buzzkilloton wrote:theBigLip wrote:buzzkilloton wrote:Weaver is stubborn on holding prospects he believes in. We surely need to shake up this up though I agree.
Bey got traded out. Hayes got dumped (although a little late). Bagley and Livers traded out. The only one extended is Stewart, and next up Wiseman, Fontecchio and Cade. Seems about right to me.
Yeah Bey got traded when his value tanked and he told the FO how much he wanted on his next contract. We traded him for Wiseman who was a prospect that Weaver believed in. The same with Bagley a prospect that Weaver believed in and tried trading for multiple times who he also way overpaid. Weaver is stubborn with prospects he likes even after seeing them fail he goes after them.
Hayes was dumped way way to late. Livers should of been off the team early he never showed nothing. The FO kept trying to talk Livers up like he was some kinda 3+D player that should start. I've got no faith in Troy to make aggressive moves and move guys before their value is tanked.
Honestly I'm not sure why you consistently defend Weaver. The product on the court is terrible. Their was a point in time where some fans here compared our roster in a thread to OKC,Hou,and Orl and people thought we had betteer stuff then Orl and Hou now we have been way passed by them. We have a "core 4" that fits so bad even the biggest Pistons media shill James Edwards is writing articles about how its not going to work. Were literally set up to be in a position to have to tank for lotto picks for another few seasons after all this time.
I guess I defend Weaver because I think we’re in the final stage of the rebuild.
I agree we have mismatched pieces. If we had some lottery luck, we could have Chet, Wemby, Paolo, etc. it’s really not Weaver’s fault that we got stuck w Ausar and Ivey.
Regardless, we are where we are. Some of our core are not true starters. If we get a couple of solid established players this summer, that should be the missing pieces. They are most likely going to have to be part of a trade.
Cade/Sassar
???/Ivey/Grimes
???/Fontecchio/Risacher(?)
???/Thompson
Duren/Stewart/Wiseman
Can we replace those ??? With real players this summer? If so, that lineup looks ok to me. And this is the $60-70M question. So for me, Weaver’s grade is still incomplete.