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Re: Official Summer 2024 Magic Free Agency and Trade Ideas Thread 4.0 

Post#101 » by Bigmagicfan82 » Sun Mar 31, 2024 2:49 pm

I don't think the team needs big changes or a third star. I think we just need to make minor changes to fit the team better around Paolo and Franz. The team need the following

1) To get rid of some of the injury prone players (The injury prone players are Isaac, WCJ, Flutz, Garry Harris)
2) Add Shooting
3) Get older

I think our top free agent target should be Grayson Allen. This team's best starting lineup is Suggs and Harris in the backcourt. that is because of the shooting. The big problem is Harris is injured too often. Allen is just as good of a shooter as Harris and is just as good of a defender. Allen is way less injury prone as Harris. So let Harris go and get Grayson Allen.

Use our first round pick to get a backup 3- D Small forward. Then use our second round pick to get a 3rd string PG. It is time to let Flutz go. I don't think he fits the team anymore.

Next Free agent target should be Nicolas Claxton. Try to get him to be the back up big for this team. If we get him that Goga has to go. If we can't keep him, keep Goga.


Next, it's time to bring up Jett Howard from the G-League.

Suggs/Anthony/ 2nd Round pick
Allen/Black/Houston
Franz/ 1st Round Pick/ Howard/ Ingles
Paolo/ JI/ Mo Wagner
WCJ/ Claxton/Mo Wagner/JI
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Re: Official Summer 2024 Magic Free Agency and Trade Ideas Thread 4.0 

Post#102 » by eyriq » Sun Mar 31, 2024 2:54 pm

Bigmagicfan82 wrote:I don't think the team needs big changes or a third star. I think we just need to make minor changes to fit the team better around Paolo and Franz. The team need the following

1) To get rid of some of the injury prone players (The injury prone players are Isaac, WCJ, Flutz, Garry Harris)
2) Add Shooting
3) Get older

I think our top free agent target should be Grayson Allen. This team's best starting lineup is Suggs and Harris in the backcourt. that is because of the shooting. The big problem is Harris is injured too often. Allen is just as good of a shooter as Harris and is just as good of a defender. Allen is way less injury prone as Harris. So let Harris go and get Grayson Allen.

Use our first round pick to get a backup 3- D Small forward. Then use our second round pick to get a 3rd string PG. It is time to let Flutz go. I don't think he fits the team anymore.

Next Free agent target should be Nicolas Claxton. Try to get him to be the back up big for this team. If we get him that Goga has to go. If we can't keep him, keep Goga.


Next, it's time to bring up Jett Howard from the G-League.

Suggs/Anthony/ 2nd Round pick
Allen/Black/Houston
Franz/ 1st Round Pick/ Howard/ Ingles
Paolo/ JI/ Mo Wagner
WCJ/ Claxton/Mo Wagner/JI


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Re: Official Summer 2024 Magic Free Agency and Trade Ideas Thread 4.0 

Post#103 » by Skybox » Sun Mar 31, 2024 4:41 pm

Bigmagicfan82 wrote:I don't think the team needs big changes or a third star. I think we just need to make minor changes to fit the team better around Paolo and Franz. The team need the following

1) To get rid of some of the injury prone players (The injury prone players are Isaac, WCJ, Flutz, Garry Harris)
2) Add Shooting
3) Get older

I think our top free agent target should be Grayson Allen. This team's best starting lineup is Suggs and Harris in the backcourt. that is because of the shooting. The big problem is Harris is injured too often. Allen is just as good of a shooter as Harris and is just as good of a defender. Allen is way less injury prone as Harris. So let Harris go and get Grayson Allen.

Use our first round pick to get a backup 3- D Small forward. Then use our second round pick to get a 3rd string PG. It is time to let Flutz go. I don't think he fits the team anymore.

Next Free agent target should be Nicolas Claxton. Try to get him to be the back up big for this team. If we get him that Goga has to go. If we can't keep him, keep Goga.


Next, it's time to bring up Jett Howard from the G-League.

Suggs/Anthony/ 2nd Round pick
Allen/Black/Houston
Franz/ 1st Round Pick/ Howard/ Ingles
Paolo/ JI/ Mo Wagner
WCJ/ Claxton/Mo Wagner/JI


I agree with much of this, except...
"Get rid of Isaac"...without Isaac this year, we are in an entirely different place. I'd consider a sell-high for an offensive star of the same caliber, but I think he's staying unless Weltman sees financial problems ahead when he's up for next deal in a year.

"Claxton as back up big"...IF we were able to get him, he'd be the highest paid frontcourt player and certainly the starter at C. I do like him as a target though.
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Re: Official Summer 2024 Magic Free Agency and Trade Ideas Thread 4.0 

Post#104 » by Bigmagicfan82 » Sun Mar 31, 2024 5:00 pm

Skybox wrote:
Bigmagicfan82 wrote:I don't think the team needs big changes or a third star. I think we just need to make minor changes to fit the team better around Paolo and Franz. The team need the following

1) To get rid of some of the injury prone players (The injury prone players are Isaac, WCJ, Flutz, Garry Harris)
2) Add Shooting
3) Get older

I think our top free agent target should be Grayson Allen. This team's best starting lineup is Suggs and Harris in the backcourt. that is because of the shooting. The big problem is Harris is injured too often. Allen is just as good of a shooter as Harris and is just as good of a defender. Allen is way less injury prone as Harris. So let Harris go and get Grayson Allen.

Use our first round pick to get a backup 3- D Small forward. Then use our second round pick to get a 3rd string PG. It is time to let Flutz go. I don't think he fits the team anymore.

Next Free agent target should be Nicolas Claxton. Try to get him to be the back up big for this team. If we get him that Goga has to go. If we can't keep him, keep Goga.


Next, it's time to bring up Jett Howard from the G-League.

Suggs/Anthony/ 2nd Round pick
Allen/Black/Houston
Franz/ 1st Round Pick/ Howard/ Ingles
Paolo/ JI/ Mo Wagner
WCJ/ Claxton/Mo Wagner/JI


I agree with much of this, except...
"Get rid of Isaac"...without Isaac this year, we are in an entirely different place. I'd consider a sell-high for an offensive star of the same caliber, but I think he's staying unless Weltman sees financial problems ahead when he's up for next deal in a year.

"Claxton as back up big"...IF we were able to get him, he'd be the highest paid frontcourt player and certainly the starter at C. I do like him as a target though.


I never said get rid of JI. He is in my final line-up. I said get rid of some of the injury prone players. Some of them we can get rid of because they can be replaced. Some we can't, like JI and WCJ, because they are irreplicable on the roster.

I have never been a fan of contract size being a demining factor in roster position. IMO he would be signed as a backup. If he outplays WCJ, then so be it. He is the starter. Otherwise he is the backup.
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Re: Official Summer 2024 Magic Free Agency and Trade Ideas Thread 4.0 

Post#105 » by basketballRob » Sun Mar 31, 2024 11:04 pm

I wouldn't mind replacing Fultz with KCP.

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Post#106 » by MasterGMer » Mon Apr 1, 2024 3:13 am

Will we see more Giannis talk once Milwaukee disappoints again in this playoff?

I think Magic has to over accomplish this playoff. One, it is our free agency. Two, we can trade for some superstars and they would want to play for Magic.

For example, Giannis 8-)
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Post#107 » by Orl_Magic » Mon Apr 1, 2024 8:13 am

basketballRob wrote:I wouldn't mind replacing Fultz with KCP.

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Good vet to have. Wouldn't mind him if we also get another ball handler.
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Post#108 » by cedric76 » Mon Apr 1, 2024 9:39 am

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basketballRob wrote:I wouldn't mind replacing Fultz with KCP.

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Good vet to have. Wouldn't mind him if we also get another ball handler.



I actually think that kcp would be a very good move

Great vet that can defend and hit the 3

And could be cheaper than Monk and Grayson

Could be our starting SG until Jett is ready to take his spot
Suggs, AB, Tyus, Jase
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Re: Official Summer 2024 Magic Free Agency and Trade Ideas Thread 4.0 

Post#109 » by basketballRob » Mon Apr 1, 2024 10:38 am

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Orl_Magic wrote:
basketballRob wrote:I wouldn't mind replacing Fultz with KCP.

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Good vet to have. Wouldn't mind him if we also get another ball handler.



I actually think that kcp would be a very good move

Great vet that can defend and hit the 3

And could be cheaper than Monk and Grayson

Could be our starting SG until Jett is ready to take his spot
KCP and Harris would be a pretty good tandem at SG. I'm not sure we'll get another PG with Suggs, Cole, and AB here. Plus, we have 2 ballhandling forwards.

KCP is a lot like Harris but healthier. He'd probably cost around the same as Fultz makes.

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Post#110 » by JoshuaPotter » Mon Apr 1, 2024 12:43 pm

People either ignore me or hate me saying it.

We drafted Black (PG), Paolo (PF who plays the role of PG) and Suggs (PG) 3 years in a row.

I am not sure we are looking for another point guard. Now, position wise, are any of these 3 players PGs? Absolutely not. But I see what you are doing Weltman, Wepark, Weham, whatever we call you now.

If we bring in a legit PG I expect him to come off the bench. I also thing Cole Anthony's job is officially in danger unless he really snaps out of it and does well under playoff lights.
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Post#111 » by pepe1991 » Mon Apr 1, 2024 1:01 pm

MasterGMer wrote:Will we see more Giannis talk once Milwaukee disappoints again in this playoff?

I think Magic has to over accomplish this playoff. One, it is our free agency. Two, we can trade for some superstars and they would want to play for Magic.

For example, Giannis 8-)


Or...hear me out... Giannis goes to Lakers like any normal star should and wins 2 -3 more rings and enters GOAT conversation :lol:

nba is mass media narrative driven league, players don't pick teams based on best situation unless that best situation happends to be on big market teams.
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Post#112 » by JoshuaPotter » Mon Apr 1, 2024 1:35 pm

pepe1991 wrote:
MasterGMer wrote:Will we see more Giannis talk once Milwaukee disappoints again in this playoff?

I think Magic has to over accomplish this playoff. One, it is our free agency. Two, we can trade for some superstars and they would want to play for Magic.

For example, Giannis 8-)


Or...hear me out... Giannis goes to Lakers like any normal star should and wins 2 -3 more rings and enters GOAT conversation :lol:

nba is mass media narrative driven league, players don't pick teams based on best situation unless that best situation happends to be on big market teams.


Quoted for truth. All this talk about us being a rising team. Nobody wants to come here. I am not sure unless it is for a payday that any player ever will. Giannis goes to NY/Miami before he comes here if either of the LA teams are ruled out.
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Re: Official Summer 2024 Magic Free Agency and Trade Ideas Thread 4.0 

Post#113 » by p0peye » Mon Apr 1, 2024 2:06 pm

pepe1991 wrote:
MasterGMer wrote:Will we see more Giannis talk once Milwaukee disappoints again in this playoff?

I think Magic has to over accomplish this playoff. One, it is our free agency. Two, we can trade for some superstars and they would want to play for Magic.

For example, Giannis 8-)


Or...hear me out... Giannis goes to Lakers like any normal star should and wins 2 -3 more rings and enters GOAT conversation :lol:

nba is mass media narrative driven league, players don't pick teams based on best situation unless that best situation happends to be on big market teams.


And Dame gets traded to Magic in aftermath.
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Post#114 » by RookieStar » Mon Apr 1, 2024 9:28 pm

p0peye wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:
MasterGMer wrote:Will we see more Giannis talk once Milwaukee disappoints again in this playoff?

I think Magic has to over accomplish this playoff. One, it is our free agency. Two, we can trade for some superstars and they would want to play for Magic.

For example, Giannis 8-)


Or...hear me out... Giannis goes to Lakers like any normal star should and wins 2 -3 more rings and enters GOAT conversation :lol:

nba is mass media narrative driven league, players don't pick teams based on best situation unless that best situation happends to be on big market teams.


And Dame gets traded to Magic in aftermath.


We wish... he probably goes to MIA and we are left with.... BroLo!!! After mosre than a decade of that Dwightmare scenario, BroLo is finally donning a Magic jersey.
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Post#115 » by cedric76 » Tue Apr 2, 2024 10:02 am

basketballRob wrote:
cedric76 wrote:
Orl_Magic wrote:

Good vet to have. Wouldn't mind him if we also get another ball handler.



I actually think that kcp would be a very good move

Great vet that can defend and hit the 3

And could be cheaper than Monk and Grayson

Could be our starting SG until Jett is ready to take his spot
KCP and Harris would be a pretty good tandem at SG. I'm not sure we'll get another PG with Suggs, Cole, and AB here. Plus, we have 2 ballhandling forwards.

KCP is a lot like Harris but healthier. He'd probably cost around the same as Fultz makes.

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Denver has a huge payroll and unless they win the title this year, I think it d be hard for them to offer a 80 M$ / 4yr contract to kcp
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Post#116 » by byeganyo » Tue Apr 2, 2024 10:47 am

pepe1991 wrote:
MasterGMer wrote:Will we see more Giannis talk once Milwaukee disappoints again in this playoff?

I think Magic has to over accomplish this playoff. One, it is our free agency. Two, we can trade for some superstars and they would want to play for Magic.

For example, Giannis 8-)


Or...hear me out... Giannis goes to Lakers like any normal star should and wins 2 -3 more rings and enters GOAT conversation :lol:

nba is mass media narrative driven league, players don't pick teams based on best situation unless that best situation happends to be on big market teams.


Giannis signed an extension and Bucks are stuck with Dame for at least two more years, and as trading Giannis and keeping Dame doesnt work for them i think even if he decide to sulk he is staying at least till 2026, by then he is 32 and people are going to start doubting him as a trade target. But even if for some reason they want to trade him this offseason, what can we offer? Paolo, Suggs and 3 picks probably can make them pick the phone...
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Post#117 » by drsd » Tue Apr 2, 2024 11:22 am

Bigmagicfan82 wrote:So let Harris go and get Grayson Allen.


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Here are the leading 3-pointers at SG this season that aren't max guys:
Donte DiVincenzo, Bogdan Bogdanović, Malik Beasley, Buddy Hield, Anfernee Simons, Luke Kennard, and as you point out, Grayson Allen.

The Harris/Fultz upgrade really needs to come from the above list of players.
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Post#118 » by drsd » Tue Apr 2, 2024 11:24 am

byeganyo wrote:Giannis signed an extension and Bucks are stuck with Dame for at least two more years, and as trading Giannis and keeping Dame doesnt work for them i think even if he decide to sulk he is staying at least till 2026, by then he is 32 and people are going to start doubting him as a trade target. But even if for some reason they want to trade him this offseason, what can we offer? Paolo, Suggs and 3 picks probably can make them pick the phone...


If the Lakers offered Anthony Davis for Antetokounmpo, Milwaukee would not make that deal. Giannis is not leaving Wisconsin anytime soon.
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Post#119 » by cedric76 » Wed Apr 3, 2024 7:01 am

Kcp sign and trade for Garry Harris

Denver would get a player they know well, a trade exception and a SG on a cheaper contract
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Post#120 » by pepe1991 » Wed Apr 3, 2024 7:07 am

drsd wrote:
byeganyo wrote:Giannis signed an extension and Bucks are stuck with Dame for at least two more years, and as trading Giannis and keeping Dame doesnt work for them i think even if he decide to sulk he is staying at least till 2026, by then he is 32 and people are going to start doubting him as a trade target. But even if for some reason they want to trade him this offseason, what can we offer? Paolo, Suggs and 3 picks probably can make them pick the phone...


If the Lakers offered Anthony Davis for Antetokounmpo, Milwaukee would not make that deal. Giannis is not leaving Wisconsin anytime soon.


Giannis is also better player than Davis so ofc they would decline that deal :lol:

Davis is nowdays somehow super underrated. He is one of biggest game changers on defense who also happends to be star player on offense.
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