General Blue Jays Thread: 2024 Season
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So, who are we thinking gets DFA'ed off the 40-man to make room for Voglebach?
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I'm surprised Davis Schneider made it. He was one of the few disappointments of the blue jays spring training bats.
Are Clement and Lukes for real??
Are Clement and Lukes for real??
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Why is Vladdy so obese
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VanWest82 wrote:I'm surprised Davis Schneider made it. He was one of the few disappointments of the blue jays spring training bats.
Are Clement and Lukes for real??
Schneider plays in both the infield and outfield, and has a bat that will hopefully wake up. I think it's the right place for him to start, but nobody thinks that the spot is his guaranteed for the year.
Clement seems to have figured things out. Not sure about Lukes.
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VanWest82 wrote:I'm surprised Davis Schneider made it. He was one of the few disappointments of the blue jays spring training bats.
Are Clement and Lukes for real??
Sadly for us (because practically our entire team crushed it in ST), ST numbers effectively don't matter at all. Davis needed to be on the team after last season.
We'll find out soon enough on Clement but he couldn't be much worse than Espinal.
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sounds like service clock manipulation for another year of bean counting (super 2)
sounds like service clock manipulation for another year of bean counting (super 2)
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DelAbbot wrote:?s=20
sounds like service clock manipulation for another year of bean counting (super 2)
Rodriguez was signed to a 5 year free agent contract for 32 million. He isn't subject to service clock.
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bluerap23 wrote:DelAbbot wrote:?s=20
sounds like service clock manipulation for another year of bean counting (super 2)
Rodriguez was signed to a 5 year free agent contract for 32 million. He isn't subject to service clock.
After these 5 years on his contract, he will be eligible for 1 year of arbitration. But if he stays in the minors for 20 days, then he will be eligible for 2 years of arbitration - taking him to age 34. It's all upside, no downside to this delayed clock.
Source: someone has just been playing OOTP24
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DelAbbot wrote:bluerap23 wrote:DelAbbot wrote:?s=20
sounds like service clock manipulation for another year of bean counting (super 2)
Rodriguez was signed to a 5 year free agent contract for 32 million. He isn't subject to service clock.
After these 5 years on his contract, he will be eligible for 1 year of arbitration. But if he stays in the minors for 20 days, then he will be eligible for 2 years of arbitration - taking him to age 34. It's all upside, no downside to this delayed clock.
Source: someone has just been playing OOTP24
I was wondering why they wouldn't put him on the roster (when scrubs like Parsons have found their way on it) and that explains that.
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The Jays can option Yariel without his approval in 2024. They cannot do that in 2025-beyond. So that, along with not being stretched out, is likely why he is starting in the minors. He's also a FA after his contract is up regardless of service time (like Gurriel was) so manipulation isn't happening here.
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Michael Bradley wrote:The Jays can option Yariel without his approval in 2024. They cannot do that in 2025-beyond. So that, along with not being stretched out, is likely why he is starting in the minors. He's also a FA after his contract is up regardless of service time (like Gurriel was) so manipulation isn't happening here.
That's not true. Every player's (including international FAs) service time is entirely determined by the # days he played in the MLB, not his contract.
There is no need for approval from your employee. Service clock manipulation has been done by teams on much better and readier prospects
https://www.news10.com/sports/cubs-3b-bryant-no-hard-feelings-on-losing-grievance/
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DelAbbot wrote:Michael Bradley wrote:The Jays can option Yariel without his approval in 2024. They cannot do that in 2025-beyond. So that, along with not being stretched out, is likely why he is starting in the minors. He's also a FA after his contract is up regardless of service time (like Gurriel was) so manipulation isn't happening here.
That's not true. Every player's (including international FAs) service time is entirely determined by the # days he played in the MLB, not his contract.
There is no need for approval from your employee. Service clock manipulation has been done by teams on much better and readier prospects
https://www.news10.com/sports/cubs-3b-bryant-no-hard-feelings-on-losing-grievance/
FWIW, Sportrac has him as a UFA at the end of his contract. https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/toronto-blue-jays/yariel-rodriguez-87490/
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DelAbbot wrote:Michael Bradley wrote:The Jays can option Yariel without his approval in 2024. They cannot do that in 2025-beyond. So that, along with not being stretched out, is likely why he is starting in the minors. He's also a FA after his contract is up regardless of service time (like Gurriel was) so manipulation isn't happening here.
That's not true. Every player's (including international FAs) service time is entirely determined by the # days he played in the MLB, not his contract.
There is no need for approval from your employee. Service clock manipulation has been done by teams on much better and readier prospects
https://www.news10.com/sports/cubs-3b-bryant-no-hard-feelings-on-losing-grievance/
That rule doesn't apply to international players who sign big league contracts. Most (if not all) international big league signings nowadays have the provision that the player can be a FA after the contract ends. Gurriel for example had 5 years of service time after 2023 but was still allowed to be a FA because his 7 year deal with the Jays was over. Rodriguez has the same type of contract. The type of manipulation you are referring to is done to prospects that were drafted or were international (non-MLB contract) signings.
This is from Shi Davidi last month: "His $32-million, five-year contract allows the Blue Jays to option him without his approval this season only (he’ll also be a free agent once the deal expires), an inclusion that demonstrates the need for flexibility with him."
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