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Post#1 » by NYG » Mon Apr 1, 2024 11:42 pm

Which 3 teams are the best fit for the following players besides their current team...

Dejounte Murray
DeMar DeRozan
Jae'Sean Tate
Tyler Herro
Anfernee Simons
Jerami Grant
Kyle Kuzma
Tyus Jones
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Post#2 » by QMemphis » Tue Apr 2, 2024 12:17 am

NYG wrote:Which 3 teams are the best fit for the following players besides their current team...

Dejounte Murray -Magic/Spurs/Lakers
DeMar DeRozan-Philly/Lakers/Kings
Jae'Sean Tate-Any
Tyler Herro- Magic/Jazz/Knicks
Anfernee Simons -Magic/Raptors/Lakers
Jerami Grant- Kings/Philly/Heat
Kyle Kuzma- Kings/Lakers/Heat
Tyus Jones
-Wolves/Magic/Spurs
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Post#3 » by OxAndFox » Tue Apr 2, 2024 1:34 am

Dejounte Murray - Spurs/Lakers/Brooklyn
DeMar DeRozan - Philly/GSW/Atlanta
Jae'Sean Tate - Miami/Dallas/Phoenix
Tyler Herro - Charlotte/Utah/NOP
Anfernee Simons - Washington/Milwaukee/Charlotte
Jerami Grant - Philly/Chicago/Miami
Kyle Kuzma - Detroit/Portland/Spurs
Tyus Jones - Minny/Brooklyn/Suns
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Post#4 » by NYG » Tue Apr 2, 2024 1:57 am

Dejounte Murray - Lakers, Heat, 76ers
DeMar DeRozan - 76ers, Pistons, Thunder
Jae'Sean Tate - Suns, Bucks, Mavericks
Tyler Herro - Jazz, Spurs, Magic
Anfernee Simons - Lakers, Magic, Pelicans
Jerami Grant - Pistons, Mavericks, 76ers
Kyle Kuzma - Pistons, Hornets (if they lose Bridges), Kings
Tyus Jones - Nets, Magic, Spurs
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Post#5 » by babyjax13 » Tue Apr 2, 2024 3:05 am

Herro would be an abysmal fit for the Jazz. We have a thousand all-offense no-defense gaurds and if you add their salaries together it barely exceeds Herro's.

Dejounte Murray - Jazz, Spurs, Pelicans
DeMar DeRozan - Warriors, Thunder, Heat
Jae'Sean Tate - Mavs, Celtics, Nuggets
Tyler Herro - Boston, Charlotte, Pacers
Anfernee Simons - Lakers, Pelicans, Wizards
Jerami Grant - Kings, Mavericks, 76ers
Kyle Kuzma - Pistons, Hornets, Nets
Tyus Jones - Timberwolves, Spurs, Suns
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Post#6 » by NYG » Tue Apr 2, 2024 4:52 pm

babyjax13 wrote:Herro would be an abysmal fit for the Jazz. We have a thousand all-offense no-defense gaurds and if you add their salaries together it barely exceeds Herro's.

Dejounte Murray - Jazz, Spurs, Pelicans
DeMar DeRozan - Warriors, Thunder, Heat
Jae'Sean Tate - Mavs, Celtics, Nuggets
Tyler Herro - Boston, Charlotte, Pacers
Anfernee Simons - Lakers, Pelicans, Wizards
Jerami Grant - Kings, Mavericks, 76ers
Kyle Kuzma - Pistons, Hornets, Nets
Tyus Jones - Timberwolves, Spurs, Suns


Pacers is a good one for Herro... Hield replacement
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NYG wrote:
babyjax13 wrote:Herro would be an abysmal fit for the Jazz. We have a thousand all-offense no-defense gaurds and if you add their salaries together it barely exceeds Herro's.

Dejounte Murray - Jazz, Spurs, Pelicans
DeMar DeRozan - Warriors, Thunder, Heat
Jae'Sean Tate - Mavs, Celtics, Nuggets
Tyler Herro - Boston, Charlotte, Pacers
Anfernee Simons - Lakers, Pelicans, Wizards
Jerami Grant - Kings, Mavericks, 76ers
Kyle Kuzma - Pistons, Hornets, Nets
Tyus Jones - Timberwolves, Spurs, Suns


Pacers is a good one for Herro... Hield replacement

Haliburton's interviews really seem like he appreciates having a gunner at shooting guard. There is an interesting clip somewhere of him talking about Jordan Poole taking a shot where everyone thought Curry should have and his response was, "well, he was open, that was a good shot."
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Post#8 » by BBallFreak » Tue Apr 2, 2024 6:52 pm

babyjax13 wrote:DeMar DeRozan - Heat


I don't see it. Not at all. He's a shooting guard who can't shoot. Why do we need that? Our offense runs so much another when we have a floor spacer like Duncan Robinson rather than a guy who you can pack the paint on.
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Post#9 » by drosestruts » Tue Apr 2, 2024 7:49 pm

I looked at this from the point of view that these players simply just magically get dropped onto an existing roster and didn't consider cap space or trade assets or any of that.

Dejounte Murray - Brooklyn, Lakers, Atlanta

DeMar DeRozan - Indiana, Denver, Sacramento

Jae'Sean Tate - Cleveland, Utah, Memphis

Tyler Herro - Milwuakee, Miami, San Antonio

Anfernee Simons - Milwaukee, San Antonio, Indiana

Jerami Grant - Philedelphia, OKC, Dallas

Kyle Kuzma - Philedelphia, OKC, Dallas

Tyus Jones - Knicks, Miami, Orlando, Washington, New Orleans, Lakers
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Post#10 » by babyjax13 » Tue Apr 2, 2024 9:19 pm

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babyjax13 wrote:DeMar DeRozan - Heat


I don't see it. Not at all. He's a shooting guard who can't shoot. Why do we need that? Our offense runs so much another when we have a floor spacer like Duncan Robinson rather than a guy who you can pack the paint on.

I see him as a backup for Jimmy Butler that fills a similar offensive niche. He's about to be 35 and I assume he wants to chase a title, going to a team where he can start where Butler is out but otherwise be a backup who can shift games seems like a good situation for both parties.
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Post#11 » by psman2 » Tue Apr 2, 2024 9:38 pm

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BBallFreak wrote:
babyjax13 wrote:DeMar DeRozan - Heat


I don't see it. Not at all. He's a shooting guard who can't shoot. Why do we need that? Our offense runs so much another when we have a floor spacer like Duncan Robinson rather than a guy who you can pack the paint on.

I see him as a backup for Jimmy Butler that fills a similar offensive niche. He's about to be 35 and I assume he wants to chase a title, going to a team where he can start where Butler is out but otherwise be a backup who can shift games seems like a good situation for both parties.


I think DDR in a 20-24 minute role backing up Butler is a great role for him moving forward. But that role is likely not the one that DDR wants going forward and especially don't see him willing to take the contract that role would dictate which is MLE level or less. To stay below the apron to do a SNT Miami is going to have to break up one of Herro/Rozier/DRob in trade returning some some 9-10 million in less salary and let Martin walk to even offer DDR something like 12m in a SNT and stay below the apron. Really hard to see a scenario happening where Miami is able to swing a trade for one of those guys that nets them enough salary savings to SNT for DDR and still make sense on the court. DDR signing for the TMLE would be great but I don't think DDR is willing to do that, he will just take Chicago's money and request a trade later.
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Post#12 » by BBallFreak » Tue Apr 2, 2024 10:15 pm

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I don't see it. Not at all. He's a shooting guard who can't shoot. Why do we need that? Our offense runs so much another when we have a floor spacer like Duncan Robinson rather than a guy who you can pack the paint on.

I see him as a backup for Jimmy Butler that fills a similar offensive niche. He's about to be 35 and I assume he wants to chase a title, going to a team where he can start where Butler is out but otherwise be a backup who can shift games seems like a good situation for both parties.


I think DDR in a 20-24 minute role backing up Butler is a great role for him moving forward. But that role is likely not the one that DDR wants going forward and especially don't see him willing to take the contract that role would dictate which is MLE level or less. To stay below the apron to do a SNT Miami is going to have to break up one of Herro/Rozier/DRob in trade returning some some 9-10 million in less salary and let Martin walk to even offer DDR something like 12m in a SNT and stay below the apron. Really hard to see a scenario happening where Miami is able to swing a trade for one of those guys that nets them enough salary savings to SNT for DDR and still make sense on the court. DDR signing for the TMLE would be great but I don't think DDR is willing to do that, he will just take Chicago's money and request a trade later.
On top of that, you really should be looking at Miami's depth chart. Miami has a backup to Butler, already, and he's pretty good - Jaime Jaquez Jr. Now, if you're going to tell me that Miami is going to trade Herro for depth and have enough flexibility to sign DDR to backup Duncan Robinson, maybe you'd have my interest, but really still, no
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Post#13 » by ChettheJet » Tue Apr 2, 2024 11:35 pm

News Flash to some: Demar DeRozan is just about if not leading the league in minutes played, MPG and is #1 or 2 in clutch points. If you think he's going to be willing to sign for a 20 MPG bench role on any team, you ain't thinking clearly or you're woefully uninformed on NBA basketball.

I don't see the Bulls bringing back DeRozan, it just hasn't worked out with or without Lavine and it's not so much that they need to get younger but they have a veteran roster with DeRozan, Vucevic, Caruso, Lavine, Carter, Craig, Drummond with no winning record and if those guys are still around the younger guys like White, Dosunmu, Williams and even Phillips are never going to play enough or get the ball enough to improve.

A good bet for the Bulls would be Kuzma who while not quite a big PF could pair with Patrick Williams both playing inside and out. They really don't need more guards.
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Post#14 » by theBigLip » Tue Apr 2, 2024 11:45 pm

Pistons could use anyone that can shoot. :lol:

I would still want two way players. SG, SF, PF under 30, maybe a little older on a short deal. We got more cap space than anyone this summer so we could absorb any players on contract. Not sure who qualifies w that criteria.
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Post#15 » by NYG » Tue Apr 2, 2024 11:48 pm

ChettheJet wrote:News Flash to some: Demar DeRozan is just about if not leading the league in minutes played, MPG and is #1 or 2 in clutch points. If you think he's going to be willing to sign for a 20 MPG bench role on any team, you ain't thinking clearly or you're woefully uninformed on NBA basketball.

I don't see the Bulls bringing back DeRozan, it just hasn't worked out with or without Lavine and it's not so much that they need to get younger but they have a veteran roster with DeRozan, Vucevic, Caruso, Lavine, Carter, Craig, Drummond with no winning record and if those guys are still around the younger guys like White, Dosunmu, Williams and even Phillips are never going to play enough or get the ball enough to improve.

A good bet for the Bulls would be Kuzma who while not quite a big PF could pair with Patrick Williams both playing inside and out. They really don't need more guards.


What would you give for Kuzma?
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Post#16 » by penbeast0 » Wed Apr 3, 2024 12:04 am

NYG wrote:
ChettheJet wrote:News Flash to some: Demar DeRozan is just about if not leading the league in minutes played, MPG and is #1 or 2 in clutch points. If you think he's going to be willing to sign for a 20 MPG bench role on any team, you ain't thinking clearly or you're woefully uninformed on NBA basketball.

I don't see the Bulls bringing back DeRozan, it just hasn't worked out with or without Lavine and it's not so much that they need to get younger but they have a veteran roster with DeRozan, Vucevic, Caruso, Lavine, Carter, Craig, Drummond with no winning record and if those guys are still around the younger guys like White, Dosunmu, Williams and even Phillips are never going to play enough or get the ball enough to improve.

A good bet for the Bulls would be Kuzma who while not quite a big PF could pair with Patrick Williams both playing inside and out. They really don't need more guards.


What would you give for Kuzma?


Based on the Dallas rumors, cost is two firsts, at least one good one, but the team would take back bad contracts.
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Post#17 » by NYG » Wed Apr 3, 2024 12:17 am

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ChettheJet wrote:News Flash to some: Demar DeRozan is just about if not leading the league in minutes played, MPG and is #1 or 2 in clutch points. If you think he's going to be willing to sign for a 20 MPG bench role on any team, you ain't thinking clearly or you're woefully uninformed on NBA basketball.

I don't see the Bulls bringing back DeRozan, it just hasn't worked out with or without Lavine and it's not so much that they need to get younger but they have a veteran roster with DeRozan, Vucevic, Caruso, Lavine, Carter, Craig, Drummond with no winning record and if those guys are still around the younger guys like White, Dosunmu, Williams and even Phillips are never going to play enough or get the ball enough to improve.

A good bet for the Bulls would be Kuzma who while not quite a big PF could pair with Patrick Williams both playing inside and out. They really don't need more guards.


What would you give for Kuzma?


Based on the Dallas rumors, cost is two firsts, at least one good one, but the team would take back bad contracts.


I could see Washington just opting to keep Kuzma in that case.
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Post#18 » by babyjax13 » Wed Apr 3, 2024 12:37 am

The question was best fit, not where they'd go.

FWIW I imagine the depth chart for Miami if they had DDR might look like:

Rozier 28/Herro 20
Herro 12/Robinson 28/DeRozan 8
Butler 30/DeRozan 14/Jacquez 4
Jacquez 20/Jovic 14/Martin 14
Bam 34/Love 14

It's much neater if Herro gets dealt (especially returning a power forward + backups at point guard and center) because you'd end up with something like:

Rozier/backup
Robinson/DeRozan
Butler/Jacquez
PF/Jovic/Martin
Bam/Love/C

Where DeRozan's role on offense is the same as Butler's. IDK, I just feel like he'd be ideal as a backup there, not that it is likely.
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Post#19 » by PistolPeteJR » Wed Apr 3, 2024 5:44 am

Dejounte Murray - Golden State or Milwaukee next to Lillard or Curry.
DeMar DeRozan - Houston
Jae'Sean Tate - Houston (don’t know why they move him)
Tyler Herro - Orlando
Anfernee Simons - Orlando
Jerami Grant - Miami
Kyle Kuzma - Sacramento
Tyus Jones - San Antonio

Bear in mind I’m not considering the reality of these teams landing these players; also, outside of Tate, didn’t really want to simply say, “Keep him there” for certain players. No fun.

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