Basketball_Jones wrote:I wish Ochai would put up stats on a crap team
Nah.. our scrubs are real scrubs....
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Basketball_Jones wrote:I wish Ochai would put up stats on a crap team
Los_29 wrote:There is no difference to what Banton is doing now than what guys like Sharpe and Eubanks did in years past. We see it every year.
Key for Banton is finding a team that is willing to give him a chance to play minutes in meaningful games for a team with some sort of structure. If that happens, Banton is going to need to contribute in others areas and be more efficient. If he can’t do that then he probably won’t stick around in this league.
TRik wrote:Fantastic game by Banton against a tough Magic squad. Also, so far Scoot really really has shown low BBIQ. Too early to say bust but he sucks so far.
Duffman100 wrote:OakleyDokely wrote:This dude thinks taking 14 shots to get 15 points is good.maternal85 wrote:
lol
Stop gaslighting him. Did you look at the stats???
HiJiNX wrote:TRik wrote:Fantastic game by Banton against a tough Magic squad. Also, so far Scoot really really has shown low BBIQ. Too early to say bust but he sucks so far.
AND he was a positive in the plus minus category.
Now I think it’s important to mention that it’s smart to take a wait and see approach but Banton’s swing skill was always his jump shot and he would have to take care of the ball better. He appears to have improved in both areas. I think it’s viable to say we need to see this production be more consistent but I don’t think it’s fair to completely discount some of these performances. Most players are inefficient at the start of their careers (which is essentially where Banton is at when we take opportunities to play into account). Now can he take his flashes and build upon them to make a more consistent and thus more playable player? Maybe. But I think there’s evidence indicating that he’s moving in the right direction. He will need a team to continue giving him reps next season.
Westside Gunn wrote:I don't understand where the Ochai hype came from on realgm. Whenever I watched he would clank those corner 3s he was known for. Shows that he is shooting 25% from 3 as a Raptor.
Delano I can understand, dude is like a 6'9 PG putting up great numbers at the end of the season. It becomes a conversation for a player to buy more time to stay in the league.
Ochai on the other hand might be a player right now solely because of Masai Ujiri, not sure if any other executive will take him.
OakleyDokely wrote:Right now Banton is being used like a top scoring option. No team in the NBA, including Portland will use him like that when the games actually matter. It's Banton's secondary skills that will determine whether he can make it as a rotation player in the league.
- Raptors RealGM Forum re: Masai Ujiri - June 2023What an absolute failure and disaster this franchise is, ran by one of the most incompetent front offices in the league.
Chandan wrote:Basketball_Jones wrote:I wish Ochai would put up stats on a crap team
and even then it wouldn't mean much because "let's see him do this on a winning team"
- Raptors RealGM Forum re: Masai Ujiri - June 2023What an absolute failure and disaster this franchise is, ran by one of the most incompetent front offices in the league.
YogurtProducer wrote:OakleyDokely wrote:Right now Banton is being used like a top scoring option. No team in the NBA, including Portland will use him like that when the games actually matter. It's Banton's secondary skills that will determine whether he can make it as a rotation player in the league.
And his secondary skills franky, suck.
And even right now as the top scoring option, his efficiency (kind of the important part here) also **** sucks.
EH15 wrote:YogurtProducer wrote:OakleyDokely wrote:Right now Banton is being used like a top scoring option. No team in the NBA, including Portland will use him like that when the games actually matter. It's Banton's secondary skills that will determine whether he can make it as a rotation player in the league.
And his secondary skills franky, suck.
And even right now as the top scoring option, his efficiency (kind of the important part here) also **** sucks.
What do you consider his secondary skills?
- Raptors RealGM Forum re: Masai Ujiri - June 2023What an absolute failure and disaster this franchise is, ran by one of the most incompetent front offices in the league.
Mark_83 wrote:Not saying he's gonna be a star or anything but the kid's looking promising again with Portland averaging 14.3pts 4.5reb 2.6ast in 26 minutes a game on 42/39/73 shooting.
Hometown kid. Still only 24 so the perfect age for our current rebuild. Obviously Masai didn't know we were going to tear it down but even with that in mind did we give up on him too early? It would have been cool to see him get an opportunity with the current roster that is giving minutes to the likes of Carton, Ramsey, and McDaniels.
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brownbobcat wrote:
Yes, he has flaws but tell me why he can't be a backup PG if he keeps improving?
Duffman100 wrote:brownbobcat wrote:
Yes, he has flaws but tell me why he can't be a backup PG if he keeps improving?
I think like 99% of us (outside of maybe YP) are saying that he CAN. We just don't know until games actually start to matter again, people are slotted into their regular roles and winning matters again. That these stretches can and have regularly been false positives in terms of players.
brownbobcat wrote:Duffman100 wrote:brownbobcat wrote:
Yes, he has flaws but tell me why he can't be a backup PG if he keeps improving?
I think like 99% of us (outside of maybe YP) are saying that he CAN. We just don't know until games actually start to matter again, people are slotted into their regular roles and winning matters again. That these stretches can and have regularly been false positives in terms of players.
None of Portland's games have mattered this season - and that's arguably true for 90% of the Raptors' season too. I just find it way too convenient that some think Banton's stats mean absolutely nothing but it's worthwhile talking about Gradey's 1 good month. Maybe (probably) Banton isn't 16 PPG good, but he's showing something here. I just think this blind adherence to certain archetypes is bunk, especially when you can make a very good case that the BBQ core is equally non-conventional in their own right.