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Re: 2024 Draft Prospects 

Post#621 » by GoBobs » Thu Mar 21, 2024 3:59 pm

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SWedd523 wrote:Edey would be a great pick


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Re: 2024 Draft Prospects 

Post#622 » by GoBobs » Thu Mar 21, 2024 4:21 pm

Lets say we could get a 22 year old big Al in this draft. He is going to have some footspeed issues on defense, and you have to play some Alfense, but he is going to give you 16, 10, and 1.5 on a rookie scale contract for 5 years on very high efficiency.

That is worth the number 1 pick in this draft.

And it is even better when that guy is 7'4'' with a 7'10'' wingspan and 300 lb without being fat.
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Re: 2024 Draft Prospects 

Post#623 » by Bassman » Thu Mar 21, 2024 5:20 pm

GoBobs wrote:Lets say we could get a 22 year old big Al in this draft. He is going to have some footspeed issues on defense, and you have to play some Alfense, but he is going to give you 16, 10, and 1.5 on a rookie scale contract for 5 years on very high efficiency.

That is worth the number 1 pick in this draft.

And it is even better when that guy is 7'4'' with a 7'10'' wingspan and 300 lb without being fat.


Unless the NBA is committed to making radical changes in the current game (rumors out there to enhance the defense and inside game) Edey is just not quick enough to be a lottery pick IMO. And I’m a guy who loves old school 80’s power basketball. I’ve watched some Purdue BB and highlight footage to see if this guy could translate into league success. He’s tempting but he’s not Embid-like as a big. He’s got more strength right now than Mark Williams does pre-back injury. If we got a high enough pick that we could deal it and maybe a player for Portland’s projected 5th and 13th picks, then Edey at 13 “might”be a target. He’s currently mocked in the low to mid 20’s.
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Re: 2024 Draft Prospects 

Post#624 » by JustBuzzin » Thu Mar 21, 2024 5:33 pm

If we take Edey I might have a meltdown literally. In the 2nd round sure, but not with a top 10 pick.
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Re: 2024 Draft Prospects 

Post#625 » by JMAC3 » Thu Mar 21, 2024 5:51 pm

GoBobs wrote:Lets say we could get a 22 year old big Al in this draft. He is going to have some footspeed issues on defense, and you have to play some Alfense, but he is going to give you 16, 10, and 1.5 on a rookie scale contract for 5 years on very high efficiency.

That is worth the number 1 pick in this draft.

And it is even better when that guy is 7'4'' with a 7'10'' wingspan and 300 lb without being fat.


So you think everyone in the basketball industry is completely wrong on him? Him being a potential 2nd round pick isn't concerning to you at all? It is usually very bad business to take a senior in the lottery alone, let alone when they are this polarizing.

If you were trying to sell us on him as maybe the 20th best player then maybe I could see it, but you spamming he is the #1 pick/best player argument is just hard for me to take seriously.
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Re: 2024 Draft Prospects 

Post#626 » by JustBuzzin » Thu Mar 21, 2024 5:59 pm

I don't see any elite prospects in this draft. This is the draft where we truly need to take the best fit. All of the top prospects have had some bad games as of late Risacher/Cody both had stinkers.

Castle/Risacher are probably my top 2 as of now.
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Re: 2024 Draft Prospects 

Post#627 » by KingCat » Thu Mar 21, 2024 8:20 pm

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Re: 2024 Draft Prospects 

Post#628 » by GoBobs » Thu Mar 21, 2024 9:28 pm

JMAC3 wrote:
GoBobs wrote:Lets say we could get a 22 year old big Al in this draft. He is going to have some footspeed issues on defense, and you have to play some Alfense, but he is going to give you 16, 10, and 1.5 on a rookie scale contract for 5 years on very high efficiency.

That is worth the number 1 pick in this draft.

And it is even better when that guy is 7'4'' with a 7'10'' wingspan and 300 lb without being fat.


So you think everyone in the basketball industry is completely wrong on him? Him being a potential 2nd round pick isn't concerning to you at all? It is usually very bad business to take a senior in the lottery alone, let alone when they are this polarizing.

If you were trying to sell us on him as maybe the 20th best player then maybe I could see it, but you spamming he is the #1 pick/best player argument is just hard for me to take seriously.


That is because the perception is the senior is a finished product, and maybe there is not much room for growth. If the finished product is already good, this is not a concern. I would rather have a mature player that has already had some practice with how to handle having more money that he has ever had before. To many really young guys can be a problem if they are not mature.

I would just say, if you haven't watched many purdue games with Edey from start to finish, catch a couple in the tournament. Watch how physical he is, how he seeks out contact. Count how many times he moves his guy with a box out vs how many times he gets moved. Watch his facial expressions during the game and ask yourself if this guy looks like a gamer.
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Re: 2024 Draft Prospects 

Post#629 » by JMAC3 » Thu Mar 21, 2024 9:47 pm

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GoBobs wrote:Lets say we could get a 22 year old big Al in this draft. He is going to have some footspeed issues on defense, and you have to play some Alfense, but he is going to give you 16, 10, and 1.5 on a rookie scale contract for 5 years on very high efficiency.

That is worth the number 1 pick in this draft.

And it is even better when that guy is 7'4'' with a 7'10'' wingspan and 300 lb without being fat.


So you think everyone in the basketball industry is completely wrong on him? Him being a potential 2nd round pick isn't concerning to you at all? It is usually very bad business to take a senior in the lottery alone, let alone when they are this polarizing.

If you were trying to sell us on him as maybe the 20th best player then maybe I could see it, but you spamming he is the #1 pick/best player argument is just hard for me to take seriously.


That is because the perception is the senior is a finished product, and maybe there is not much room for growth. If the finished product is already good, this is not a concern. I would rather have a mature player that has already had some practice with how to handle having more money that he has ever had before. To many really young guys can be a problem if they are not mature.

I would just say, if you haven't watched many purdue games with Edey from start to finish, catch a couple in the tournament. Watch how physical he is, how he seeks out contact. Count how many times he moves his guy with a box out vs how many times he gets moved. Watch his facial expressions during the game and ask yourself if this guy looks like a gamer.


juniors/seniors to go in the top 10 picks since 2014
Davion Mitchell
Rui Hachimura
Mikal Bridges
Kris Dunn
Buddy Hield
Willy Cauley Stein
Frank Kaminsky
Elfrid Payton
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Re: 2024 Draft Prospects 

Post#630 » by JMAC3 » Thu Mar 21, 2024 9:48 pm

JMAC3 wrote:
juniors/seniors to go in the top 10 picks since 2014
Davion Mitchell
Rui Hachimura
Mikal Bridges
Kris Dunn
Buddy Hield
Willy Cauley Stein
Frank Kaminsky
Elfrid Payton


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Re: 2024 Draft Prospects 

Post#631 » by GoBobs » Thu Mar 21, 2024 10:17 pm

JMAC3 wrote:
JMAC3 wrote:
juniors/seniors to go in the top 10 picks since 2014
Davion Mitchell
Rui Hachimura
Mikal Bridges
Kris Dunn
Buddy Hield
Willy Cauley Stein
Frank Kaminsky
Elfrid Payton


Zero Allstars


Well you have Trace Jackson Davis and Jamie Jaquez Jr that likely go a lot higher in a redraft of last year.

Then you have Lillard who just missed your 2014 cutoff but is probably the best example of somebody coming out as a senior and being an allstar.
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Re: 2024 Draft Prospects 

Post#632 » by GoBobs » Thu Mar 21, 2024 10:18 pm

Also Dean on draft had Edey 20 overall last year when he was ESPN #58. He did a nice writeup on him if you are interested to read it.
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Re: 2024 Draft Prospects 

Post#633 » by Liver_Pooty » Fri Mar 22, 2024 1:22 am

Reed is my number 1, or was. He has been absolutely pathetic tonight, and they may just lose to Oakland
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Re: 2024 Draft Prospects 

Post#634 » by Snidely FC » Fri Mar 22, 2024 1:45 am

Welp so much for Reed and Dillingham. Yikes
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Re: 2024 Draft Prospects 

Post#635 » by Liver_Pooty » Fri Mar 22, 2024 1:52 am

Snidely FC wrote:Welp so much for Reed and Dillingham. Yikes


Eh, I don't judge much off of the ncaa tournament. **** gets wild and they're kids. Have to judge the season from a totality. It definitely has to hurt their stock though.
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Re: 2024 Draft Prospects 

Post#636 » by JDR720 » Fri Mar 22, 2024 1:59 am

Dillingham, Reed and Cody Williams (Colorado St.) were awful. Williams put up 0's. Reed just made a single shot. And Dillingham was 2-9.
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Re: 2024 Draft Prospects 

Post#637 » by Snidely FC » Fri Mar 22, 2024 2:00 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:
Snidely FC wrote:Welp so much for Reed and Dillingham. Yikes


Eh, I don't judge much off of the ncaa tournament. **** gets wild and they're kids. Have to judge the season from a totality. It definitely has to hurt their stock though.

was looking forward to watching them in a few more live games
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Re: 2024 Draft Prospects 

Post#638 » by JDR720 » Fri Mar 22, 2024 2:02 am

HornetJail wrote:
SWedd523 wrote:Edey would be a great pick


in 1999

Did someone say 1999?

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I keep forgetting Mitch is a former player.
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Re: 2024 Draft Prospects 

Post#639 » by Bassman » Fri Mar 22, 2024 2:33 am

JDR720 wrote:Dillingham, Reed and Cody Williams (Colorado St.) were awful. Williams put up 0's. Reed just made a single shot. And Dillingham was 2-9.


And I think it IS important to gauge young players on how they are handling intensity, pressure and “prove it” games. None of those you mentioned strike me as ready for top 5 selection, especially after how they’re performing in tournaments.
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Re: 2024 Draft Prospects 

Post#640 » by Diop » Fri Mar 22, 2024 2:46 am

JDR720 wrote:
HornetJail wrote:
SWedd523 wrote:Edey would be a great pick


in 1999

Did someone say 1999?

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I keep forgetting Mitch is a former player.

I just watched Winning Time and it covers when he starts at the Lakers, he was overpaid and averaged about 35 games a season over 5 years. Remind you of someone???
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