Scase wrote:TheGeneral99 wrote:Scase wrote:Yeah, lets give Masai the credit for Lowry, Demar, JV, and Ross....oh wait, what's that? Colangelo drafted or traded for all those players?
Maybe you should take a hot minute and read the posts people are responding to instead of off the cuff responses. I was directly commenting on how Nurse was not given players worth developing while he was HC, not that Masai is incapable of finding good players.
You people are so desperate to defend Masai you can't even read, this is hilarious.
Colangelo developed those players?
Last time I checked Colangelo was fired in 2013.
Demar and Lowry made significant improvements yearly under Masai.
Remember that Masai gave up a lot to get Kawhi and Gasol...that included two 1st round picks, Demar, Poeltl, JV and Delon which was amazing in the short-term but impacted us long-term. We didn't have any 1st round picks in 2019 and 2020 because of the championship run.
Since the chip Masai has only had 2 lottery picks: Scottie and Gradey. Scottie was arguably the best pick of his draft and Gradey looks promising for a rookie despite a slow start.
His other picks were 59, 29, 59, 46 and 47. Yeah those didn't pan out but 95% of 2nd round picks don't pan out, lol.
Colangelo acquired those players who were worth developing. And again, none of this matters since I was talking about the teams provided to Nurse as a head coach.
Dennis specifically said that Masai and Bobby were unhappy with NURSE not developing players, so I said they never gave him players worth developing. You're just bringing up stuff that is entirely unrelated to the convo you replied to.
Lol what?
You could argue that Colangelo actually almost stifled Demar and Lowry's progression because he brought in Rudy Gay in 2013. That of course was corrected by Masai who bolstered our bench by trading Gay early in the 2013-2014 season, giving the roster some serious depth and allowing Lowry+Demar to shine.
And if you want to go down that rabbit hole...Bargnani wasn't well developed, he dropped PJ Tucker prematurely, and traded away our 1st round picks in 2007 and 2008. Just awful.
Under Colangelo the Raptors were a perennial lottery team, winning 20-30 games a year, getting lottery picks every year. Demar was a good pick, Ed Davis was a meh pick, and JV was a good pick although he missed out on Klay and Kawhi. Anyways, these players didn't really develop under Colangelo, it was under Masai that Demar emerged as an all-star and Lowry as well. JV and Lowry only played 1 season under Colangelo.