
For those who want to watch the video breakdown and analysis. Analysis of Jordan's iso scoring numbers starts at 19m mark for those who do not want to watch whole video.
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John Henson wrote:This lady just asked me who I play for and I said the Milwaukee Bucks, she quickly replied “oh the highschool across the street?”
Kobe187 wrote:The crazy thing is defence is non existent nowadays too, efficiency should be way up. Just speaks to Jordan’s greatness.
SelfishPlayer wrote:The Mavs won playoff games without Luka
zimpy27 wrote:You'd have to compare to iso efficiency of the time since iso was more efficient back then generally.
Doctor MJ wrote:I don't understand why people jump in a thread and say basically, "This thing you're all talking about. I'm too ignorant to know anything about it. Lollerskates!"
Johnny Bball wrote:Just a side note....You see Derozan up there at the top. That was hard work that got him there. For the offeason one year, he did everything left handed from shooting/dribbling to writing, brushing his teeth, eating, etc. until his offhand felt as comfortable.
Then you have Harden beside him that's left-handed and you wonder why he's on it.
NO-KG-AI wrote:zimpy27 wrote:You'd have to compare to iso efficiency of the time since iso was more efficient back then generally.
Based on what?
zimpy27 wrote:NO-KG-AI wrote:zimpy27 wrote:You'd have to compare to iso efficiency of the time since iso was more efficient back then generally.
Based on what?
Based on it being a more regular move and much less help defense and no zone either.
More suited to isolation play than 00s or later.
Doctor MJ wrote:I don't understand why people jump in a thread and say basically, "This thing you're all talking about. I'm too ignorant to know anything about it. Lollerskates!"
NO-KG-AI wrote:zimpy27 wrote:NO-KG-AI wrote:
Based on what?
Based on it being a more regular move and much less help defense and no zone either.
More suited to isolation play than 00s or later.
More teams iso’d in the post Jordan era from a volume standing, but I’ve never seen anything suggesting that iso’s are less efficient now than they were, considering how easy it is to draw fouls and the space.
I’d love to see the efficiency numbers on isos, I’d guess they are more efficient now.
zimpy27 wrote:NO-KG-AI wrote:zimpy27 wrote:
Based on it being a more regular move and much less help defense and no zone either.
More suited to isolation play than 00s or later.
More teams iso’d in the post Jordan era from a volume standing, but I’ve never seen anything suggesting that iso’s are less efficient now than they were, considering how easy it is to draw fouls and the space.
I’d love to see the efficiency numbers on isos, I’d guess they are more efficient now.
Well put it this way, the data in OP video says Jordan shot 61% FG from what they saw in isolation over many games.
Jordan was around 53% over that 3 year period from 2. So he was far more efficient in iso scoring than a catch and shoot or pass based scoring opportunity.
Doctor MJ wrote:I don't understand why people jump in a thread and say basically, "This thing you're all talking about. I'm too ignorant to know anything about it. Lollerskates!"
NO-KG-AI wrote:zimpy27 wrote:NO-KG-AI wrote:
More teams iso’d in the post Jordan era from a volume standing, but I’ve never seen anything suggesting that iso’s are less efficient now than they were, considering how easy it is to draw fouls and the space.
I’d love to see the efficiency numbers on isos, I’d guess they are more efficient now.
Well put it this way, the data in OP video says Jordan shot 61% FG from what they saw in isolation over many games.
Jordan was around 53% over that 3 year period from 2. So he was far more efficient in iso scoring than a catch and shoot or pass based scoring opportunity.
Jordan is the greatest slasher to ever play the game. I want to see evidence that isolation efficiency overall was higher in Jordan’s era. Jordan’s being higher than the guys that aren’t as good as him now isn’t proof that it was easier overall. It’s just easier for Jordan…
ForeverTFC wrote:Not comparable. Isolation is a different beast with and without illegal defense.
Snake3 wrote:ForeverTFC wrote:Not comparable. Isolation is a different beast with and without illegal defense.
But it was isolation with no good spacing and with no 3 defensive second.
All and all, it was a different game back then.
And MJ play style was just two-three dribbles and then he makes a shot or a pass. He was always quick with his decision making.