GT: New York Knicks at Toronto Raptors at 7:30pm on Wednesday, 3/27/24 - BIG MEECH RETURN, RJ and IQ out.
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Re: GT: New York Knicks at Toronto Raptors at 7:30pm on Wednesday, 3/27/24 - Bruson vs IQ?
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Re: GT: New York Knicks at Toronto Raptors at 7:30pm on Wednesday, 3/27/24 - Bruson vs IQ?
Great to have Mitch return. He’s obviously a huge upgrade over Jericho, and Precious may see his time cut a bit too.
I still see posters thinking he’s a better defender than Isaiah though, when basically no numbers support that. Mitch also gets a lot of his offensive boards because he just stands next to the basket on offense clogging the lane, since he cant do anything else. People don’t seem to mention that enough. He’s the best in the league at it sure, but it comes at a cost.
Isaiah was playing hurt for over a month, but he’s been great again lately. When he’s at this level he’s a clearly superior player to Mitch, who is very good himself.
We just need to keep Isaiah’s minutes at 28 mpg or so, and that’s where Mitch comes in with the other 20, basically flipping the minutes they used to have.
Some posters dont want to accept that Isaiah is at least just as good a defender and rebounder as Mitch, while being vastly better at everything else. Mitch is still a starting caliber player and elite at what he does well, but Isaiah is nice as hell when he’s healthy. If he starts hitting jumpers again, and continues to up his offense, it’s not even a question.
I still see posters thinking he’s a better defender than Isaiah though, when basically no numbers support that. Mitch also gets a lot of his offensive boards because he just stands next to the basket on offense clogging the lane, since he cant do anything else. People don’t seem to mention that enough. He’s the best in the league at it sure, but it comes at a cost.
Isaiah was playing hurt for over a month, but he’s been great again lately. When he’s at this level he’s a clearly superior player to Mitch, who is very good himself.
We just need to keep Isaiah’s minutes at 28 mpg or so, and that’s where Mitch comes in with the other 20, basically flipping the minutes they used to have.
Some posters dont want to accept that Isaiah is at least just as good a defender and rebounder as Mitch, while being vastly better at everything else. Mitch is still a starting caliber player and elite at what he does well, but Isaiah is nice as hell when he’s healthy. If he starts hitting jumpers again, and continues to up his offense, it’s not even a question.
Re: GT: New York Knicks at Toronto Raptors at 7:30pm on Wednesday, 3/27/24 - Bruson vs IQ?
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Re: GT: New York Knicks at Toronto Raptors at 7:30pm on Wednesday, 3/27/24 - Bruson vs IQ?
So what is Mitch's mpg limit before the minutes police start complaining?
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Re: GT: New York Knicks at Toronto Raptors at 7:30pm on Wednesday, 3/27/24 - Bruson vs IQ?
I am assuming this means Mitch will check in before Precious for Hartenstein around the 5 to 6 minute mark in the first. Precious comes in for JHart in the second. Excited to see Mitch again and we got a solid 2 weeks for him to get his feet wet. Hoping to see OG back for the Thunder or Heat game.
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Re: GT: New York Knicks at Toronto Raptors at 7:30pm on Wednesday, 3/27/24 - Bruson vs IQ?
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i'm about to get a carton of them julius randles.
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Re: GT: New York Knicks at Toronto Raptors at 7:30pm on Wednesday, 3/27/24 - BIG MEECH RETURN, RJ and IQ out.
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Re: GT: New York Knicks at Toronto Raptors at 7:30pm on Wednesday, 3/27/24 - BIG MEECH RETURN, RJ and IQ out.
Whether you like Mitch or Ihart more the team is far better with both. 48 minutes of metal bats
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Re: GT: New York Knicks at Toronto Raptors at 7:30pm on Wednesday, 3/27/24 - Bruson vs IQ?
TKKnicks1 wrote:I am assuming this means Mitch will check in before Precious for Hartenstein around the 5 to 6 minute mark in the first. Precious comes in for JHart in the second. Excited to see Mitch again and we got a solid 2 weeks for him to get his feet wet. Hoping to see OG back for the Thunder or Heat game.
would be nice if OG were good to come back to help us get those Ws
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Re: GT: New York Knicks at Toronto Raptors at 7:30pm on Wednesday, 3/27/24 - BIG MEECH RETURN, RJ and IQ out.
Gravy wrote:Whether you like Mitch or Ihart more the team is far better with both. 48 minutes of metal bats
preach. **** preach!
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Re: GT: New York Knicks at Toronto Raptors at 7:30pm on Wednesday, 3/27/24 - BIG MEECH RETURN, RJ and IQ out.
Mitch off the bench makes us better.... when OG returns soon (hopefully) we go to another level entirely.
If Randle returns and fill our last remaining hole without trying to do too much... we can be competitive with anyone.
If Randle returns and fill our last remaining hole without trying to do too much... we can be competitive with anyone.
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Gravy wrote:Whether you like Mitch or Ihart more the team is far better with both. 48 minutes of metal bats
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Re: GT: New York Knicks at Toronto Raptors at 7:30pm on Wednesday, 3/27/24 - Bruson vs IQ?
i-hart is better pretty much everywhere. mitch is potentially a better shot blocker due to his length and athleticism, but hart is a far smarter defender and doesn't give up easy shots around the rim (mitch does at times to avoid fouling). defending PnP and perimeter it's not really close.TrueWarrior wrote:Great to have Mitch return. He’s obviously a way better player than Jericho, and Precious may see his time cut a bit too.
I still see posters thinking he’s a better defender than Isaiah though, when basically no numbers support that. Mitch also gets a lot of his offensive boards because he just stands next to the basket on offense clogging the lane, since he cant do anything else. People don’t seem to mention that enough.
Isaiah was playing hurt for over a month, but he’s been great again lately. When he’s at this level he’s a clearly superior player to Mitch, who is very good himself.
We just need to keep Isaiah’s minutes at 28 mpg or so, and that’s where Mitch comes in with the other 20, basically flipping the minutes they used to have.
Some posters dont want to accept that Isaiah is at least just as good a defender and rebounder as Mitch, while being vastly better at everything else. Mitch is still a starting caliber player and elite at what he does well, but Isaiah is nice as hell when he’s healthy. If he starts hitting jumpers again, and continues to up his offense, it’s not even a question.
not a knock on mitch as much as a testament to how good ihart is. he needs to be this team's center going forward.
Re: GT: New York Knicks at Toronto Raptors at 7:30pm on Wednesday, 3/27/24 - BIG MEECH RETURN, RJ and IQ out.
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Re: GT: New York Knicks at Toronto Raptors at 7:30pm on Wednesday, 3/27/24 - BIG MEECH RETURN, RJ and IQ out.
saying ihart is the better rebounder/defender is like saying obi would end up better than randle. nobody would say something so ridic...oh wait lol
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Re: GT: New York Knicks at Toronto Raptors at 7:30pm on Wednesday, 3/27/24 - Bruson vs IQ?
FrozenEnvelope wrote:So what is Mitch's mpg limit before the minutes police start complaining?
48 what else?
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Re: GT: New York Knicks at Toronto Raptors at 7:30pm on Wednesday, 3/27/24 - BIG MEECH RETURN, RJ and IQ out.
Gravy wrote:Whether you like Mitch or Ihart more the team is far better with both. 48 minutes of metal bats
For sure. We all agree on that.
Jericho isn’t cutting it, and while Precious has been solid he’s a tweener.
We can keep both Isaiah and Mitch too, since they’d only cost around 30 mill a year total. I’m just not sure we will. With the new tax aprons we may want to spend money on a more versatile player than Mitch. Isaiah would probably only re-sign with us if he started going forward also, as he should.
Mitch, Deuce, Bojan and a few firsts is an enticing trade package for a star without giving up any of our starters. I love Deuce and Mitch, but it is what it is if we want to upgrade. Julius could be on the table too. Depends who we target.
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Re: GT: New York Knicks at Toronto Raptors at 7:30pm on Wednesday, 3/27/24 - BIG MEECH RETURN, RJ and IQ out.
Last time I was this excited, was, when OG came back for like 2 games never to be heard of again.
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I wonder if mitch worked on his FTs?
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Re: GT: New York Knicks at Toronto Raptors at 7:30pm on Wednesday, 3/27/24 - BIG MEECH RETURN, RJ and IQ out.
Hartenstein / Robinson
Randle / Achiuwa
Anunoby / Bogdanovic
Di Vincenzo / Hart
Brunson / McBride
Without Randle
Hartenstein / Robinson
Anunony / Achiuwa
Hart / Bogdanovic
Di Vincenzo / Burks
Brunson / McBride
Randle / Achiuwa
Anunoby / Bogdanovic
Di Vincenzo / Hart
Brunson / McBride
Without Randle
Hartenstein / Robinson
Anunony / Achiuwa
Hart / Bogdanovic
Di Vincenzo / Burks
Brunson / McBride
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