OT Ice Cube offers Caitlin Clark 5 million dollar contract to join BIG 3 League

[Texas Chuck]

Wild to me still how threatened some men are by any successful woman. And how vital it is for them personally that everyone understand a woman can't compete physically against the best male athletes in the world. Nobody is arguing she can.

Why is this such a vital issue for you? What are you so insecure about?" We just had this with Sabrina versus Steph and against the GOAT shooter shooting from the men's line she absolutely held her own. But the insecure guys had to whine about the different ball.... Because heaven forbid a woman dares invade our sacred space.

Clark is a badass basketball player full stop.

[NbaAllDay]

Wild to me still how threatened some men are by any successful woman. And how vital it is for them personally that everyone understand a woman can't compete physically against the best male athletes in the world. Nobody is arguing she can.

Why is this such a vital issue for you? What are you so insecure about?" We just had this with Sabrina versus Steph and against the GOAT shooter shooting from the men's line she absolutely held her own. But the insecure guys had to whine about the different ball.... Because heaven forbid a woman dares invade our sacred space.

Clark is a badass basketball player full stop.

I agree. Though there are many insecure men, I don't think it's a problem to also be concerned by expectations versus reality. I think she should absolutely do it, however it could have an impact on her brand if she goes out and gets crushed.

Sadly for every Muppet hating on Women's basketball there are those who think the men and women are equally as good.

I hope cooler heads prevail and whether she does ok or gets mostly crushed I hope it's still good entertainment and helps propel the WNBA in someway because nothing much has worked for 30 years sadly.

[boogiezen]

She said in the press con days ago that she only found out about this news on social media. Maybe they reached out to her agents and didn't tell her for a good reason. Her dream is to play in the WNBA. WNBA CBA are not allowing players to play in different leagues while the season still on going. So, I doubt she's going to say yes.

[JayMKE]

Its borderline concern trolling to want her to stay in her lane, the WNBA pays hardly nothing and is a much smaller stage than women’s college basketball. WNBA players made more money in Russia than they did the WNBA, you guys are nuts arguing about how well $75K is decent money for a 20 year old. Such a weird ass take from people who probably fancy themselves as “pro-player” when it comes to men, Caitlin is supposed to sacrifice her earning potential to “uplift” the the entire WNBA while not making enough base pay to buy to buy a house in 2024. People “concerned” about her getting crushed against men probably aren’t going to watch the WNBA either.

[DimesandKnicks]

Its borderline concern trolling to want her to stay in her lane, the WNBA pays hardly nothing and is a much smaller stage than women’s college basketball. WNBA players made more money in Russia than they did the WNBA, you guys are nuts arguing about how well $75K is decent money for a 20 year old. Such a weird ass take from people who probably fancy themselves as “pro-player” when it comes to men, Caitlin is supposed to sacrifice her earning potential to “uplift” the the entire WNBA while not making enough base pay to buy to buy a house in 2024. People “concerned” about her getting crushed against men probably aren’t going to watch the WNBA either.

Keep in mind this is 75k to play basketball for the summer

[dhsilv2]

Wild to me still how threatened some men are by any successful woman. And how vital it is for them personally that everyone understand a woman can't compete physically against the best male athletes in the world. Nobody is arguing she can.

Why is this such a vital issue for you? What are you so insecure about?" We just had this with Sabrina versus Steph and against the GOAT shooter shooting from the men's line she absolutely held her own. But the insecure guys had to whine about the different ball.... Because heaven forbid a woman dares invade our sacred space.

Clark is a badass basketball player full stop.

I agree. Though there are many insecure men, I don't think it's a problem to also be concerned by expectations versus reality. I think she should absolutely do it, however it could have an impact on her brand if she goes out and gets crushed.

Sadly for every Muppet hating on Women's basketball there are those who think the men and women are equally as good.

I hope cooler heads prevail and whether she does ok or gets mostly crushed I hope it's still good entertainment and helps propel the WNBA in someway because nothing much has worked for 30 years sadly.

There are a staggering number of people who truly don't believe men and woman are meaningfully different physically.

For THIS topic, it's a problem because it hurts branding because those people are also a market to sell merch and shoes to.

Outside this topic, it's just dangerous that we are teaching women they can be as strong as men. And for anyone who's seen this play out first hand...it doesn't make for a nice Christmas day in the hospital.

[dhsilv2]

Its borderline concern trolling to want her to stay in her lane, the WNBA pays hardly nothing and is a much smaller stage than women’s college basketball. WNBA players made more money in Russia than they did the WNBA, you guys are nuts arguing about how well $75K is decent money for a 20 year old. Such a weird ass take from people who probably fancy themselves as “pro-player” when it comes to men, Caitlin is supposed to sacrifice her earning potential to “uplift” the the entire WNBA while not making enough base pay to buy to buy a house in 2024. People “concerned” about her getting crushed against men probably aren’t going to watch the WNBA either.

75k is great money for a 20 year old.

Caitlin Clark however is making 4 million a year in endorsements right now (as multiple people have pointed out and sourced)! All anyone has said as this they don't want her to impact her branding as 4 million a year in endorsements isn't going away, while that big 3 money likely would. Would you rather make 4 million a year for 10 years or 5 million now and potentially reduce that 4 going forward?

[dhsilv2]

Its borderline concern trolling to want her to stay in her lane, the WNBA pays hardly nothing and is a much smaller stage than women’s college basketball. WNBA players made more money in Russia than they did the WNBA, you guys are nuts arguing about how well $75K is decent money for a 20 year old. Such a weird ass take from people who probably fancy themselves as “pro-player” when it comes to men, Caitlin is supposed to sacrifice her earning potential to “uplift” the the entire WNBA while not making enough base pay to buy to buy a house in 2024. People “concerned” about her getting crushed against men probably aren’t going to watch the WNBA either.

Keep in mind this is 75k to play basketball for the summer

And they're going to likely market the hell out of her, only adding to her brand value which is likely worth 8 figures already.

[TheSuzerain]

$75k WNBA salary is a joke, women’s sports isn’t at the point you can turn down $5m you gotta secure the bag for everyone

It's going to be Nike's call at the end of the day I think.

Her WNBA salary is kind of meaningless.

[Mephariel]

Wild to me still how threatened some men are by any successful woman. And how vital it is for them personally that everyone understand a woman can't compete physically against the best male athletes in the world. Nobody is arguing she can.

Why is this such a vital issue for you? What are you so insecure about?" We just had this with Sabrina versus Steph and against the GOAT shooter shooting from the men's line she absolutely held her own. But the insecure guys had to whine about the different ball.... Because heaven forbid a woman dares invade our sacred space.

Clark is a badass basketball player full stop.

I agree. Though there are many insecure men, I don't think it's a problem to also be concerned by expectations versus reality. I think she should absolutely do it, however it could have an impact on her brand if she goes out and gets crushed.

Sadly for every Muppet hating on Women's basketball there are those who think the men and women are equally as good.

I hope cooler heads prevail and whether she does ok or gets mostly crushed I hope it's still good entertainment and helps propel the WNBA in someway because nothing much has worked for 30 years sadly.

There are a staggering number of people who truly don't believe men and woman are meaningfully different physically.

For THIS topic, it's a problem because it hurts branding because those people are also a market to sell merch and shoes to.

Outside this topic, it's just dangerous that we are teaching women they can be as strong as men. And for anyone who's seen this play out first hand...it doesn't make for a nice Christmas day in the hospital.

I honestly haven't heard that many people who say that. Like 99% of the people on this planet knows that men are stronger. But I don't see any issue with women pushing themselves to be as strong as they can be. If they want to challenge themselves against men and they end up in the hospital, that is their choice.

[xdrta+]

There are a staggering number of people who truly don't believe men and woman are meaningfully different physically.

You keep saying things like this but it's based on nothing...except possibly your imagination.

Outside this topic, it's just dangerous that we are teaching women they can be as strong as men.

Just where are we teaching this? Maybe you can give an example.

[MrGoat]

Its borderline concern trolling to want her to stay in her lane, the WNBA pays hardly nothing and is a much smaller stage than women’s college basketball. WNBA players made more money in Russia than they did the WNBA, you guys are nuts arguing about how well $75K is decent money for a 20 year old. Such a weird ass take from people who probably fancy themselves as “pro-player” when it comes to men, Caitlin is supposed to sacrifice her earning potential to “uplift” the the entire WNBA while not making enough base pay to buy to buy a house in 2024. People “concerned” about her getting crushed against men probably aren’t going to watch the WNBA either.

75k is great money for a 20 year old.

Caitlin Clark however is making 4 million a year in endorsements right now (as multiple people have pointed out and sourced)! All anyone has said as this they don't want her to impact her branding as 4 million a year in endorsements isn't going away, while that big 3 money likely would. Would you rather make 4 million a year for 10 years or 5 million now and potentially reduce that 4 going forward?

There's a risk to not taking it, too. Being too afraid to take 5 millions dollars to play with some washed up NBA players for 10 games first to 50 would be more damning than getting wrecked there. The Big 3 would be invested in wanting her to not be a disaster too so her teammates would do everything they could to get her some open shots. If he she even hits one shot in the big 3 every father with 4 daughters that wears a pussy hat to the women's march would lose their mind.

[boomershadow]

I suspect she could use some pro level conditioning and training for a year or two before taking on former nba players.

[dhsilv2]

There are a staggering number of people who truly don't believe men and woman are meaningfully different physically.

You keep saying things like this but it's based on nothing...except possibly your imagination.

Outside this topic, it's just dangerous that we are teaching women they can be as strong as men.

Just where are we teaching this? Maybe you can give an example.

At the end of the day, it's going to be mostly anecdotal. I've seen it a staggering amount from pod casts, tik tok clips, to my own sisters growing up and them legit not grasping just how big a difference there is. We see it with all these trans athlete stuff where biological males are competing with females and it seems a large (all be it minority) of people seem to think this is completely fair. We can all laugh when it's some talk show about the Williams sisters beating men in tennis. But I've seen the stupidity first hand with women getting violent with their boyfriend and the boy friend responding (hopefully not realizing the differences either) and sending someone to the hospital.

Even among those who grasp there's a difference I don't think the differences are again well enough understood. The kick that for example knocked out Ronda Rousey years ago was delivered with about 50 pounds of force. The average untrained male punch is 80-150 pounds of force. No I'm not saying some average dude can win a fight nor do I want to get into that. Whole other topic.

But the differences don't end with striking power. They go into reaction times (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4456887/) even. Our bone structures (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15746999/).

Just to recap this as simply as I can. Maybe my brain is mush from social media, but I've seen too many out imply there's far less of a gap been male and female athletic ability (with some claiming there is none) than there is. I believe this is without a doubt a dangerous mind set to have because this has very real world implications that can put people at risk.

But hey if you want to have your brain hurt. Here's a terrifying example of a college girl's complete inability to understand this. And I absolutely think this is dangerous.

Watch on YouTube

[dhsilv2]

Its borderline concern trolling to want her to stay in her lane, the WNBA pays hardly nothing and is a much smaller stage than women’s college basketball. WNBA players made more money in Russia than they did the WNBA, you guys are nuts arguing about how well $75K is decent money for a 20 year old. Such a weird ass take from people who probably fancy themselves as “pro-player” when it comes to men, Caitlin is supposed to sacrifice her earning potential to “uplift” the the entire WNBA while not making enough base pay to buy to buy a house in 2024. People “concerned” about her getting crushed against men probably aren’t going to watch the WNBA either.

75k is great money for a 20 year old.

Caitlin Clark however is making 4 million a year in endorsements right now (as multiple people have pointed out and sourced)! All anyone has said as this they don't want her to impact her branding as 4 million a year in endorsements isn't going away, while that big 3 money likely would. Would you rather make 4 million a year for 10 years or 5 million now and potentially reduce that 4 going forward?

There's a risk to not taking it, too. Being too afraid to take 5 millions dollars to play with some washed up NBA players for 10 games first to 50 would be more damning than getting wrecked there. The Big 3 would be invested in wanting her to not be a disaster too so her teammates would do everything they could to get her some open shots. If he she even hits one shot in the big 3 every father with 4 daughters that wears a pussy hat to the women's march would lose their mind.

I mean...if people have realistic expectations and she makes some great shots, that would be great. I'm gonna guess Nike won't see it that way and won't want their athlete doing this. And as people keep saying, ultimately it'll be the sponsors who make the call.

[dc]

Sadly for every Muppet hating on Women's basketball there are those who think the men and women are equally as good.

A lot of this just comes down to people just forgetting how good even the worst pro male players are.

A "men vs women" debate in basketball 99% of the time starts with something like "She can't possibly be worse than Killian Hayes. Why not give her a shot?"

[JayMKE]

Its borderline concern trolling to want her to stay in her lane, the WNBA pays hardly nothing and is a much smaller stage than women’s college basketball. WNBA players made more money in Russia than they did the WNBA, you guys are nuts arguing about how well $75K is decent money for a 20 year old. Such a weird ass take from people who probably fancy themselves as “pro-player” when it comes to men, Caitlin is supposed to sacrifice her earning potential to “uplift” the the entire WNBA while not making enough base pay to buy to buy a house in 2024. People “concerned” about her getting crushed against men probably aren’t going to watch the WNBA either.

75k is great money for a 20 year old.

Caitlin Clark however is making 4 million a year in endorsements right now (as multiple people have pointed out and sourced)! All anyone has said as this they don't want her to impact her branding as 4 million a year in endorsements isn't going away, while that big 3 money likely would. Would you rather make 4 million a year for 10 years or 5 million now and potentially reduce that 4 going forward?

How would be taking $5M to play 10 games with Big3 over the summer hurt her “branding” and endanger her career endorsement dollars? Do not speak hypothetically about other people’s perceptions, that’s where the accusation of concern trolling comes from, are you personally going to hold it against her? Like put your money where your mouth is and say what you really think. It doesn’t make any logical sense how it would hurt her branding with anyone that would give female athletes the time of day, do you honestly believe there are people out there that would only watch her is sticks in her lane only? You got your own narrative about how we’re not teaching boys & girls right or whatever, I think its a you issue not Nike so stop hiding behind that.


She can do Big3 and secure the bag after 10 games while putting more eyes on her & women’s basketball than ever before. Don’t be “afraid” to watch ballers play, were you nervous for Sabrina Ionescu? Was her competing against Steph Curry bad? It looked like tremendous success to me, most entertaining part of AS weekend.

[dhsilv2]

Its borderline concern trolling to want her to stay in her lane, the WNBA pays hardly nothing and is a much smaller stage than women’s college basketball. WNBA players made more money in Russia than they did the WNBA, you guys are nuts arguing about how well $75K is decent money for a 20 year old. Such a weird ass take from people who probably fancy themselves as “pro-player” when it comes to men, Caitlin is supposed to sacrifice her earning potential to “uplift” the the entire WNBA while not making enough base pay to buy to buy a house in 2024. People “concerned” about her getting crushed against men probably aren’t going to watch the WNBA either.

75k is great money for a 20 year old.

Caitlin Clark however is making 4 million a year in endorsements right now (as multiple people have pointed out and sourced)! All anyone has said as this they don't want her to impact her branding as 4 million a year in endorsements isn't going away, while that big 3 money likely would. Would you rather make 4 million a year for 10 years or 5 million now and potentially reduce that 4 going forward?

How would be taking $5M to play 10 games with Big3 over the summer hurt her “branding” and endanger her career endorsement dollars? Do not speak hypothetically about other people’s perceptions, that’s where the accusation of concern trolling comes from, are you personally going to hold it against her? Like put your money where your mouth is and say what you really think. It doesn’t make any logical sense how it would hurt her branding with anyone that would give female athletes the time of day, do you honestly believe there are people out there that would only watch her is sticks in her lane only? You got your own narrative about how we’re not teaching boys & girls right or whatever, I think its a you issue not Nike so stop hiding behind that.


She can do Big3 and secure the bag after 10 games while putting more eyes on her & women’s basketball than ever before. Don’t be “afraid” to watch ballers play, were you nervous for Sabrina Ionescu? Was her competing against Steph Curry bad? It looked like tremendous success to me, most entertaining part of AS weekend.

My opinion isn't important. Nike's is. Do you not think it would look bad if she's humiliated in the big 3? Again doesn't matter to me, but I don't think that's the image Nike wants. I'm sure she'll make the call based on what is best for her, not what we think. But I'm going to guess the risk of injury + hurting her brand will likely send her to the WNBA.

[JJ_PR]

Getting $5 million to play 10 3v3 exhibition games is like winning the lottery. There's no reason not to take the money, no downside whatsoever in my eyes.

[JayMKE]

75k is great money for a 20 year old.

Caitlin Clark however is making 4 million a year in endorsements right now (as multiple people have pointed out and sourced)! All anyone has said as this they don't want her to impact her branding as 4 million a year in endorsements isn't going away, while that big 3 money likely would. Would you rather make 4 million a year for 10 years or 5 million now and potentially reduce that 4 going forward?

How would be taking $5M to play 10 games with Big3 over the summer hurt her “branding” and endanger her career endorsement dollars? Do not speak hypothetically about other people’s perceptions, that’s where the accusation of concern trolling comes from, are you personally going to hold it against her? Like put your money where your mouth is and say what you really think. It doesn’t make any logical sense how it would hurt her branding with anyone that would give female athletes the time of day, do you honestly believe there are people out there that would only watch her is sticks in her lane only? You got your own narrative about how we’re not teaching boys & girls right or whatever, I think its a you issue not Nike so stop hiding behind that.


She can do Big3 and secure the bag after 10 games while putting more eyes on her & women’s basketball than ever before. Don’t be “afraid” to watch ballers play, were you nervous for Sabrina Ionescu? Was her competing against Steph Curry bad? It looked like tremendous success to me, most entertaining part of AS weekend.

My opinion isn't important. Nike's is. Do you not think it would look bad if she's humiliated in the big 3? Again doesn't matter to me, but I don't think that's the image Nike wants. I'm sure she'll make the call based on what is best for her, not what we think. But I'm going to guess the risk of injury + hurting her brand will likely send her to the WNBA.

Unless I missed the part where you're an official representative of Nike you're expressing your own opinion, c'mon man. Nike isn't going punish Clark because she has the courage to play against men in 10 exhibition games, if anything they'd celebrate her as the epitome of the "Just do it" ethos.