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2023-2024 Regular Season Game 71: Sacramento Kings (40-29) at Orlando Magic (42-28) - 7pm

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Re: 2023-2024 Regular Season Game 71: Sacramento Kings (40-29) at Orlando Magic (42-28) - 7pm 

Post#561 » by fateis007 » Sun Mar 24, 2024 1:49 am

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davey_wavy wrote:Me as a youth basketball coach with 2 sec remaining: set a screen and curl to the basket so inbounder can hit you going to the basket for a quick 2, foul, or maybe if your lucky a and-1

Mosley, NBA head coach: throw it to Paolo at mid court and chuck a 3



That was probably not the play call, something broke down or they didn’t execute.


The entire last minute was a 3 point fest, besides Cole's highly contested layups.

If you're shooting 27% on the night, in 1 point games, why are we not driving?
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Re: 2023-2024 Regular Season Game 71: Sacramento Kings (40-29) at Orlando Magic (42-28) - 7pm 

Post#562 » by Knightro » Sun Mar 24, 2024 1:50 am

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davey_wavy wrote:Me as a youth basketball coach with 2 sec remaining: set a screen and curl to the basket so inbounder can hit you going to the basket for a quick 2, foul, or maybe if your lucky a and-1

Mosley, NBA head coach: throw it to Paolo at mid court and chuck a 3



That was probably not the play call, something broke down or they didn’t execute.


Suggs fell down trying to screen Ellis. That for sure happened.

I *think* Isaac was also late trying to screen Fox and ended up not getting to the spot in time, although I'm less certain about this one.

If either one of the screens are made successfully, Paolo has a much easier look in theory.

I suppose Ingles could have held the ball one beat longer and thrown a skip pass to Suggs who ended up being wide open in the corner after Ellis left him.
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Re: 2023-2024 Regular Season Game 71: Sacramento Kings (40-29) at Orlando Magic (42-28) - 7pm 

Post#563 » by eyriq » Sun Mar 24, 2024 1:51 am

I think they just beat us. To be honest with you, I don't have any real good excuses
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Re: 2023-2024 Regular Season Game 71: Sacramento Kings (40-29) at Orlando Magic (42-28) - 7pm 

Post#564 » by basketballRob » Sun Mar 24, 2024 1:51 am

It was a good game to get us ready for the playoffs. The Kings have a few teams' numbers. I believe they've beat Minnesota twice in Minnesota and Dallas nearly every time they play.

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Post#565 » by SOUL » Sun Mar 24, 2024 1:52 am

MagicMatic wrote:Never Moselys fault for 1000 Alex.


There could've been a better play, of course - but if the play you ran didn't work because one person slipped and the other had to adlib something, then obviously then obviously there are more factors at play.

Or, you know, we could simply hit more open outside shots like the Kings did. It's unfortunate but was basically the reason they hung around.
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Post#566 » by thelead » Sun Mar 24, 2024 1:52 am

eyriq wrote:I think they just beat us. To be honest with you, I don't have any real good excuses

Poor shooting and:
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Post#567 » by basketballRob » Sun Mar 24, 2024 1:54 am

We have to be quicker to go to Goga if Wendell has a bad matchup. I still think Hartenstein, Turner, and Jarrett Allen are all bad matchups for Wendell.

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Post#568 » by thelead » Sun Mar 24, 2024 1:55 am

We have a solution for WCJ poor play. Mosley has even played Goga in second half of games on rare occasions when he's done with WCJ's sulking.

We don't have a solution for Franz' inability to shoot right now. He's doing everything else fairly well but it's 2024... you can't be shooting under 30% consistently as a starting SF.
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Post#569 » by SOUL » Sun Mar 24, 2024 1:57 am

fateis007 wrote:If you're shooting 27% on the night, in 1 point games, why are we not driving?


They did though.

Franz drove and scored.
Cole drove and scored.
Suggs drove the next play and had three people collapse in the paint, Cole open, miss (it's a good shot)
We got the rebound, Franz decides to shoot a three (this isn't a "set" play, this has to do with player IQ at this point)
Cole drives and misses
Last play got blown up/last second crappy three

So 4/6 plays with drives in them, one was an open drive and kick three, the Franz three is bad, and the result of the last play obviously not good.
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Post#570 » by JF5 » Sun Mar 24, 2024 1:57 am

basketballRob wrote:We have to be quicker to go to Goga if Wendell has a bad matchup. I still think Hertenstein, Turner, and Jarrett Allen are all bad matchups for Wendell.

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Wendell actually played pretty well defensively. There wasn't a point in the matchup where Sabonis was killing him. It was just offensively he was absolutely atrocious and wasn't even looking to shoot with him missing easy ones at point blank range
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Re: 2023-2024 Regular Season Game 71: Sacramento Kings (40-29) at Orlando Magic (42-28) - 7pm 

Post#571 » by Knightro » Sun Mar 24, 2024 1:57 am

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I am pretty sure it was supposed to be a triple screen for Paolo on a curl and two of the screens failed.

Screen 1: Franz screens Sabonis which forces Fox to switch onto Paolo - SUCCESS
Screen 2: Suggs screens Ellis, which doesn't allow him to double the catch - FAIL (Suggs falls down)
Screen 3: Isaac fake posts up Barnes, then screens Fox as Paolo drives left on a curl against a flat footed Barnes - FAIL (Isaac doesn't get to Fox in time)
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Post#572 » by basketballRob » Sun Mar 24, 2024 1:59 am

thelead wrote:We have a solution for WCJ poor play. Mosley has even played Goga in second half of games on rare occasions when he's done with WCJ's sulking.

We don't have a solution for Franz' inability to shoot right now. He's doing everything else fairly well but it's 2024... you can't be shooting under 30% consistently as a starting SF.
I've calculated in my head a few times, and Goga gives us a couple more possessions than Wendell and probably around 2 more ppg. He gets more offensive rebounds and blocks shots. Wendell hits some shots, but other players can do that if he isn't in the game.

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Post#573 » by dsg2021 » Sun Mar 24, 2024 1:59 am

ibraheim718 wrote:If the play at the end of the game was designed to be a catch and skip then the play stunk. With 2.1 on the clock you have time for 1 dribble and a shot. I'd prefer a catch and shoot. Down screen for Suggs and either a deep 3 or a lob to the screener.

Agreed, this was also botched too much. Suggs is actually good with high speed catch and shoot 3's. JI was the tallest and longest 3 point shooter on the court too. Didn't love that Ingles was passing it in either, instead of posting up three feet behind the 3 pt line. There had to have been a screen play too, somewhere.
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Re: 2023-2024 Regular Season Game 71: Sacramento Kings (40-29) at Orlando Magic (42-28) - 7pm 

Post#574 » by CocoaFan » Sun Mar 24, 2024 2:00 am

Knightro wrote:
Optimus_Steel wrote:
davey_wavy wrote:Me as a youth basketball coach with 2 sec remaining: set a screen and curl to the basket so inbounder can hit you going to the basket for a quick 2, foul, or maybe if your lucky a and-1

Mosley, NBA head coach: throw it to Paolo at mid court and chuck a 3



That was probably not the play call, something broke down or they didn’t execute.


Suggs fell down trying to screen Ellis. That for sure happened.

I *think* Isaac was also late trying to screen Fox and ended up not getting to the spot in time, although I'm less certain about this one.

If either one of the screens are made successfully, Paolo has a much easier look in theory.

I suppose Ingles could have held the ball one beat longer and thrown a skip pass to Suggs who ended up being wide open in the corner after Ellis left him.
Mose just explained on TV it was a double screen with Suggs and Isaac set up for Paolo to curl toward the basket but Sac did a good job coming around and pushing Paolo further out than they wanted.

On another note Brian Hill named Cole his Brian's Baller of the game. Clueless
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Post#575 » by Optimus_Steel » Sun Mar 24, 2024 2:00 am

fateis007 wrote:
Optimus_Steel wrote:
davey_wavy wrote:Me as a youth basketball coach with 2 sec remaining: set a screen and curl to the basket so inbounder can hit you going to the basket for a quick 2, foul, or maybe if your lucky a and-1

Mosley, NBA head coach: throw it to Paolo at mid court and chuck a 3



That was probably not the play call, something broke down or they didn’t execute.


The entire last minute was a 3 point fest, besides Cole's highly contested layups.

If you're shooting 27% on the night, in 1 point games, why are we not driving?




That’s a young team making bad decisions, rushing due to not much late game experience vs good teams.
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Re: 2023-2024 Regular Season Game 71: Sacramento Kings (40-29) at Orlando Magic (42-28) - 7pm 

Post#576 » by Knightro » Sun Mar 24, 2024 2:03 am

CocoaFan wrote:Mose just explained on TV it was a double screen with Suggs and Isaac set up for Paolo to curl toward the basket but Sac did a good job coming around and pushing Paolo further out than they wanted.s


I rewatched it about 10 times and the bit about Paolo getting "pushed out further than we wanted" is pretty much bogus because Paolo never got touched once.

Unless he's referring to the fact that Isaac never actually screened Fox at all. In that case then yes, Paolo caught the ball in a place they didn't want.
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Re: 2023-2024 Regular Season Game 71: Sacramento Kings (40-29) at Orlando Magic (42-28) - 7pm 

Post#577 » by dsg2021 » Sun Mar 24, 2024 2:03 am

fateis007 wrote:That call at the end as insanely bad.

Mosley in the final minute was terrible. (we needed a 2, and wtf was that?)

But we basically lost this game the same way we lost to Miami and Knicks last game. They zoned us all game and dared us to shoot, and we shot 35, 3's at 27%.

True, good recap in a nutshell.
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Re: 2023-2024 Regular Season Game 71: Sacramento Kings (40-29) at Orlando Magic (42-28) - 7pm 

Post#578 » by SOUL » Sun Mar 24, 2024 2:03 am

Whatever, regroup and beat the Warriors. They'll be on a back to back. I'll be annoyed if the Warriors drop games against every team we need them to beat and then beat us on a B2B.

Starters were just bad, especially WCJ. Franz can't hit threes unless it's a step back contested three, Suggs had an off night, hopefully Gary can give it a go next game.
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Re: 2023-2024 Regular Season Game 71: Sacramento Kings (40-29) at Orlando Magic (42-28) - 7pm 

Post#579 » by basketballRob » Sun Mar 24, 2024 2:08 am

Isaac's advanced stats are pretty elite. He's having the best season of his career. 53/39/73 I did predict that he'd shoot 50/40/90 when he came back.

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Post#580 » by CocoaFan » Sun Mar 24, 2024 2:09 am

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fendilim wrote:Its amazing how Franz has been bad this year. Even his drive attempts seems less.
He's really not been himself since the all-star game. He's not as aggressive. I think his 3 ball is really getting into his head.
I think they tinkered with his release, trying to make it quicker.

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I wish they would tinker with his arch. That flatter shot has a lower probability of going in. Maybe Paolo can get his agent to help him.

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