AD..availability, market value, offers

[Wolveswin]

OKC with an offer of Giddey, #11 (Houston), OKC's best 2025 FRP, Miami 2025 FRP, lottery protected in 2025 if it doesn't convey in 2025 it is unprotected in 2026, OKC's best 2026 FRP and OKC's best 2027 pick.

You would need to find a 3rd team. None of this benefits James…errr Lakers. Picks package just doesn’t work.

…volunteering “best pick” 3 drafts in a row on top of a lottery pick, another first and Giddey.. that’s a lot of actual value. That’s pretty crazy that OKC could legally do that trade with cap.

But LAL should be able to flip for Lauri or any star with that package.. that’s on OKC to figure out though I think.

No offense AD, I think OKC would rather have Markkanen direct

[TimeisIllmatic]

What about Memphis with a starting package of:

#7 2024
Santi Aldama
Ziare Williams
Kennard
Clarke

I'd have to imagine the Lakers would start with Bane at the minimum which therefore would make any hypothetical trade with MEM impossible.

[gswhoops]

What about Memphis with a starting package of:

#7 2024
Santi Aldama
Ziare Williams
Kennard
Clarke

I'd have to imagine the Lakers would start with Bane at the minimum which therefore would make any hypothetical trade with MEM impossible.

Yeah. LA isn’t trading AD for a rebuilding package.

[jbk1234]

Mitchell+Allen for Davis+JHS

This is only fair if Mitchell doesn't extend and is considered expiring.

I'd pass either way.

[PistolPeteJR]

You would need to find a 3rd team. None of this benefits James…errr Lakers. Picks package just doesn’t work.

…volunteering “best pick” 3 drafts in a row on top of a lottery pick, another first and Giddey.. that’s a lot of actual value. That’s pretty crazy that OKC could legally do that trade with cap.

But LAL should be able to flip for Lauri or any star with that package.. that’s on OKC to figure out though I think.

No offense AD, I think OKC would rather have Markkanen direct

I doubt that. OKC needs defense and size inside. AD at the 5 with Chet at the 4 would be nasty. They don't need more scoring, and in any case, AD gives them that to an extent anyway.

[frozt]

You would need to find a 3rd team. None of this benefits James…errr Lakers. Picks package just doesn’t work.

…volunteering “best pick” 3 drafts in a row on top of a lottery pick, another first and Giddey.. that’s a lot of actual value. That’s pretty crazy that OKC could legally do that trade with cap.

But LAL should be able to flip for Lauri or any star with that package.. that’s on OKC to figure out though I think.

No offense AD, I think OKC would rather have Markkanen direct

You have to be kidding me with that. OKC's perfect target should be Anthony Davis, I can't think of a better fit or trade partner for that team. AD just seems like the missing piece for a young team coming into their own looking to be a title contender. He solves most of their issues.

[Wolveswin]

…volunteering “best pick” 3 drafts in a row on top of a lottery pick, another first and Giddey.. that’s a lot of actual value. That’s pretty crazy that OKC could legally do that trade with cap.

But LAL should be able to flip for Lauri or any star with that package.. that’s on OKC to figure out though I think.

No offense AD, I think OKC would rather have Markkanen direct

You have to be kidding me with that. OKC's perfect target should be Anthony Davis, I can't think of a better fit or trade partner for that team. AD just seems like the missing piece for a young team coming into their own looking to be a title contender. He solves most of their issues.

Greet problem for Presti to have. He can shop for either - or both players. But if choosing, the less expensive, younger, arguably just as good or better fit for their team is always a good choice. AD is 1.5x his age in actual NBA age, brings a whole different culture fit than Markkanen, and doesn’t have to deal with everything AD brings to table for a young team.

[brackdan70]

Really interesting question. The Lakers no longer seem like contenders and AD is owed a ton of money through Age 35. For his career he has averaged 60 games played, though has been very available this year at 71 games played. His value is as a win now top tier player that may only have 2-3 good years left but gets paid a lot for 4 years.
I would guess the lakers try to add around him and Lebron to put together another contender but if that doesn’t materialize it would be smart to look at offers. I think I would be looking for a younger player that is starter level with all star upside, a useful player as contract filler, and a pick that has lottery potential.

[brackdan70]

You would need to find a 3rd team. None of this benefits James…errr Lakers. Picks package just doesn’t work.

…volunteering “best pick” 3 drafts in a row on top of a lottery pick, another first and Giddey.. that’s a lot of actual value. That’s pretty crazy that OKC could legally do that trade with cap.

But LAL should be able to flip for Lauri or any star with that package.. that’s on OKC to figure out though I think.

No offense AD, I think OKC would rather have Markkanen direct

AD has a lot more direct positive impact than Markkanen…though AD likely only has a couple years left at his current level and a huge contract. Hard to say but if I am OKC I want a banner rather than a long window of conference finals appearances and I’d go for AD.

[brackdan70]

What about Memphis with a starting package of:

#7 2024
Santi Aldama
Ziare Williams
Kennard
Clarke

I think it takes more than that. Those are a bunch of ok pieces but need to add a good piece with lots of upside. 2024 draft is not good. In a normal draft that 7 pick might fit the bill.

[Domejandro]

Karl-Anthony Towns as a starting point (obviously shuffle around with additional value or a third team as needed).

Mike Conley /
Anthony Edwards / Nickeil Alexander-Walker / Jaylen Clark
Jaden McDaniels / Josh Minott / Wendell Moore Jr.
Anthony Davis / Leonard Miller
Rudy Gobert / Naz Reid /

Free Agents: Monte Morris, Jordan McLaughlin, Kyle Anderson, Luka Garza, TJ Warren, and Daishen Nix

Defensive line-up:
Nickeil Alexander-Walker / Anthony Edwards / Jaden McDaniels / Anthony Davis / Rudy Gobert

Personally, I do not see any reason for the Los Angeles Lakers to trade Anthony Davis (I think it would be incredibly foolish), but that swap at least offers the Lakers a perennial All-Star in return while making them younger by 2-3 years. Potentially could recycle the additional value + their own picks for other players.

[jayjaysee]

…volunteering “best pick” 3 drafts in a row on top of a lottery pick, another first and Giddey.. that’s a lot of actual value. That’s pretty crazy that OKC could legally do that trade with cap.

But LAL should be able to flip for Lauri or any star with that package.. that’s on OKC to figure out though I think.

No offense AD, I think OKC would rather have Markkanen direct

AD has a lot more direct positive impact than Markkanen…though AD likely only has a couple years left at his current level and a huge contract. Hard to say but if I am OKC I want a banner rather than a long window of conference finals appearances and I’d go for AD.

Yeah. I’m taking AD over Lauri for OKC. But either one would be really exciting for the fan base. I just agree with you. Take the better player and try and win a title while enjoying being under the tax for two full seasons.

Also - OKC has the assets to push in for AD now and still be able to add a star in 3-4 years if neither of Chet/Jalen develop into a true secondary star and AD walks in free agency / has declined out of stardom after this contract.

[louc1970]

If Mitchell resigns with Cleveland, I see Allen/Garland to Cleveland for Davis/Russell.
Could add Strus/LaVert and Vincent in depending vaules.

Garland/Allen give LA 2 young players that do not disrupt the current team balance. Garland/Reaves/James/Vando (Rui)/Allen. For LA, Garland and Allen are locked in for the near future. When James dos retire or moves on, Lakers still have youth to build around.

Cleveland on the other hand (if Mitchell will resign), Mitchell/Russell/Okoro/Mobley/Davis. As Mobley gains size, he and Davis become interchangeable at the 4/5.

Both teams are geared more to win now status.

[brackdan70]

If Mitchell resigns with Cleveland, I see Allen/Garland to Cleveland for Davis/Russell.
Could add Strus/LaVert and Vincent in depending vaules.

Garland/Allen give LA 2 young players that do not disrupt the current team balance. Garland/Reaves/James/Vando (Rui)/Allen. For LA, Garland and Allen are locked in for the near future. When James dos retire or moves on, Lakers still have youth to build around.

Cleveland on the other hand (if Mitchell will resign), Mitchell/Russell/Okoro/Mobley/Davis. As Mobley gains size, he and Davis become interchangeable at the 4/5.

Both teams are geared more to win now status.

Hmm that is interesting. I think if Strus and a couple off picks are included LA would have a hard time saying no.
I like it for Cleveland as a move to take the next step toward contention…it tightens the window though but gives them a better chance.

[Wolveswin]

Gobert + Reid

FOR

AD + Rui

Who says no?

Towns or Davis
Davis or Towns
McDaniels
Edwards
Conley

Gobert
Reid
James
Reaves
???

[Colbinii]

What about Memphis with a starting package of:

#7 2024
Santi Aldama
Ziare Williams
Kennard
Clarke

Lol so you take off Bane, JJJ and Ja--3 players clearly worse than AD, why?

[Colbinii]

Gobert + Reid

FOR

AD + Rui

Who says no?

Towns or Davis
Davis or Towns
McDaniels
Edwards
Conley

Gobert
Reid
James
Reaves
???

Minnesota says no. You don't break up the title winners.

[Threezus]

LA supposedly wants Trae really badly and i would prefer AD to pair with Jalen and Murray. Im sure theirs a trade to be had somewhere in there if both teams end up wanting to try something different.

[esvl]

What about Memphis with a starting package of:

#7 2024
Santi Aldama
Ziare Williams
Kennard
Clarke

Lol so you take off Bane, JJJ and Ja--3 players clearly worse than AD, why?

Because I want 4 stars, not 3.

[drchaos]

Not sure who would be coughing up how many draft picks but the salaries seem to work on this one:

Nets give: Mikal Bridges & DFS
Nets get: Lauri & DeAngelo Russell

Jazz give: Lauri, Sexton & Collins
Jazz get: AD, DFS & Vanderbilt

Lakers give: AD, DeAngelo Russell & Vanderbilt
Lakers get: Mikal Bridges, Sexton & Collins

Why for Nets? Lauri is a good long term piece to build around and Russell coming home solves their point guard problem

Why for Jazz? Get the best player in the deal and DFS on a cap friendly contract (I think they would be getting draft picks as well)

Why for Lakers? Given AD's injury history getting three players of this caliber isn't bad

Thoughts?