ozwizard8 wrote:Archx wrote:ozwizard8 wrote:This is a very casual fan mindset. Maxi Kleber is not a scorer. We do not expect him to be THJ either. His role is being a 3-pt threat. And occasionally making couple 3s. I dont care if he scores 5 ppg or 8 ppg. If he makes the 3-pt shots when its needed then that's a plus for role player.
Luka or Kyrie being +5 or -3 doesn't mean much. However, if you are +27 in a 6-pt game, then it shows you were not a negative. Some casual fans here don't know much about basketball and they think playing Kleber is not worth it because he only scored 5pts. Anyone understand basketball fundamentals would understand his role. Altough he is not doing as good as he used to be, yesterday night it helped the team.
A stretch 5 shooting like this, is not a stretch 5, it's really not hard to understand, not even to us casuals.
The main argument is +27 shows he was not a negative against Spurs. Who cares how many 3pt he made? Only casual fans.
It is a casual mindset. Even without scoring 40%, a stretch-5 still takes other teams big men outside of the paint. Maxi Kleber is not sagged off like D.Powell or Nurkic.
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We already acknowledge Maxi is not playing good this year. Not shooting good. So your picture is showing a below-average regular season shooting.
Maxi shot much better in last 2 playoffs. He was 40% and 44%. I am optimistic that he can ramp up. No one can not guarantee it.
You're confusing yourself with +/- arguments and then call other people casuals. Now that's a great paradox. I already gave the +/- answer to other poster, so i'm not going to repeat myself over and over.
But i'll say this gain, doesn't matter if Maxi shoots 80% from range, Nuggets didn't respect his role, Spurs didn't respect his role because he's not taking those open looks. That's not an asset for the playoffs it's the opposite. PJ and DJJ are already playing their roles better than Maxi but Kidd is not playing DJJ for some reason in the clutch.
I also showed NETrtg lineups for Mavs, best lineups don't include Maxi for a reason. If you go down by minutes. Those lineups are
Min 60 mins
K. Irving - D. Jones Jr. - P. Washington - L. Doncic - D. Gafford +25
Min 70 mins
K. Irving - P. Washington - L. Doncic - J. Green - D. Lively II +13
Min 80 mins
K. Irving - P. Washington - L. Doncic - J. Green - D. Lively II +13
These are the highest minutes played lineups for Mavs. And it's horrible how many lineup changes they already had.