NBA MVP Discussion Thread 2023-24 (Part 4: MVP Thread's Revenge)

MMyhre · Post #1461 » by **MMyhre** » Wed Mar 20, 2024 12:53 pm

Bob8 wrote:
MMyhre wrote:
Mavrelous wrote:Yes, let's judge a player by the worst shooting performance of his career, when he's leading the league in scoring on 107 TS+ while being the most double teamed player in the league by wide margin.

I don`t really mind him having an off game from the field, it`s just the fact that his stats are so inflated by his heliocentric volume, and the fact that he has 16 assists and yet takes 27 shots (6 more than Kyrie and NINETEEN more than the 3rd) while he is missing everything, surely there had to be some better shots he could create for others? This player is inflated, inflated stats and just heliocentric ugly basketball. And he can`t even get his body fat % down to make everything easier when he wants to play this me me me me style of basketball.

It`s ugly, I don`t care if he leads the NBA in everything, he is **** good but he has the ball ALL THE TIME, Jokic plays winning basketball, Luka plays me basketball and if we win it has to be by me, but I refuse to believe you can win a chip with this playstyle, at least not in the shape he is in.

Luka seems to be a complacent talent, and I don`t like that, so I will actively root against him until he starts looking at himself with a more open and critical mindset, he has all the tools to be an OMEGA-great all time NBA player, but he seems stubborn to me. I get the vibe that I don`t need to change anything because I am already great, you know? And that`s the wrong approach.

I'm sure Luka is reading you and is deeply concerned about you not liking him. Especially talking about how fat he's.

That's probably how he views stuff, and its keeping him from becoming better so I dont mind. You can send him a message to become his little yes princess.

Bob8 · Post #1462 » by **Bob8** » Wed Mar 20, 2024 12:58 pm

MMyhre wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
MMyhre wrote:I don`t really mind him having an off game from the field, it`s just the fact that his stats are so inflated by his heliocentric volume, and the fact that he has 16 assists and yet takes 27 shots (6 more than Kyrie and NINETEEN more than the 3rd) while he is missing everything, surely there had to be some better shots he could create for others? This player is inflated, inflated stats and just heliocentric ugly basketball. And he can`t even get his body fat % down to make everything easier when he wants to play this me me me me style of basketball.

It`s ugly, I don`t care if he leads the NBA in everything, he is **** good but he has the ball ALL THE TIME, Jokic plays winning basketball, Luka plays me basketball and if we win it has to be by me, but I refuse to believe you can win a chip with this playstyle, at least not in the shape he is in.

Luka seems to be a complacent talent, and I don`t like that, so I will actively root against him until he starts looking at himself with a more open and critical mindset, he has all the tools to be an OMEGA-great all time NBA player, but he seems stubborn to me. I get the vibe that I don`t need to change anything because I am already great, you know? And that`s the wrong approach.

I'm sure Luka is reading you and is deeply concerned about you not liking him. Especially talking about how fat he's.

That's probably how he views stuff, and its keeping him from becoming better so I dont mind. You can send him a message to become his little yes princess.

And your motivation for writing those hateful posts is to motivate him? :lol:

You would like that he uses his talent better? Why?

Jurassic_Park · Post #1463 » by **Jurassic_Park** » Wed Mar 20, 2024 1:31 pm

Giannis out tonight. Does not want the smoke. Duck duck goose

CharityStripe34 · Post #1464 » by **CharityStripe34** » Wed Mar 20, 2024 1:33 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:

Read on Twitter

Honestly, it would be hilarious if LeBron added some "salt and pepper" gray dye to his hair just for the memes. He should do it.

Post #1465 » by **Jamaaliver** » Wed Mar 20, 2024 1:34 pm

CharityStripe34 wrote:Honestly, it would be hilarious if LeBron added some "salt and pepper" gray dye to his hair just for the memes. He should do it.

Dude is like 5 years overdue to just shave his head completely bald...

Post #1466 » by **MoneyTalks41890** » Wed Mar 20, 2024 3:37 pm

Jurassic_Park wrote:Giannis out tonight. Does not want the smoke. Duck duck goose

Looking like a pond in here.

Post #1467 » by **MoneyTalks41890** » Wed Mar 20, 2024 3:37 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:
CharityStripe34 wrote:Honestly, it would be hilarious if LeBron added some "salt and pepper" gray dye to his hair just for the memes. He should do it.

Dude is like 5 years overdue to just shave his head completely bald...

Na he needs to go see Carlos Boozer's guy.

Special_Puppy · Post #1468 » by **Special_Puppy** » Wed Mar 20, 2024 6:39 pm

How many games do the Mavericks need to win for Luka to win MVP? Do they have to be within 5 games of the Thunder and Nuggets?

Johnny Firpo · Post #1469 » by **Johnny Firpo** » Wed Mar 20, 2024 6:59 pm

Special_Puppy wrote:How many games do the Mavericks need to win for Luka to win MVP? Do they have to be within 5 games of the Thunder and Nuggets?

Not sure it would be enough if they'd win out.

AleksandarN · Post #1470 » by **AleksandarN** » Wed Mar 20, 2024 7:19 pm

Johnny Firpo wrote:
Special_Puppy wrote:How many games do the Mavericks need to win for Luka to win MVP? Do they have to be within 5 games of the Thunder and Nuggets?

Not sure it would be enough if they'd win out.

Denver has the second easiest strength of schedule left in the nba it will be hard

Wolfgang630 · Post #1471 » by **Wolfgang630** » Wed Mar 20, 2024 8:34 pm

Giannis not playing against Boston now. This really is a 2 man race with Luka being a very long shot away.

Petergrifindor · Post #1472 » by **Petergrifindor** » Wed Mar 20, 2024 10:16 pm

Johnny Firpo wrote:
Special_Puppy wrote:How many games do the Mavericks need to win for Luka to win MVP? Do they have to be within 5 games of the Thunder and Nuggets?

Not sure it would be enough if they'd win out.

There is not case to be made counting Mavs wins. That is going to be on the cons side of the argument for Doncic.

Luka's case is that that he has been the best player this season. And he has been.

Bob8 · Post #1473 » by **Bob8** » Wed Mar 20, 2024 10:52 pm

Johnny Firpo wrote:
Special_Puppy wrote:How many games do the Mavericks need to win for Luka to win MVP? Do they have to be within 5 games of the Thunder and Nuggets?

Not sure it would be enough if they'd win out.

I'm sure that not Luka and not Mavs fans would care about MVP, if they would win it out. Goal would be much bigger.

HotRocks34 · Post #1474 » by **HotRocks34** » Thu Mar 21, 2024 12:40 am

Odds coming into the Wed 3/20 games.

Special_Puppy · Post #1475 » by **Special_Puppy** » Thu Mar 21, 2024 3:59 am

Average MVP Odds according to Betting Markets with the Vig removed
Jokic 68%
SGA 17%
Luka 10%
Giannis 3%
Tatum 2%
Ant 0.7%

Gatorade Sax · Post #1476 » by **Gatorade Sax** » Thu Mar 21, 2024 6:42 am

Top 3 candidates all from the west is telling..playoffs should be very interesting this year.

QPR · Post #1477 » by **QPR** » Thu Mar 21, 2024 8:42 am

Petergrifindor wrote:Luka's case is that that he has been the best player this season. And he has been.

That's arguable.

Exp0sed · Post #1478 » by **Exp0sed** » Thu Mar 21, 2024 11:12 am

SGA had just +5 in a 12 point win with Chet, Giddey and J-Dub all with +27 or +28

where's the +- police? haha, they only come out for Luka I guess

Bob8 · Post #1479 » by **Bob8** » Thu Mar 21, 2024 4:10 pm

Exp0sed wrote:SGA had just +5 in a 12 point win with Chet, Giddey and J-Dub all with +27 or +28

where's the +- police? haha, they only come out for Luka I guess

Luka has since trade deadline + 19.8 on/off court net rtg. SGA since trade deadline + 12.4. And like we predicted the change in Luka's on/off came in defensive rating. It looks, strangely enough, that playing with rim protector and better defensive wing helps immensely with Luka's defensive rtg.

Mavs were 9.4 points worse in D, when he was off court. It seems that Luka became crucial defender for Mavs.

Disclaimer, I still believe that +/- is bull stat for measuring impact of the player.

CharityStripe34 · Post #1480 » by **CharityStripe34** » Thu Mar 21, 2024 7:04 pm

Wolfgang630 wrote:Giannis not playing against Boston now. This really is a 2 man race with Luka being a very long shot away.

He may still end up third if he has some big games down the stretch and the Bucks clinch the #2 seed.

Who is leading the race for MVP? (players listed in alphabetical order)