The Official Jaylen Clark Thread

Post #61 » by **Klomp** » Wed Mar 27, 2024 11:06 pm

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Post #62 » by **Klomp** » Fri Mar 29, 2024 8:16 pm

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They play tonight at 7, an hour before the big game

Post #63 » by **Klomp** » Fri Mar 29, 2024 9:07 pm

Just think, we might be adding NAW 2.0 to the team next year without making a single move. I love his confidence!

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winforlose · Post #64 » by **winforlose** » Fri Mar 29, 2024 10:16 pm

Klomp wrote:Just think, we might be adding NAW 2.0 to the team next year without making a single move. I love his confidence!

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I love the optimism, but I think he might be a worse JO rather than a NAW. I have seen Rudy hit 5 3s in a row in shooting practice, but you don’t see Rudy hitting 5 3s in his career in all those games. JC has a ton of things to prove before he is even rotation worthy, much less NAW 2.0.

KGdaBom · Post #65 » by **KGdaBom** » Sat Mar 30, 2024 9:14 am

Clark didn't play tonight. Maybe next game.

wolves_89 · Post #66 » by **wolves_89** » Sat Mar 30, 2024 8:02 pm

Unfortunately, tonight is the last game of the Iowa Wolves season. I had hoped Clark would get a handful of G-League games under his belt, but it looks like we'll have to wait for Summer league to see what he can do on the court.

BlacJacMac · Post #67 » by **BlacJacMac** » Sat Mar 30, 2024 8:08 pm

Hopefully he’s spent all this time developing a jumper.

winforlose · Post #68 » by **winforlose** » Sat Mar 30, 2024 8:47 pm

wolves_89 wrote:Unfortunately, tonight is the last game of the Iowa Wolves season. I had hoped Clark would get a handful of G-League games under his belt, but it looks like we'll have to wait for Summer league to see what he can do on the court.

Do we know he won’t play tonight?

wolves_89 · Post #69 » by **wolves_89** » Sat Mar 30, 2024 8:52 pm

winforlose wrote:
wolves_89 wrote:Unfortunately, tonight is the last game of the Iowa Wolves season. I had hoped Clark would get a handful of G-League games under his belt, but it looks like we'll have to wait for Summer league to see what he can do on the court.

Do we know he won’t play tonight?

My guess is that even if he does get on the court it will basically be a token appearance for a few minutes.

winforlose · Post #70 » by **winforlose** » Sat Mar 30, 2024 9:01 pm

wolves_89 wrote:
winforlose wrote:
wolves_89 wrote:Unfortunately, tonight is the last game of the Iowa Wolves season. I had hoped Clark would get a handful of G-League games under his belt, but it looks like we'll have to wait for Summer league to see what he can do on the court.

Do we know he won’t play tonight?

My guess is that even if he does get on the court it will be basically be a token appearance for a few minutes.

I was hoping he might get 15 to 20.

Post #71 » by **Klomp** » Sat May 11, 2024 12:44 am

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winforlose · Post #72 » by **winforlose** » Tue Jul 2, 2024 10:24 pm

After seeing that Monte was leaving something occurred to me. For the Wolves to be okay trading down from 37 to 53 to dump Moore, they must feel comfortable with Clarke as a potential 3rd string PG with 2nd string potential. Thinking about it, in 2 years Mike is likely gone. RD is your PG1, and we have no one else in the pipeline for PG2 except Clark. We could draft one or sign a vet, but both of those options are limited in our situation. Moreover, this year if Mike is down RD is PG1 and whoever we sign is 2, but TC and co must feel good about Clark becoming the emergency PG.

BlacJacMac · Post #73 » by **BlacJacMac** » Tue Jul 2, 2024 10:30 pm

winforlose wrote:After seeing that Monte was leaving something occurred to me. For the Wolves to be okay trading down from 37 to 53 to dump Moore, they must feel comfortable with Clarke as a potential 3rd string PG with 2nd string potential. Thinking about it, in 2 years Mike is likely gone. RD is your PG1, and we have no one else in the pipeline for PG2 except Clark. We could draft one or sign a vet, but both of those options are limited in our situation. Moreover, this year if Mike is down RD is PG1 and whoever we sign is 2, but TC and co must feel good about Clark becoming the emergency PG.

Why would anyone think Clark is a PG at all?

Dude is 6'5, 205 with a 6'9 wingspan. He's a full sized SG. His only real avenue to the NBA is if he develops enough of a 3 ball to have to be defended.

Plus he has a loose handle (at best) and no shot creation ability.

winforlose · Post #74 » by **winforlose** » Tue Jul 2, 2024 10:36 pm

BlacJacMac wrote:
winforlose wrote:After seeing that Monte was leaving something occurred to me. For the Wolves to be okay trading down from 37 to 53 to dump Moore, they must feel comfortable with Clarke as a potential 3rd string PG with 2nd string potential. Thinking about it, in 2 years Mike is likely gone. RD is your PG1, and we have no one else in the pipeline for PG2 except Clark. We could draft one or sign a vet, but both of those options are limited in our situation. Moreover, this year if Mike is down RD is PG1 and whoever we sign is 2, but TC and co must feel good about Clark becoming the emergency PG.

Why would anyone think Clark is a PG at all?

Dude is 6'5, 205 with a 6'9 wingspan. He's a full sized SG. His only real avenue to the NBA is if he develops enough of a 3 ball to have to be defended.

Plus he has a loose handle (at best) and no shot creation ability.

My bad. I don’t watch college ball, and I don’t know much about him. Everything I read about him said guard, and one of the videos explaining his game said he was a PG. I also assumed when drafted TSJ as a SG that clearly meant we intended for Clark to be a PG.

BlacJacMac · Post #75 » by **BlacJacMac** » Tue Jul 2, 2024 10:46 pm

winforlose wrote:
BlacJacMac wrote:
winforlose wrote:After seeing that Monte was leaving something occurred to me. For the Wolves to be okay trading down from 37 to 53 to dump Moore, they must feel comfortable with Clarke as a potential 3rd string PG with 2nd string potential. Thinking about it, in 2 years Mike is likely gone. RD is your PG1, and we have no one else in the pipeline for PG2 except Clark. We could draft one or sign a vet, but both of those options are limited in our situation. Moreover, this year if Mike is down RD is PG1 and whoever we sign is 2, but TC and co must feel good about Clark becoming the emergency PG.

Why would anyone think Clark is a PG at all?

Dude is 6'5, 205 with a 6'9 wingspan. He's a full sized SG. His only real avenue to the NBA is if he develops enough of a 3 ball to have to be defended.

Plus he has a loose handle (at best) and no shot creation ability.

My bad. I don’t watch college ball, and I don’t know much about him. Everything I read about him said guard, and one of the videos explaining his game said he was a PG. I also assumed when drafted TSJ as a SG that clearly meant we intended for Clark to be a PG.

I don't think Clark had any factor in who we drafted. He's always been a long shot to make the club. While its likely his defense is NBA level (maybe even better), he provides almost nothing on the other end of the floor. I'd imagine he'll spend the year in Iowa until/unless he shows he can stick a 3 on a somewhat regular basis.

BlacJacMac · Post #76 » by **BlacJacMac** » Tue Jul 2, 2024 10:51 pm

Clark has nibbled on crumbs his whole career to squeak by a passable offensive impact. Put the ball in his hands and not much positive happens. He is slow off the dribble with a loose handle, a subpar passer and creator for others, and does not have anything resembling comfort in pull-up jump shot situations. UCLA coach Mick Cronin has used Clark on pre-catch movement a lot to get him involved in some sets and help him get downhill.

The lone move that Clark has in his arsenal off the dribble is a little spin-back hook shot to his right. He drives left nearly every time, then spins back to his right to finish. It’s predictable, though it does show a little bit of touch in his arsenal.

Clark has learned how to be a solid off-ball cutter. He sneaks along the baseline for backdoors, reacts to dribble penetration and post-ups well, and generally converts when he gets to the bucket. But at 6’5”, Clark is really grounded as a finisher. He had 57 attempts at the rim in the half-court and 0 dunks on the season. For a guy who isn’t a skilled creator or manipulator with the ball in his hands, it might be difficult to project him moving forward as a positive scorer on the interior.

If the first level of offense disappears and the second (mid-range pull-ups) are pretty much non-existent (6-22 on half-court pull-up jumpers this year), Clark quickly becomes a player whose offensive future is reliant on the catch-and-shoot game coming around.

https://theboxandone.substack.com/p/jaylen-clark-2023-nba-draft-scouting

minimus · Post #77 » by **minimus** » Fri Jul 5, 2024 10:38 am

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minimus · Post #78 » by **minimus** » Thu Jul 11, 2024 7:18 am

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minimus · Post #79 » by **minimus** » Sat Jul 13, 2024 6:08 pm

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His defense translates well in NBA. Now he needs to finish well around rim and hit open threes with league average accuracy

minimus · Post #80 » by **minimus** » Mon Jul 15, 2024 7:35 am

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I already love this kid. He says he studies opponent games to be prepared when he plays against them. The moment Jaylen blows up first opponent play in NBA I will be happiest man on the world!

Now two serious questions:

1) what if one team, say CLE wants to offer Clark an NBA standard deal. Is Clark in this situation a RFA? Or UFA?

2) in mentioned before news Okogie got contract 8 mil, I wonder if Clark is already a better defender