Jontay Porter betting on himself

[scrabbarista]

They’re going to come hard on him. Could possibly be a false flag situation also to deter others from gambling.

I expect nothing less than a year suspension and he’s going to be black balled

I don't know whether it's a false flag, but this is definitely a situation like with PED's: scrubs gets punished, stars get scrubbed.

Financially it doesn’t make sense for stars to do this.

It doesn't make sense to do what?

Get money?

[scrabbarista]

I don't know whether it's a false flag, but this is definitely a situation like with PED's: scrubs gets punished, stars get scrubbed.

Financially it doesn’t make sense for stars to do this.

It doesn't make sense to do what?

Get money?

Look, it doesn't have to make sense.

If Porter did this, did it make sense for him to do it?

The idea that only people below a certain income level would try to get more money is just false.

It is true, on the other hand, that people above a certain income level (or social status) have ways of getting away with things.

[Kurtz]

Even us Raptors fans where scratching our heads when he left the game. We're trying to find video footage of this incident even happening.

I hate to say it, as he was showing some potential as a floor spacer and passing ability, but all signs are pointing to that he did it... especially when the same scenario happened twice.

I have to think... where there other people in on this? (If the facts are true)

They would have to be. All of the betting sites ask for your ID/financial info in order to sign up, so he'd have to have used an intermediary.

The sites would also keep a special eye/set limits on player prop bets of this nature so the amount bet would at most have been in the 1000s or at most 10s of thousands which makes it all the more ridiculous that he'd risk everything for such a relatively small payday.

That's the thing. He probably thought he's too small a fish in a huge pond and could sneak through. Oof...

Ironically, it's the exact opposite. Big bets on obscure players and events/sports are under the most scrutiny by these sites.

[Kurtz]

Financially it doesn’t make sense for stars to do this.

It doesn't make sense to do what?

Get money?

Look, it doesn't have to make sense.

If Porter did this, did it make sense for him to do it?

The idea that only people below a certain income level would try to get more money is just false.

It is true, on the other hand, that people above a certain income level (or social status) have ways of getting away with things.

I know I'm trippin' a little bit, but are you arguing with yourself?

[GrandTheftRondo]

I don't know whether it's a false flag, but this is definitely a situation like with PED's: scrubs gets punished, stars get scrubbed.

Financially it doesn’t make sense for stars to do this.

It doesn't make sense to do what?

Get money?

Guys winning a few thousand dollars and jeopardising tens of millions of dollars on contracts and potentially permanently jeopardising their career.

As far as I know the betting companies don’t allow you to bet huge amounts on player props so how on earth is the payoff for a star player worth it?

For some low level guy the money makes some sense.

And despite what people say betting companies and the NBA are absolutely keeping an eye on betting patterns. Sure people could get someone to do it on their behalf etc, but alarms will trigger when there’s heavy action on some random as player prop and they will investigate.

[scrabbarista]

It doesn't make sense to do what?

Get money?

Look, it doesn't have to make sense.

If Porter did this, did it make sense for him to do it?

The idea that only people below a certain income level would try to get more money is just false.

It is true, on the other hand, that people above a certain income level (or social status) have ways of getting away with things.

I know I'm trippin' a little bit, but are you arguing with yourself?

I was elaborating.

[Kurtz]

Look, it doesn't have to make sense.

If Porter did this, did it make sense for him to do it?

The idea that only people below a certain income level would try to get more money is just false.

It is true, on the other hand, that people above a certain income level (or social status) have ways of getting away with things.

I know I'm trippin' a little bit, but are you arguing with yourself?

I was elaborating.

Ah gotcha, say no more!

[disoblige]

I have a theory. May be he learn this from a friend or brother lol. They weren’t caught because they were big fishes and wouldn’t look suspicious.

[sp6r=underrated]

Everyone's spent so much time speculating about officials, but there are a lot more players than officials and they have a much stronger impact on the game...especially when we're talking about their own stats.

We don't know if he's guilty, but to me, rotation players who aren't making crazy money have the highest potential to impact the integrity of the game via gambling.

I don't know much about tennis but this article on tennis match fixing backs up your point. The players who fixed matches were low ranked. I think the real risk of significant point shaving will occur in mid-major basketball games where the players are mostly unpaid but a significant amount of money is being bet.

Take the conference tournaments that just happened a week ago. A ton of money was bet on games in which most of the player had no NIL money.

https://www.npr.org/2023/09/10/1198675541/over-180-professional-tennis-players-participated-in-a-global-match-fixing-ring

[DCasey91]

Betting on himself is so stupid. Every sportsmen bets don’t have to make it that obvious.

[DCasey91]

Everyone's spent so much time speculating about officials, but there are a lot more players than officials and they have a much stronger impact on the game...especially when we're talking about their own stats.

We don't know if he's guilty, but to me, rotation players who aren't making crazy money have the highest potential to impact the integrity of the game via gambling.

I don't know much about tennis but this article on tennis match fixing backs up your point. The players who fixed matches were low ranked. I think the real risk of significant point shaving will occur in mid-major basketball games where the players are mostly unpaid but a significant amount of money is being bet.

Take the conference tournaments that just happened a week ago. A ton of money was bet on games in which most of the player had no NIL money.

https://www.npr.org/2023/09/10/1198675541/over-180-professional-tennis-players-participated-in-a-global-match-fixing-ring

I was indirectly involved in it, I’ll keep it short. It was fukn scary overall. It was bang on whatever the bet was it paid out over 95% of the time 67/70 all day everyday.

Watching live I couldn’t believe how random the bets were it wasn’t even though watching it you could think that

1000% NBA is prime picking for fixing among players. Any sport in reality.

[LeBronSpaghetti]

It’s sad how many people in this thread, or really any conversation now about sports betting, say stuff like “Everyone is doing it” or “No surprise, they’re all betting”. The constant bombardment of sports betting ads has clearly worked and made many of you think it’s normal and far more ubiquitous than it is. This attitude is bad because it further normalizes something that shouldn’t be seen as normal or good.

[Pattycakes]

They’re going to come hard on him. Could possibly be a false flag situation also to deter others from gambling.

I expect nothing less than a year suspension and he’s going to be black balled

Dang man. Respect the critical thinking skills. Very decent possibility

[scrabbarista]

Everyone's spent so much time speculating about officials, but there are a lot more players than officials and they have a much stronger impact on the game...especially when we're talking about their own stats.

We don't know if he's guilty, but to me, rotation players who aren't making crazy money have the highest potential to impact the integrity of the game via gambling.

I don't know much about tennis but this article on tennis match fixing backs up your point. The players who fixed matches were low ranked. I think the real risk of significant point shaving will occur in mid-major basketball games where the players are mostly unpaid but a significant amount of money is being bet.

Take the conference tournaments that just happened a week ago. A ton of money was bet on games in which most of the player had no NIL money.

https://www.npr.org/2023/09/10/1198675541/over-180-professional-tennis-players-participated-in-a-global-match-fixing-ring

It began in 2014 and became a story about six months ago. EDIT: It lasted until 2018. Still, my point stands.

People thinking fixed sporting events would be self-evident to everyone watching: nothing could be further from the truth.

[sp6r=underrated]

This gets more stupid every time I think about it. When Porter and/or whoever he's collaborating with saw that their prop bet was the biggest moneymaker on Draftkings...how and why did they let that happen again, with the same sportsbook?

We know a lot of money was wagered, but these had to have been a few large wagers as opposed to many smaller ones. This isn't a big enough operation to have hundreds of dummy accounts set up to run these through. And if it was, that would take a lot of work by people who really knew what they were doing, which the bad actors here did not.

Either Porter got a couple of rich buddies to place bets on these props, some dumb rich guy approached Porter and paid him to have him ensure the unders, or Porter owed a debt and this was his way out, with the orchestrators somehow ensuring they'd get their money.

Can't wrap my head around this situation.

To give Porter the benefit of the doubt. There is the possibility of randomness. A couple of rich Raptors fans bet on him for some reason and he got a fluke injury. Bookmakers didn't like losing $$ so they bitched to the league to complain.

Not saying that is one happened or that it is the most likely possibility. But it isn't a non-existent chance either.

[Sofia]

It doesn't make sense to do what?

Get money?

Look, it doesn't have to make sense.

If Porter did this, did it make sense for him to do it?

The idea that only people below a certain income level would try to get more money is just false.

It is true, on the other hand, that people above a certain income level (or social status) have ways of getting away with things.

I know I'm trippin' a little bit, but are you arguing with yourself?

Man is backing himself, Porter should take some tips.

[G R E Y]

They would have to be. All of the betting sites ask for your ID/financial info in order to sign up, so he'd have to have used an intermediary.

The sites would also keep a special eye/set limits on player prop bets of this nature so the amount bet would at most have been in the 1000s or at most 10s of thousands which makes it all the more ridiculous that he'd risk everything for such a relatively small payday.

That's the thing. He probably thought he's too small a fish in a huge pond and could sneak through. Oof...

Ironically, it's the exact opposite. Big bets on obscure players and events/sports are under the most scrutiny by these sites.

Hmm ok I didn't realize it was big bets, just thought that there were a series of very specific ones that created a pattern that alerted the powers that be.

But in the case you cite that's even more dumb...

There's a lot more info that has to come to light.

[GrandTheftRondo]

It’s sad how many people in this thread, or really any conversation now about sports betting, say stuff like “Everyone is doing it” or “No surprise, they’re all betting”. The constant bombardment of sports betting ads has clearly worked and made many of you think it’s normal and far more ubiquitous than it is. This attitude is bad because it further normalizes something that shouldn’t be seen as normal or good.

It also shows a level of ignorance as to how gambling companies work.

They do not like winners.

The implication that they are going to willingly watch a heap of people win money and do nothing on some really random over/unders market because of some player fixing matches is ridiculous.

They will investigate. As will other agencies that are informed about this betting plunge.

I swear people are being brainwashed to think these companies are their friendly neighbourhood pal or something.

[sp6r=underrated]

It’s sad how many people in this thread, or really any conversation now about sports betting, say stuff like “Everyone is doing it” or “No surprise, they’re all betting”. The constant bombardment of sports betting ads has clearly worked and made many of you think it’s normal and far more ubiquitous than it is. This attitude is bad because it further normalizes something that shouldn’t be seen as normal or good.

It also shows a level of ignorance as to how gambling companies work.

They do not like winners.

The implication that they are going to willingly watch a heap of people win money and do nothing on some really random over/unders market because of some player fixing matches is ridiculous.

They will investigate. As will other agencies that are informed about this betting plunge.

I swear people are being brainwashed to think these companies are their friendly neighbourhood pal or something.

Correct and if you are the rare customer who actually wins games fairly they stop taking your business or set significantly lower caps on what you can bet.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2022/11/17/betting-limits-draft-kings-betmgm-caesars-circa/


Their business model is entirely based around creating addicts and then bankrupting them

Wagner tweeted a screenshot of his $50,000 winning ticket, and the official DraftKings account retweeted it with the caption, “BEAU KNOWS BETTING.”

A printout of the tweet hangs on Wagner’s wall. But his appreciation for DraftKings quickly gave way to resentment. A day after his bet, Wagner discovered DraftKings wouldn’t let him wager more than $100 on an NBA game. A few days later, he tried to place another prop bet through the online sportsbook and wasn’t allowed to put down more than $3.63.

“The major problem I have is that DraftKings used my ticket to make it seem like you can win big, just like they do in their commercials,” Wagner said. “You promote my tweet, and literally the next morning I’m limited.”

FanDuel, the leading U.S. sportsbook, calls itself an entertainment company. DraftKings CEO Jason Robins caused a stir among serious bettors last year by declaring: “This is an entertainment activity. People who are doing this for profit are not the players we want.” The not-so-subtle implication: The company is only interested in losers.

[disoblige]

I get it. I just don't find it funny when someone's career is on the line and there's zero evidence of his having done anything wrong other than an eye injury and a sickness.

But we're cool, I hope. Nothing personal.

Jontay history.

| Date | Injury/Reason | Status | Analysis |

| March 24, 2024 | Personal | Remains out for Monday | Porter has been ruled out for Monday's game against the Nets due to personal reasons. |
| March 23, 2024 | Personal | Won't play Saturday | Porter is out for Saturday's game versus the Wizards due to personal reasons. |
| March 20, 2024 | Illness | Leaves early with illness | Porter won't return to Wednesday's game against the Kings due to an illness. |
| February 14, 2024 | Ankle | Doubtful for Wednesday | Porter is doubtful for Wednesday's game against the Pacers with a right ankle sprain. |
| February 9, 2024 | Back | Gets 11 minutes in return | Porter tallied seven points, three rebounds, and one steal across 11 minutes. |
| February 7, 2024 | Back | Officially out | Porter (back) has been ruled out for Wednesday's game against the Hornets. |
| February 7, 2024 | Back | Downgraded to doubtful | Porter (back) is now listed as doubtful for Wednesday's game versus the Hornets. |
| February 5, 2024 | Back | Ruled out for Monday | Porter (back) has been ruled out for Monday's game against the Pelicans. |
| February 3, 2024 | Back | Out again Sunday | Porter (back) will not play in Sunday's game against the Thunder. |
| February 2, 2024 | Back | Ruled out for Friday's game | Porter (back) has been ruled out for Friday's game against the Rockets. |
| February 1, 2024 | Back | Unlikely to play Friday | Porter (back) is doubtful for Friday's game versus the Rockets. |
| January 30, 2024 | Back | Exits with back spasms | Porter won't return to Tuesday's game against the Bulls due to back spasms. |
| January 26, 2024 | Eye | Exits with eye injury | Porter won't return to Friday's game against the Clippers due to an eye issue. |

Read on Twitter

He is making min. He probably has money problems or wants more money.

Read on Twitter

Somebody poke his eyes on Jan. One week after, the medical staff cleared him and then left the game and said it is still bothering him .

A) Dude had multiple major surgeries in college and his bro has had a massive injury history, too. Missing games for injury isn't proof of anything.

B) Those last two "personal reasons" are probably because he's under investigation.

C) Playing the stock market does not make him guilty any more than banking in a three-pointer does.

His locker was empty ahead of Monday’s game against the Nets

Guilty, now stop your denial.