and he gets a point.
Josh for Keldon?
Sorta like that, but think a Josh / Keldon forward duo isnt bringing enough spacing.
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They should look into Tyus Jones and Lauri Markannen. Trey is obviously someone to look into as well but I don't know man I don't like point guards that don't defend (just my bias I guess).
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Drafting a generational star and immediately trading picks for “win now” players is usually a bad idea. That mindset has put Dallas behind the 8 ball with Luka; trading for Porzingis was a failure, but they got it in their mind that Luka was so ready that they should start trading picks.
San Antonio needs to relax and get more youth to churn through, hopefully finding some long term running mates. After two years they can take stock of it all and then make moves to add a win now guy where needed.
San Antonio needs to relax and get more youth to churn through, hopefully finding some long term running mates. After two years they can take stock of it all and then make moves to add a win now guy where needed.
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I would send the Bull's pick to the WOLVES for 24-year-old Reid to be VW's frontcourt partner. get D.Murray back for a pick and trade back to the Hawks...and select Topic+Risacher
1+1=11
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Coxy wrote:
IMO, the Spurs need to use whatever they can to find another star young guy that fits Wemby's timeline and style. Guys like Grant and Monk, whilst good players, aren't really in the timeline for Wemby (Maybe Monk is, but they have a glut of ball handling guards).
Star young guys just aren't available. Those are the guys that teams keep. (Granted once in a while an undervalued player eventually seen as a star become available but you certainly can't expect it.
The Spurs lottery picks (their own and possibly extras) are the more plausible way to get a secondary star on Wemby's timeline. Obviously that's a hit and miss plan, but it's at least possible.
There is a solid case for the Spurs adding 2-3 solid vet rotation guys (including 1-2 starters) so they can have a rotation full of credible rotation players and take a clear step forward next year (it's generally a multi-year process to go from rebuild mode to contender).
With that said, I'm not sure this is the plan It seems like you could do as well as Grant without giving up a 1st at all (while also solving Portland's luxury tax issue) and I'd want the team to have more of a PG playing PG than Monk is.
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giberish wrote:Coxy wrote:
IMO, the Spurs need to use whatever they can to find another star young guy that fits Wemby's timeline and style. Guys like Grant and Monk, whilst good players, aren't really in the timeline for Wemby (Maybe Monk is, but they have a glut of ball handling guards).
Star young guys just aren't available. Those are the guys that teams keep. (Granted once in a while an undervalued player eventually seen as a star become available but you certainly can't expect it.
The Spurs lottery picks (their own and possibly extras) are the more plausible way to get a secondary star on Wemby's timeline. Obviously that's a hit and miss plan, but it's at least possible.
There is a solid case for the Spurs adding 2-3 solid vet rotation guys (including 1-2 starters) so they can have a rotation full of credible rotation players and take a clear step forward next year (it's generally a multi-year process to go from rebuild mode to contender).
With that said, I'm not sure this is the plan It seems like you could do as well as Grant without giving up a 1st at all (while also solving Portland's luxury tax issue) and I'd want the team to have more of a PG playing PG than Monk is.
The Spurs have a tonne to dangle to a team that has a young star, even if they don't want to let them go. A top 3 pick this year (Could be No.1), a future pick and also players could be an enticing offer to a team.
It is hard to scower the league to find a star that fits though, you're right.
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MoneyTalks41890 wrote:Yeah I don’t think Grant is the piece for their cap space. I think Giddey could be an interesting target for them. Wemby can hide the defensive limitations, and he gets a point.
Giddy is a really interesting target for the Spurs. I like it, if OKC get what they want as well.
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Coxy wrote:giberish wrote:Coxy wrote:
IMO, the Spurs need to use whatever they can to find another star young guy that fits Wemby's timeline and style. Guys like Grant and Monk, whilst good players, aren't really in the timeline for Wemby (Maybe Monk is, but they have a glut of ball handling guards).
Star young guys just aren't available. Those are the guys that teams keep. (Granted once in a while an undervalued player eventually seen as a star become available but you certainly can't expect it.
The Spurs lottery picks (their own and possibly extras) are the more plausible way to get a secondary star on Wemby's timeline. Obviously that's a hit and miss plan, but it's at least possible.
There is a solid case for the Spurs adding 2-3 solid vet rotation guys (including 1-2 starters) so they can have a rotation full of credible rotation players and take a clear step forward next year (it's generally a multi-year process to go from rebuild mode to contender).
With that said, I'm not sure this is the plan It seems like you could do as well as Grant without giving up a 1st at all (while also solving Portland's luxury tax issue) and I'd want the team to have more of a PG playing PG than Monk is.
The Spurs have a tonne to dangle to a team that has a young star, even if they don't want to let them go. A top 3 pick this year (Could be No.1), a future pick and also players could be an enticing offer to a team.
It is hard to scower the league to find a star that fits though, you're right.
Since 2010 the only young stars moved (after they had played in the league as opposed to draft moves) are Harden and I guess Lauri. You generally have to wait until into a 2nd contract to get guys - which is significantly older than Wemby.
So if there's a situation like OKC in 2012 where a Harden-level young guy is even sort-of on the block than SA going hard for him is a great idea. But you obviously need a plan B (C, D, etc) as you certainly can't expect that option.
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Coxy wrote:MoneyTalks41890 wrote:Yeah I don’t think Grant is the piece for their cap space. I think Giddey could be an interesting target for them. Wemby can hide the defensive limitations, and he gets a point.
Giddy is a really interesting target for the Spurs. I like it, if OKC get what they want as well.
I don't think Giddy is a good target for the Spurs. SA needs their guards to shoot just like OKC does, and the draft has plenty of young guards with various combinations of measurables and skills. Giddy isn't a fresh rookie and he's not a high-impact star. There's no question I'd prefer the Spurs to get Grant and draft a PG than to trade for Giddy.
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giberish wrote:Coxy wrote:giberish wrote:
Star young guys just aren't available. Those are the guys that teams keep. (Granted once in a while an undervalued player eventually seen as a star become available but you certainly can't expect it.
The Spurs lottery picks (their own and possibly extras) are the more plausible way to get a secondary star on Wemby's timeline. Obviously that's a hit and miss plan, but it's at least possible.
There is a solid case for the Spurs adding 2-3 solid vet rotation guys (including 1-2 starters) so they can have a rotation full of credible rotation players and take a clear step forward next year (it's generally a multi-year process to go from rebuild mode to contender).
With that said, I'm not sure this is the plan It seems like you could do as well as Grant without giving up a 1st at all (while also solving Portland's luxury tax issue) and I'd want the team to have more of a PG playing PG than Monk is.
The Spurs have a tonne to dangle to a team that has a young star, even if they don't want to let them go. A top 3 pick this year (Could be No.1), a future pick and also players could be an enticing offer to a team.
It is hard to scower the league to find a star that fits though, you're right.
Since 2010 the only young stars moved (after they had played in the league as opposed to draft moves) are Harden and I guess Lauri. You generally have to wait until into a 2nd contract to get guys - which is significantly older than Wemby.
So if there's a situation like OKC in 2012 where a Harden-level young guy is even sort-of on the block than SA going hard for him is a great idea. But you obviously need a plan B (C, D, etc) as you certainly can't expect that option.
There's no reason why the Spurs should be looking at rookie-contract guys. Windows don't last very long. The Spurs shouldn't be trying to build a core for the next 15 years. They just need to build the best roster they can in 2024-2025 for the roadmap they want to follow. I'm far more inclined to hope they sign or trade for a star in his mid 30s than one 25 or under. Get a guy who can show Wemby how to win, then worry about getting him a co-star
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Spurs don’t touch this and Blazers do it very quickly. Spurs are going to want to keep the flexibility to bring in a higher level player next to Wemby, like if Luka requests out. Blazers could land a pick package like this for Grant as long as they take some salary back, but not pure salary and the picks.
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Giddey would be a great option as stated above.
Vassell, Giddey, Wemby
Then you need a defensive PG and defensive PF to start
Vassell, Giddey, Wemby
Then you need a defensive PG and defensive PF to start
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They should draft in the top 3 unless Garland becomes available, should Mitchell resign and the Cavs decide to do a 3 way trade with Utah where Garland goes to SA, Markannen to CLE and top-3 pick to Utah.
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zimpy27 wrote:Giddey would be a great option as stated above.
Vassell, Giddey, Wemby
Then you need a defensive PG and defensive PF to start
You can't have enough really high IQ players in the modern game now, and Giddy is definitely that. He'd be a great fit with the smart freak athlete in Wemby.
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