DOT wrote:Capn'O wrote:Who are these coaches constantly beating teams with more talent in the playoffs?Spoiler:
Didn't somebody beat that 2011 Heat team that people keep swearing nobody could beat?
If we get the Pacers in R1 who you got?
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DOT wrote:Capn'O wrote:Who are these coaches constantly beating teams with more talent in the playoffs?Spoiler:
Didn't somebody beat that 2011 Heat team that people keep swearing nobody could beat?
Capn'O wrote:DOT wrote:Capn'O wrote:Who are these coaches constantly beating teams with more talent in the playoffs?Spoiler:
Didn't somebody beat that 2011 Heat team that people keep swearing nobody could beat?
If we get the Pacers in R1 who you got?
DOT wrote:knicks94 wrote:DOT wrote:Why is this always the excuse?
"Wah, Thibs had to play good teams Wah"
You're always gonna have to play great teams in the playoffs. He's beaten 1 team in the postseason with a record over 50 wins, and that was last year
If you're telling me the only way for Thibs to win in the playoffs is to avoid great teams, then he's not a great coach. It's that simple. You need to beat teams better than you, Thibs hasn't shown he can get his teams to do that.
What team in the East was going to beat that Miami Heat team? The Bulls sure weren't going to get passed them with D.Rose as their only superstar. The reason why Dallas and San Antonio were able to beat them was because each of them had multiple Hall of Famers on their roster.
And as far as Thibs' run with the Knicks, it wasn't his fault that Julius Randle doesn't show up in the playoffs and that the Knicks had no depth when they lost to Atlanta in 2021.
What is Thibs' most impressive series win as a coach in the playoffs?
Seriously, it's last year vs the Cavs (only time in his career he's beaten a team with more than 50 wins)
People talk about how his overall record in the playoffs is 31-41. His record against teams with winning records is 21-34. A .381 winning percentage against teams with winning records in the playoffs (not including 2012 because Rose got hurt, so I'm being generous here). 3 total series wins vs teams with winning records
This is the guy y'all are claiming is an elite coach who's "basically won everything you possibly can"?
DOT wrote:Capn'O wrote:DOT wrote:Didn't somebody beat that 2011 Heat team that people keep swearing nobody could beat?
If we get the Pacers in R1 who you got?
Would depend on how healthy the team is
Full health, I think they're a favorable matchup for us with the way Haliburton's playing. If he gets back to form it would be roughly even talent wise and would come down to the coaches
Miami would beat us, of course, because while Spo and Thibs are equally elite coaches, the Heat roster is just so much more talented. I mean, after all, it has to be, since Spo and Thibs are equals, if they beat us last year it has to be off the talent disparity.
knicks94 wrote:How many elite coaches were able to have success with the limited talent that Thibs had?
Capn'O wrote:Who are these coaches constantly beating teams with more talent in the playoffs?Spoiler:
DOT wrote:knicks94 wrote:How many elite coaches were able to have success with the limited talent that Thibs had?
Got it, so when we lose in the 2nd round again, it will be because there's no talent on this team
Just making sure we have that saved for future reference in case someone wants to say this is a good team and Brunson is an MVP caliber player.
Capn'O wrote:DOT wrote:knicks94 wrote:How many elite coaches were able to have success with the limited talent that Thibs had?
Got it, so when we lose in the 2nd round again, it will be because there's no talent on this team
Just making sure we have that saved for future reference in case someone wants to say this is a good team and Brunson is an MVP caliber player.
So, in essence, what you are doing here is straight trolling.
DOT wrote:knicks94 wrote:How many elite coaches were able to have success with the limited talent that Thibs had?
Got it, so when we lose in the 2nd round again, it will be because there's no talent on this team
Just making sure we have that saved for future reference in case someone wants to say this is a good team and Brunson is an MVP caliber player.
DOT wrote:Capn'O wrote:DOT wrote:Got it, so when we lose in the 2nd round again, it will be because there's no talent on this team
Just making sure we have that saved for future reference in case someone wants to say this is a good team and Brunson is an MVP caliber player.
So, in essence, what you are doing here is straight trolling.
I'm expressing my frustration at the fact that as long as we have Thibs, our ceiling will be capped at the 2nd round and we are gonna waste Brunson's prime instead of doing what needs to be done in order to win a championship.
knicks94 wrote:DOT wrote:knicks94 wrote:How many elite coaches were able to have success with the limited talent that Thibs had?
Got it, so when we lose in the 2nd round again, it will be because there's no talent on this team
Just making sure we have that saved for future reference in case someone wants to say this is a good team and Brunson is an MVP caliber player.
Well either three things can happen if the Knicks reach the second round:
1. They get eliminated because they won't be fully healthy.
2. They lose to a more talented team or talented coach.
3. They somehow find a way to win the series and make it to the conference finals.
It is very likely that the first two outcomes happen due to the fact that it is highly likely that Randle and OG won't be 100 percent by then or that they run into Boston, Milwaukee or Miami.
If the Knicks do not make it to the third round it will have very little to do with Thibs being an incompetent coach.
DOT wrote:Knicksfan1992 wrote:I see were doing the whole gotcha on semantics bit today. That's always a fun person to have around!
Again the poster who calls everyone under the sun a troll who doesn't agree with their opinions is now coming in and being the antagonist troll in a thread they had no business being in in the first place...
Again we're the feral ones!
Someone's mad Daddy Thibs is being criticized
DOT wrote:The last thing I'm gonna say
DOT wrote:The last thing I'm gonna say
Thibs has faced 5 teams in the playoffs who had between 42 and 50 wins. Good, not great regular season teams
He's 2-3 in those series as a coach. Not talking about the Heatles or the Harden Rockets or the LeBron Cavs, but regular ass playoff teams. Those 2 wins came in 2011 and 2013, so one he needed MVP Rose for. Last year was the first time since 2013 he beat a team in the playoffs who had a winning record
That isn't a great coach. But whatever, y'all can drink the Kool-Aid if you want, I've seen people simping over Mark Jackson because he has this legend about him same as Thibs which doesn't match the results.
knicks94 wrote:DOT wrote:knicks94 wrote:How many elite coaches were able to have success with the limited talent that Thibs had?
Got it, so when we lose in the 2nd round again, it will be because there's no talent on this team
Just making sure we have that saved for future reference in case someone wants to say this is a good team and Brunson is an MVP caliber player.
Well either three things can happen if the Knicks reach the second round:
1. They get eliminated because they won't be fully healthy.
2. They lose to a more talented team or talented coach.
3. They somehow find a way to win the series and make it to the conference finals.
It is very likely that the first two outcomes happen due to the fact that it is highly likely that Randle and OG won't be 100 percent by then or that they run into Boston, Milwaukee or Miami.
If the Knicks do not make it to the third round it will have very little to do with Thibs being an incompetent coach.