2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 2

[Thaddy]

Guys getting healthy and returning to the lineup might mean we lose this pick. We’re not actually tanking, we’ve just had bad luck and an underwhelming roster most of the year. Maybe the basketball gods will reward us for not being deviants.

Stupid decision by the Raptors. These late season games should have a team wide memo as 'development'.

[Syd-TK3]

Just curious. What is it that you like about Holland more than Castle?

After watching quite a bit of video on both, I am not sure what Holland does better than Castle. Smoother looking shooting stroke, but they shot a similar % from 3. Castles ball handling is miles ahead of Holland. I have also read that Holland is closer to 6'^6" than 6"8". It will be interesting to see what the measurements are on these two.

Holland's potential as a scorer is much better imo he also is just smoother in general when it comes to offence including the shooting stroke.

Their comparable FT shooters (75-76%). Holland's knees kind of bend together on his shots. Castle could probably benefit from a higher arc on his 3's and make it less "slingshot-y". I think it's likely both improve shooting-wise, but a knee hitch may be harder to fix than a low arc.

Holland is faster on his drives, a better finisher and has better length. Castle's a better passer, more versatile in his scoring, plays more calculated and he's a better defender.

Castle's not unathletic, but he's more of a two footed jumper, which may hamper his finishing ability a bit if he's going off one foot.

I think Castle has more potential to develop a mid-range pull up game similar to that of Butler/Kawhi/PG

Im definitely not a shooting expert so i couldn't tell you about key issues like that and the percentages really don't favor either of them. For me it's really just a eye test and vibe thing. Same way I felt about Keyonte I do Holland but even better because of the defense.

I like Castle tho I'm not opposed to drafting either Holland just more my preference because of the confidence i have in his offensive upside

[Psubs]

Just thinking about all of the flaws of the top 10, where would you draft Cason Wallace (50/40/75) in this draft?

At least on par with Reed Sheppard? Not so dynamic but good shooter and defender of 1's and small 2's?

[mihaic]

I would try a double sign and trade with Trent Jr for PWill. The picks are gonna likely be cheap rotation players, hypothetically let's say it's Reed, Klingan, and Hall.

Poeltl - Olynyk - Klingan
Barnes - Hall
Williams - Agbaji
Barrett - Dick
IQ - Reed

The Reed and Dick back court can grow over the next 3 years. I could see them being a very good back court against other benches.

I like Klingan as a mobile match up against other guard skilled bigs like Embiid, Jokic, Chet, Wemby, Sarr, and others.

Replace Reed with Topic and I'm in.

A guard that can't shoot and doesn't have worldly athleticism won't do great in the NBA

Scottie couldn't shoot either.

Edit: Reed has worldly athleticism?

[Mark_83]

It's funny that Clingan has been compared to Jakob because statistically he may be even better at the same stage.

Poeltl, 7'1 240lbs (7'3" wingspan), Sophomore
(Per 36) 20.4pts 10.8reb 2.3ast 1.8blk 0.7stl
(S%) 64.6%FG 68.9%FT
(ADV) 31.1per 10.4bpm .249ws/60

Clingan, 7'2 265lbs (7'7" wingspan), Sophomore
(Per 36) 20.6pts 12.1reb 2.5ast 3.9blk 0.8stl
(S%) 64.1%FG 33.3%3FG 57.8%FT
(ADV) 34.5per 14.4bpm .300ws/60

OKC would be smart to take him at their pick to pair with Chet, but imagine if we got Castle at 6 and Clingan at the Pacers pick? That would be pretty neat.

[PD28]

Question for those who have already gotten into scouting this draft: Any players who you guys think haven't performed well but could jump into the lottery strictly on future potential?

[Mark_83]

Question for those who have already gotten into scouting this draft: Any players who you guys think haven't performed well but could jump into the lottery strictly on future potential?

Collier maybe. Or Walter? Maybe Dunn if he shoots the lights out in workouts.

[OAKLEY_2]

Guys getting healthy and returning to the lineup might mean we lose this pick. We’re not actually tanking, we’ve just had bad luck and an underwhelming roster most of the year. Maybe the basketball gods will reward us for not being deviants.

Stupid decision by the Raptors. These late season games should have a team wide memo as 'development'.

This tank by the Raps is insanely obvious.

[BoyzNTheHood]

Guys getting healthy and returning to the lineup might mean we lose this pick. We’re not actually tanking, we’ve just had bad luck and an underwhelming roster most of the year. Maybe the basketball gods will reward us for not being deviants.

Stupid decision by the Raptors. These late season games should have a team wide memo as 'development'.

This tank by the Raps is insanely obvious.

Yeah, because tanking teams bring back healthy players once they’ve been eliminated from the playoffs.

[tecumseh18]

Stupid decision by the Raptors. These late season games should have a team wide memo as 'development'.

This tank by the Raps is insanely obvious.

Yeah, because tanking teams bring back healthy players once they’ve been eliminated from the playoffs.

What's obvious, as it was in 2021, is that the Raptors calibrate their roster for a particular game depending on the strength of the opponent. So we actually looked competitive against the Nuggets and Thunder, which were fun games to watch. Nokic had to play 37 minutes to beat us. Now THAT'S ethical tanking.

I'm not 100% sure if management really would prefer to keep the 2024 pick, but all signs point to yes. Bringing back RJ (without IQ or Ochai) to play against the Sixers, even without Embiid, is not going to stop the tank. Also, losing Jontay, who helped mightly in the Nugget game, is really a last straw for this iteration of the Raptors. If Kelly O. starts at C for the rest of the year, I don't see how this team can possibly win another game.

[Syd-TK3]

Stupid decision by the Raptors. These late season games should have a team wide memo as 'development'.

This tank by the Raps is insanely obvious.

Yeah, because tanking teams bring back healthy players once they’ve been eliminated from the playoffs.

There's 9 games left I'd be shocked if IQ and RJ play more then 3

[Psubs]

Too early mock draft.

1. Det - Risacher
2. Was - Sarr
3. SA - Topic
4. Cha - Reed Sheppard
5. Por - Cody Williams
6. Tor - Castle
7. Mem - Holland
8. Utah - Buzelis
9. Hou - Dillingham
10. Atl - McCain
11. Chi - Knecht
12. OKC - Clingan
13. Por - Tyler Smith
14. NO - Filipokswi
15. Phi - Kyshawn George
16. Mia - Devin Carter
17. Tor - Tidjane Salaun
18. Orl - Ryan Dunn
19. Atl - Johnny Furphy
20. Pho - Kel'el Ware
21. NY - Tristan DaSilva
22. NY - Zach Edey
23. Cle - Carlton Carrington
24. NO - Ja'Kobe Walter
25. Mil - Ives Missi
26. Was - Isaiah Collier
27. Den - Bobi Klintman
28. Utah - Tyler Kolek
29. Min - DaRon Holmes
30. Bos - Ulrich Chomche

31. Tor - KJ Simpson

[Psubs]

Question for those who have already gotten into scouting this draft: Any players who you guys think haven't performed well but could jump into the lottery strictly on future potential?

Carlton Carrington! He's like Ayo Dosunmu. I would consider him with the Pacers pick.

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[mihaic]

This tank by the Raps is insanely obvious.

Yeah, because tanking teams bring back healthy players once they’ve been eliminated from the playoffs.

What's obvious, as it was in 2021, is that the Raptors calibrate their roster for a particular game depending on the strength of the opponent. So we actually looked competitive against the Nuggets and Thunder, which were fun games to watch. Nokic had to play 37 minutes to beat us. Now THAT'S ethical tanking.

I'm not 100% sure if management really would prefer to keep the 2024 pick, but all signs point to yes. Bringing back RJ (without IQ or Ochai) to play against the Sixers, even without Embiid, is not going to stop the tank. Also, losing Jontay, who helped mightly in the Nugget game, is really a last straw for this iteration of the Raptors. If Kelly O. starts at C for the rest of the year, I don't see how this team can possibly win another game.

Memphis will play Detroit twice. If they win both we may field a more competitive team and perhaps win a couple games too.

[Mark_83]

Yeah, because tanking teams bring back healthy players once they’ve been eliminated from the playoffs.

What's obvious, as it was in 2021, is that the Raptors calibrate their roster for a particular game depending on the strength of the opponent. So we actually looked competitive against the Nuggets and Thunder, which were fun games to watch. Nokic had to play 37 minutes to beat us. Now THAT'S ethical tanking.

I'm not 100% sure if management really would prefer to keep the 2024 pick, but all signs point to yes. Bringing back RJ (without IQ or Ochai) to play against the Sixers, even without Embiid, is not going to stop the tank. Also, losing Jontay, who helped mightly in the Nugget game, is really a last straw for this iteration of the Raptors. If Kelly O. starts at C for the rest of the year, I don't see how this team can possibly win another game.

Memphis will play Detroit twice. If they win both we may field a more competitive team and perhaps win a couple games too.

We also only have one more really winnable game against the Wizards to worry about. If we sit GTJ that game it will increase our odds of losing significantly.

[Thaddy]

Replace Reed with Topic and I'm in.

A guard that can't shoot and doesn't have worldly athleticism won't do great in the NBA

Scottie couldn't shoot either.

Edit: Reed has worldly athleticism?

Reed has a worldly shot and he's more athletic than Topic.

[Thaddy]

Guys getting healthy and returning to the lineup might mean we lose this pick. We’re not actually tanking, we’ve just had bad luck and an underwhelming roster most of the year. Maybe the basketball gods will reward us for not being deviants.

Stupid decision by the Raptors. These late season games should have a team wide memo as 'development'.

This tank by the Raps is insanely obvious.

We need to make it more obvious then. Keep the Gleague squad trucking.

[Ell Curry]

I know he's normally better than this but Karaban looks terrible.

Clingan is very good, still looks like the best center prospect in the NCAA, which he was last year too even above Derrick Lively. Just the injury questions with him, and how high do you take a Kessler/Zubac style good 25 minute centre in a weak draft?

I haven't been nerdily watching Shannon off the ball but I imagine Castle is doing a good job on him since he's 1-8 and going multiple possessions without touching the ball.

[BoyzNTheHood]

UCONN on a 30-0 run

[BoyzNTheHood]

Do the people want the Clingan vs Edey matchup? I know I do!