76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 2

[Jhawk03]

You guys wanna argue back and forth while still ignoring my point that this is a 2 man roster heading into the draft, which is absurd. Having only 2 players under contract by the time the draft rolls around is not a small thing.

Now if anyone has an issue with Embiid being one of those 2 players and would rather trade him, I'm okay with that opinion. However, if there was ever a time to truly build around the best player in the league, that time is approaching this summer. Trading Embiid now doesn't make any sense when we literally have over 12 players to acquire this summer. If you trade Embiid you want draft picks... NOT contracts, and you can't fill a roster with draft picks in a single year.

Shhh you're making too much sense.

Hey, I didn't invent the "ignore" feature and have never used it. But y'all do y'all.

[eyeatoma]

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[Bum Adebayo]

Before the latest Injury Embiid, talent and impact-wise, I'd rate as top ten all time.
It's been a long time since a player has been both the best offensive player and the best defensive player, but that's what Embiid was earlier this year.
He gets disrespected because of the Philly hate and the White Euro love, but he is clearly the best player in the world, and it's not close.

However, I feel it's over. With his latest injury, he will struggle with conditioning from now on. He's going to have to choose if he wants to play defense or offense, he won't have the motor for both.
It's what Jokic and Doncic do, what Harden does. He can still put up big numbers if he wants to. But I don't think that's him, he wants to play both ends.

The problem is, outside of Embiid this roster is a dumpster fire. If he is not dominating on both ends of the floor Philly are a lottery team.

If you take Embiid out, and take the best player from every other team in the NBA out - is there any team you think the Sixers could beat in a 7 game series? I can't think of any. And if you can come up with one, how long did you have to think to find one?

Philly are about to head into a long winter.

Talent wise it's possible, impact wise in Regular season but not overall of course.

[Bum Adebayo]

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How is this possible? some people said Oubre is worth the vet minimum and not more, and now a coach that is considered good by almost all fans is choosing him over mr. max money Harris?

[Bum Adebayo]

Before the latest Injury Embiid, talent and impact-wise, I'd rate as top ten all time.
It's been a long time since a player has been both the best offensive player and the best defensive player, but that's what Embiid was earlier this year.
He gets disrespected because of the Philly hate and the White Euro love, but he is clearly the best player in the world, and it's not close.

However, I feel it's over. With his latest injury, he will struggle with conditioning from now on. He's going to have to choose if he wants to play defense or offense, he won't have the motor for both.
It's what Jokic and Doncic do, what Harden does. He can still put up big numbers if he wants to. But I don't think that's him, he wants to play both ends.

The problem is, outside of Embiid this roster is a dumpster fire. If he is not dominating on both ends of the floor Philly are a lottery team.

If you take Embiid out, and take the best player from every other team in the NBA out - is there any team you think the Sixers could beat in a 7 game series? I can't think of any. And if you can come up with one, how long did you have to think to find one?

Philly are about to head into a long winter.

Right he's had two meniscus injuries and has come back more dominant each time but this is the one. Lol such a clown take...

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Look, I get you come on here and spam every thread that doesn't have the "yeah Philly are the greatest!!!!!" crap, to drown out anyone trying to have a reasonable discussion, but it gets pretty tiring, and mods need to sort it out.

As you said, Embiid is on his third meniscus injury is about to turn 30 and struggles with his fitness at the best of times due to his size and injury history. He had part of his meniscus cut out, which will definitely impact his movement and athleticism, and ability to complete cardio work.

If you want to do the whole "PHILLY ROCKS YEEAAHHHH!" routine, good for you, but some of us like to be realistic.

Anyone that is not blinded by emotions and "the process" would understand how trading Embiid when he shows he can still put great numbers in Regular Season next season is our best option moving forward. It's only a steep decline for him from now on unfortunately, we need to move on.

[Bum Adebayo]

Embiid is destined to be a Knicks player, I'm convinced of that, a Brunson-Embiid pairing has to be on the cards!

[Zumramania]

Tobias last 4 games
34.5 MPG
10.5 PPG
18/51 FG (.353)
1/15 3’s (.067)
7 Free throw attempts total

I think there must be politics involved and Nurse is not allowed to bench Tobias because the ownership would not look good considering they played a significant part in handing him out that contract. But I also think the other owners and GMs know it and may already be cracking jokes at our expense, if they haven't already been doing it during the past years.

[Eyeamok]

Tobias last 4 games
34.5 MPG
10.5 PPG
18/51 FG (.353)
1/15 3’s (.067)
7 Free throw attempts total

I think there must be politics involved and Nurse is not allowed to bench Tobias because the ownership would not look good considering they played a significant part in handing him out that contract. But I also think the other owners and GMs know it and may already be cracking jokes at our expense, if they haven't already been doing it during the past years.

Harris is in the last year of his contract and he is playing poorly. He may not have lived up to his max money, but other GM's cracking jokes about the 76ers why. If anything they should be cautious of dealing with the 76ers. Harris is on the decline and his contract comes off the books this year. Ben Simmons has been a complete albatross on the Nets. Kawhi Leonard is experiencing back spasms as we head into the home stretch for playoff seedings. Which means there's going to be a bigger load on James Harden. James Harden has found his nitch as the #3 guy on a good team. If Leonard continues to have problems IMO the clippers are doomed. Yeah as an opposing GM I would not be so quick to laugh at Morey and this organization but that's just me.

[Eyeamok]

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How is this possible? some people said Oubre is worth the vet minimum and not more, and now a coach that is considered good by almost all fans is choosing him over mr. max money Harris?

Come on man I'm right there with you with the love for Oubre. But the fact of the matter is that no one was beating down Oubres door to sign him. And when I say no one I'm talking about GMS scouts other personnel in professional basketball NBA teams. He was a unappreciated, undervalued asset that only Morey saw as good value. Do you know how I know that? Because Oubre took a vet minimum contract. A contract and a situation he has used to play himself into a better contract and more money next season if not here then someplace else. Good for him.

Fans are fickle and say some good stuff and some bad to stupid stuff. I recall a few years ago there were "fans" saying Anthony Edwards was a bust in his rookie season. WTF. Lol.

Morey made a good pickup with Oubre. Hopefully he can be part of the roster going forward. And Harris is just playing really badly. I'm glad Nurse is giving Oubre more opportunities to shine.

[Lou_23]

The season is over. Playing Embiid this year is malpractice.The only reason to play him is the tickets money in the two games at home in the playoffs.

They arent going to go there if they dont play him in the play in.

[Lou_23]

Oubre was a good signing , but you need good players around him.

[Eyeamok]

Sayed we need to trade Embiid before season started an do a quick rebuild with the crazy amount of assets he would bring.

Hope you enjoyed those meaningless 40 games of regular season, it all be worth it when we are in a long and painfull rebuild in a couple of years. Hope you got them on tape and enjoy them wherever you can!

Games on tape?

Ok what do you trade Embiid for?

[Bum Adebayo]

Oubre was a good signing , but you need good players around him.

Yeah man, with other players like Maxey, you don't need good players around him, if he is surrounded by bad players it's ok...

[Lou_23]

Oubre was a good signing , but you need good players around him.

Yeah man, with other players like Maxey, you don't need good players around him, if he is surrounded by bad players it's ok...

Maxey always takes the same shots, Oubre not. And you have a problem when Oubre takes more shots.

[Bum Adebayo]

I don't really have a problem with that though.

[the_process]

Joel Embiid is ‘not anywhere close’ to returning, per Ramona

“The hope that they have in Philly is that they can just stay in the mix for Joel Embiid to come back the last week or so of the season, at least where he has a chance to get back some conditioning before the playoffs.”

"Stay in the mix" needs to be defined by Ramona, or Morey.

They will be the 8th or 9th seed by the time they play OKC at home April 2nd. They then go on a 6 day 3 game road trip. Embiid will not be coming back on a road trip. And then they have three games in 6 days at home to close the regular season. They could bring Embiid back then, that would be 9 weeks post surgery.

But what would be the point? Best case you win the 7-8 game and get drubbed by Milwaukee in the 1st round? Is that going to help sell PG13 on coming? Or convince City Council to let them build a stadium in Chinatown?

As long as they don't lose to Boston again, it's all whatever. Jo wants to come back so he can play in the Olympics IMO, so everything else is moot.

[the_process]

Oubre was a good signing , but you need good players around him.

Yeah man, with other players like Maxey, you don't need good players around him, if he is surrounded by bad players it's ok...

Maxey always takes the same shots, Oubre not. And you have a problem when Oubre takes more shots.

Oubre's gunning is good off the bench. It's less than optimal with the starting lineup.

[Bum Adebayo]

Yeah it's absolutely optimal with Harris though.

[Mik317]

Oubre is flawed but the fact that he at least always plays hard (sometimes to a fault lol) makes up for a lot and for the vet min...thats more than ok. If he was on a max, then his flaws would hurt more but even then...

Tobias looks either hurt or checked out...which would be stupid as **** as I assume he'd want to get paid this offseason lol. He's had bad stretches before but those stretches he'd be invisible and we would be left wondering where's Tobias....he has been showcasing his badness this stretch lol. He is moving stiffer than ever which makes his already poor rebounding, getting to loose balls, and mid defense worse...and he can't even cook on those slow back downs anymore. He used to feast in the non Biid games. So if that is the case...then he needs to **** sit lol.

This franchise constantly seems to make the wrong decisions when it comes to this

[the_process]

Yeah it's absolutely optimal with Harris though.

Are you saying you'd rather have Oubre shooting than Tobias? I mean, sure, but that's not saying much.