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Post#1081 » by ciueli » Sat Mar 23, 2024 6:07 pm

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Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:Just because he's a traditional C, doesn't mean he's not the best big in the draft. The real question is how a traditional C like this impacts today's game.

He'd automatically fix our half court offense.
I guess look at Deandre Ayton in Portland.

I guess is his 71% FT's going to trend up towards 80% as he develops or stay around 65% as there is more wear and tear with the NBA.

Poeltl was around a 65% FT shooter at Utah but is now a 55% FT shooter. :banghead:

Edey's a monster, he's in a different class. He's a legit 7'4" 300lbs, that's insanely big. If he stays healthy, who's going to defend him?

Stretch 5's can't handle that, he's almost a return to the old paradigm of "bigger is better".


The better question is who is he going to defend, not who is going to defend him. Is he defending guards on switches? Is he coming out to contest the three point shot of stretch centres? He won't be able to play like he does in college where he stands in the paint all day and lets the other team shoot completely uncontested shots.

Realistically, he's Boban Marjanović at the next level, a guy who is a lightly used 3rd centre on any team he plays for. In fact, he might not even be as good a Boban, becuase Boban actually can shoot decent percentages from midrange and I haven't seen Edey do anything like that yet.
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Post#1082 » by Yallbecrazy » Sat Mar 23, 2024 6:10 pm

Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:
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Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:Just because he's a traditional C, doesn't mean he's not the best big in the draft. The real question is how a traditional C like this impacts today's game.

He'd automatically fix our half court offense.
I guess look at Deandre Ayton in Portland.

I guess is his 71% FT's going to trend up towards 80% as he develops or stay around 65% as there is more wear and tear with the NBA.

Poeltl was around a 65% FT shooter at Utah but is now a 55% FT shooter. :banghead:

Edey's a monster, he's in a different class. He's a legit 7'4" 300lbs, that's insanely big. If he stays healthy, who's going to defend him?

Stretch 5's can't handle that, he's almost a return to the old paradigm of "bigger is better".


Edey has struggled prior to this year vs guys who were also large (6'11+) and 240+. I haven't watched him a lot this year, but the NBA is filled with those guys and there aren't many in NCAA
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Post#1083 » by ItsDanger » Sat Mar 23, 2024 6:21 pm

Edey has had one game with FG% <44% in last 2 seasons, the 1st game in 22/23 season. You're not going to dominate every game. He's rarely struggled against anyone in college, it's the double/triple teams that can cause issues at times. The difference in NBA is the players are stronger, much more experienced defensively, way better help defenses (I think this part will be the biggest hurdle).
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Post#1084 » by Psubs » Sat Mar 23, 2024 6:24 pm

The way the offense is structured, need a big that can do everything. Pick n Pop, Pick n Roll and pass well from the top. I guess someone like Olynyk.

Poeltl trade was dumb. Maybe New Orleans being on win now, they trade #24, Larry Nance for Poeltl and future 2nd pick? Then draft Ware at #17 and Tyler Smith at #24?
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Post#1085 » by Psubs » Sat Mar 23, 2024 6:25 pm

ItsDanger wrote:Edey has had one game with FG% <44% in last 2 seasons, the 1st game in 22/23 season. You're not going to dominate every game. He's rarely struggled against anyone in college, it's the double/triple teams that can cause issues at times. The difference in NBA is the players are stronger, much more experienced defensively, way better help defenses (I think this part will be the biggest hurdle).


Trayce Jackson-Davis is only like 6'9 and outplayed Edey head to head last season.

In the right situation he can carve out a 10 year career playing 24 mpg.

Washington has the #25 pick from the Clippers and just need talent right now. He might start for them. They should draft Topic or Reed Sheppard.

PG Topic - Shamet
SG Coulibaly - Poole - Davis
SF Avdija - Kispert
PF Kuzma - Bagley
C Edey - Tristan Vukcevic

Topic and Vukcevic are both Serbian. Would the Raptors draft Topic as Darko is also Serbian?
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Post#1086 » by ItsDanger » Sat Mar 23, 2024 6:28 pm

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ItsDanger wrote:Edey has had one game with FG% <44% in last 2 seasons, the 1st game in 22/23 season. You're not going to dominate every game. He's rarely struggled against anyone in college, it's the double/triple teams that can cause issues at times. The difference in NBA is the players are stronger, much more experienced defensively, way better help defenses (I think this part will be the biggest hurdle).


Trayce Jackson-Davis is only like 6'9 and outplayed Edey head to head last season.

Edey averaged 29.5 PPG, 17 RPG, 2.5 BPG in those matchups. Indiana outplayed Purdue would be more accurate.
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Post#1087 » by LoveMyRaps » Sat Mar 23, 2024 6:30 pm

Gradey Dick would easily be a top 5 pick in this years draft.

Gradey > Reed
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Post#1088 » by Psubs » Sat Mar 23, 2024 6:34 pm

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ItsDanger wrote:Edey has had one game with FG% <44% in last 2 seasons, the 1st game in 22/23 season. You're not going to dominate every game. He's rarely struggled against anyone in college, it's the double/triple teams that can cause issues at times. The difference in NBA is the players are stronger, much more experienced defensively, way better help defenses (I think this part will be the biggest hurdle).


Trayce Jackson-Davis is only like 6'9 and outplayed Edey head to head last season.

Edey averaged 29.5 PPG, 17 RPG, 2.5 BPG in those matchups. Indiana outplayed Purdue would be more accurate.


Must've been Jalen Hood-Schifino... :lol:
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Post#1089 » by REJECTEDBYCLARK » Sat Mar 23, 2024 6:55 pm

I think the question everyone should be asking when drafting is what is the formula to dethrone Wembanyama down the line and is the player you are drafting capable of being part of it.
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Post#1090 » by ItsDanger » Sat Mar 23, 2024 7:00 pm

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Trayce Jackson-Davis is only like 6'9 and outplayed Edey head to head last season.

Edey averaged 29.5 PPG, 17 RPG, 2.5 BPG in those matchups. Indiana outplayed Purdue would be more accurate.


Must've been Jalen Hood-Schifino... :lol:

One game it was him, guys will get hot occasionally. Its smarter to build your team for a 7 game series than trying to win every single game.
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Post#1091 » by ATLTimekeeper » Sat Mar 23, 2024 7:39 pm

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Psubs wrote: I guess look at Deandre Ayton in Portland.

I guess is his 71% FT's going to trend up towards 80% as he develops or stay around 65% as there is more wear and tear with the NBA.

Poeltl was around a 65% FT shooter at Utah but is now a 55% FT shooter. :banghead:

Edey's a monster, he's in a different class. He's a legit 7'4" 300lbs, that's insanely big. If he stays healthy, who's going to defend him?

Stretch 5's can't handle that, he's almost a return to the old paradigm of "bigger is better".


The 90's basketball fan in me would love to have a dominant low post big on the team. I'm just concerned about how he'll be used, can we avoid him being pick and rolled to death, will he be durable?

At 31, or if we can package to get 25-28 before Denver picks - he's a no brainer to pickup. I just think we should swing for higher potential with the Pacers pick because we lack talent.


If we had a higher value pick like kept our top 6, then durability should be a major factor. With a lower value pick, like the Indy pick, durability doesn't have to factor. In terms of higher potential, it's obviously debatable what constitutes high potential, but I would argue that he's in rare company in college. If his game fully translates, he's a superstar in the NBA. If his game partially translates, he's a solid rotation player, which is decent value for anything >15. To me it's a no brainer for the Indy pick. There's too much potential gain for very little risk. With a higher value pick (like #6) there's going to be some all-star choices, some near-star choices and solid starter choices and so the risk isn't worth it to me.

This has nothing to do with 90s basketball. Immobile bigs are at the top of the food chain in the NBA right now.
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Post#1092 » by LoveMyRaps » Sat Mar 23, 2024 7:43 pm

Furphy, Gradey, and Ochai off the bench next season? SIGN ME UP.

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Post#1093 » by Psubs » Sat Mar 23, 2024 8:12 pm

REJECTEDBYCLARK wrote:I think the question everyone should be asking when drafting is what is the formula to dethrone Wembanyama down the line and is the player you are drafting capable of being part of it.


Gotta deal with Chet and Wemby. Can Tyler Smith stay with them? It may take 3-4 years but is Ivisic able to guard them?
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Post#1094 » by Syd-TK3 » Sat Mar 23, 2024 8:14 pm

LoveMyRaps wrote:Gradey Dick would easily be a top 5 pick in this years draft.

Gradey > Reed

Reed ended the season horribly but college gradey is not a better prospect then him imo
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Post#1095 » by LoveMyRaps » Sat Mar 23, 2024 8:25 pm

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LoveMyRaps wrote:Gradey Dick would easily be a top 5 pick in this years draft.

Gradey > Reed

Reed ended the season horribly but college gradey is not a better prospect then him imo


Gradey's size and athleticism favors him.

Reed might struggle against the physicality in the NBA. Could see him being Pritchard 2.0
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Post#1096 » by ill-Will03 » Sat Mar 23, 2024 8:28 pm

LoveMyRaps wrote:
Syd-TK3 wrote:
LoveMyRaps wrote:Gradey Dick would easily be a top 5 pick in this years draft.

Gradey > Reed

Reed ended the season horribly but college gradey is not a better prospect then him imo


Gradey's size and athleticism favors him.

Reed might struggle against the physicality in the NBA. Could see him being Pritchard 2.0


Kinda OT but I would love to have Pritchard on the raps. I feel there’s untapped potential there with him. When given the minutes he’s performed well, especially these last few games with Tatum out he’s put up good numbers on efficient shooting.
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Post#1097 » by BoyzNTheHood » Sat Mar 23, 2024 9:36 pm

Read on Twitter
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deeps6x wrote:I guarantee you that (Jaylen) Brown and (Kris) Dunn are drafted OUT of the top 5.
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Post#1098 » by BoyzNTheHood » Sat Mar 23, 2024 10:48 pm

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deeps6x wrote:I guarantee you that (Jaylen) Brown and (Kris) Dunn are drafted OUT of the top 5.
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Post#1099 » by REJECTEDBYCLARK » Sat Mar 23, 2024 11:03 pm

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Things like this make me buy into Castle. Also him dropping a ton of points on Duncanville and owning Holland in high school. Let's see how the tournament plays out but Castle is one of those gut feeling players who you just need to trust your gut on him because you're not gonna see what you want to see on paper or on film, due in part as Hurley says to UConn's system. Castle was a one man show in HS who shot 11.6 threes per 36. The fact he is indeed so coachable and willing to completely adapt his game to have an impact on a winning program speaks volumes. The ability (discipline and intelligence) to adapt to different situations is a great trait to have.

I mentioned a while back I was concerned over a long stretch of games where Castle didn't have a single steal, but then realized that it must be primarily due to the discipline which Hurley is demanding Castle play with. Castle averaged 5 stocks a game in HS and learning how to play controlled defense like he is at UConn is going to help him a ton going forward I believe. I'll use the term again, Castle is a leap of faith prospect. There's something special about him IMO, it just seems like he's a guy with winning embedded in his DNA. It's hard to come to that conclusion because players in his mold bust so often but it just seems like there's something about him. It's great to hear about the work ethic because that is precisely what he needs in order to take his game to the next level and actually reward those who believe in him as a player.
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Post#1100 » by nivisi9 » Sat Mar 23, 2024 11:58 pm

I'm really hoping for a dream draft here...

lottery luck pick 1: Risacher

Pacers pick: Keyshawn George

Detroit pick: Tyler Kolek

additional pick trade: Edey or Ulrich

Risacher/ George deadly high ceiling, super long, 2-way, wings who can shoot that we can build around

Kolek + Edey to form an elite bench with Dick, George, ++

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