Wembanyama. I'm concerned

[tsherkin]

Yeah agreed, it's not even the numbers. Just watching Wemby you could see that there are post moves that these guys don't seem bothered by Wemby on defense.

Wemby may get stronger but if he doesn't then Spurs need to think how to defend these guys.. that's all

Really good players require team-centric effort. San Antonio could have been doing better work to try and frustrate positioning and passes to favorite spots, etc, etc. Leaving it all on Wemby to guard the best player and bootstrap their crappy D was always going to be a problem this season. But yes, Sengun knows how to use his body and the rim quite well.

[Bornstellar]

Yeah Sengun gave him the business, Wemby has had some trouble on big guys that are very talented offensively.

Either Wemby gets bigger or Spurs do end up playing him at PF with a stretch 5.

Have you watched him at all this year? He's more productive as a 5 and the team is better with him at that spot as well. Why would you move him back to the 4?

Yeah, I was the one pushing him to the 5 against the argument of others early in the season.

But if you do watch him you will see he gets bodied by offensively talented bigs. Similarly to KP. Maybe Wemby grows stronger like AD or maybe he needs a 5 next to him so that he can work more as a help defender on the offensively talented bigs.

I'm already thinking about how you go deep in the playoffs with Wemby, what does he need, etc

I wouldn't say he gets bodied by talented bigs. But moreso guys with effective post games with great footwork and strength. Sabonis had a really good game against Wemby also. Both he and Sengun understand how to use their bodies to get position and repeatedly backed him under the rim where his length is semi negated. Doesn't help that the Spurs don't send any help his way. Luckily for Vic there aren't many crafty strong post players in the NBA these days to worry about

[Yoshun]

He also had 7 blocks in the Houston game....

This thread keeps getting bumped every time he has a good or bad game.

[tsherkin]

He also had 7 blocks in the Houston game....

40% shooting (2/5 3P, 2/5 2P), 6 turnovers, 4 fouls, only 10 points. It was a rough one.

He rebounded well. 11 in 30 minutes was nice. The blocks were nice. But it's okay to acknowledge the rough spots in a game.

[zimpy27]

Yeah agreed, it's not even the numbers. Just watching Wemby you could see that there are post moves that these guys don't seem bothered by Wemby on defense.

Wemby may get stronger but if he doesn't then Spurs need to think how to defend these guys.. that's all

Really good players require team-centric effort. San Antonio could have been doing better work to try and frustrate positioning and passes to favorite spots, etc, etc. Leaving it all on Wemby to guard the best player and bootstrap their crappy D was always going to be a problem this season. But yes, Sengun knows how to use his body and the rim quite well.

That's true, maybe a bigger 4 presence next to Wemby will help.

Just the footwork, his slim legs are easier to get a foot behind and once they have that then his slim body is easy to pivot around. I just noticed that it's going to be an ongoing issue that may be unavoidable because of the frame. You put a cheap guy like Tillman at the C on these guys with Wemby at PF, then you instantly defend them far better.

[tsherkin]

That's true, maybe a bigger 4 presence next to Wemby will help.

That would help. The Sheed to his Big Ben, so to speak.

Just the footwork, his slim legs are easier to get a foot behind and once they have that then his slim body is easy to pivot around. I just noticed that it's going to be an ongoing issue that may be unavoidable because of the frame. You put a cheap guy like Tillman at the C on these guys with Wemby at PF, then you instantly defend them far better.

A player always gives something up which the opponent can attack. You just deal with it, right? But in the end, Wemby needs to stay in the same positions he's been occupying since early December for maximum efficacy. Call the other big what you will, but he still needs the range and mobility to play like the 4 while Wemby can keep doing what he's been doing these last 3 dozen games or so.

[zimpy27]

That's true, maybe a bigger 4 presence next to Wemby will help.

That would help. The Sheed to his Big Ben, so to speak.

Just the footwork, his slim legs are easier to get a foot behind and once they have that then his slim body is easy to pivot around. I just noticed that it's going to be an ongoing issue that may be unavoidable because of the frame. You put a cheap guy like Tillman at the C on these guys with Wemby at PF, then you instantly defend them far better.

A player always gives something up which the opponent can attack. You just deal with it, right? But in the end, Wemby needs to stay in the same positions he's been occupying since early December for maximum efficacy. Call the other big what you will, but he still needs the range and mobility to play like the 4 while Wemby can keep doing what he's been doing these last 3 dozen games or so.

Wemby is far better at the 5 for stats and offensive efficiency, I can't disagree.

Who are these 4s that could play with Wemby better than Z Collins tried? Portis? PJ Washington?

[sikma42]

That's true, maybe a bigger 4 presence next to Wemby will help.

That would help. The Sheed to his Big Ben, so to speak.

Just the footwork, his slim legs are easier to get a foot behind and once they have that then his slim body is easy to pivot around. I just noticed that it's going to be an ongoing issue that may be unavoidable because of the frame. You put a cheap guy like Tillman at the C on these guys with Wemby at PF, then you instantly defend them far better.

A player always gives something up which the opponent can attack. You just deal with it, right? But in the end, Wemby needs to stay in the same positions he's been occupying since early December for maximum efficacy. Call the other big what you will, but he still needs the range and mobility to play like the 4 while Wemby can keep doing what he's been doing these last 3 dozen games or so.

Wemby is far better at the 5 for stats and offensive efficiency, I can't disagree.

Who are these 4s that could play with Wemby better than Z Collins tried? Portis? PJ Washington?

I don’t think we know enough about Wemby’s final body composition to say he will forever struggle with Sengun. He’s going to get a lot stronger and will learn how to better position himself against Sengun. I wouldn’t be surprised if things look a lot different next year due to better technique and added strength. V

They will definitely need an upgrade at 4, the current guy isn’t an NBA starter. Someone like Aaron Gordon or Naz Reid would be great.


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[tsherkin]

Wemby is far better at the 5 for stats and offensive efficiency, I can't disagree.

Who are these 4s that could play with Wemby better than Z Collins tried? Portis? PJ Washington?

The whole roster needs to be upgraded, Wemby aside, heh. But yeah, I mean, that's the next journey.

[tmorgan]

I don’t know why I keep wanting to donate Pistons to Wembanyama (I guess it’s because we suck anyway and VW is so fun to watch), but I feel like Stewart might be a good fit next to him.

[Yoshun]

He also had 7 blocks in the Houston game....

40% shooting (2/5 3P, 2/5 2P), 6 turnovers, 4 fouls, only 10 points. It was a rough one.

He rebounded well. 11 in 30 minutes was nice. The blocks were nice. But it's okay to acknowledge the rough spots in a game.

Absolutely, but even through a bad game he was able to rebound well and block a pretty good number of shots. Hopefully the Spurs get this kid a team.

[tsherkin]

Absolutely, but even through a bad game he was able to rebound well and block a pretty good number of shots. Hopefully the Spurs get this kid a team.

Indeed. He's a rook, but he already contributes a lot, even with basically nothing around him. What he can do with a year in the league and an even slightly improved team will prove interesting, for sure.

[OriAr]

I am concerned as well.
Concerned that he is gonna make ridiculous stat lines look pedestrian soon enough.
Concerned when it's all said and done, he'll be the undisputable GOAT who'll never be suppressed the same way Gretzky is in hockey.
Plenty to be concerned about with Victor.

[LoveMyRaps]

I'm concerned.

For the rest of the league.

[LoveMyRaps]

I am concerned as well.
Concerned that he is gonna make ridiculous stat lines look pedestrian soon enough.
Concerned when it's all said and done, he'll be the undisputable GOAT who'll never be suppressed the same way Gretzky is in hockey.
Plenty to be concerned about with Victor.

Calm down.

[azcatz11]

I'm concerned.

For the rest of the league.

I'm concerned

About what I'm having for lunch today

[OriAr]

I'm concerned.

For the rest of the league.

I'm concerned

About what I'm having for lunch today

Can't go wrong with a Philly Cheesesteak if you ask me.

[cpower]

he is great, but probably wont become MVP candidate until his offense improves dramatically

[Uncle Mxy]

he is great, but probably wont become MVP candidate until his offense improves dramatically

I'm concerned that you're being too kind. He's impotent. IM-PO-TENT! At best, he's the 4th best scorer on a good team. He's too skinny to be a blocker or real defensive presence. The Spurs should trade him to Detroit for their high 2nd round pick if they know what's good for them. (Sorry Pop, but no team would give up a 1st round pick for him in the shape he's in.) The Pistons wild be giving you a gift here. Compensate for your loss by taking another Frenchman in Killian Hayes.

[zimpy27]

he is great, but probably wont become MVP candidate until his offense improves dramatically

I'm not sure about that. If his team was a top 4 team right now and he had played at C all season then he's definitely an MVP candidate already.