[Krawczynski] Alex Rodriguez and Marc Lore in serious talks to become the next owners of the Minnesota Timberwolves

[BlacJacMac]

First of all that deal was McHale's idea. Do you even know what was in that "illegal" agreement. It was things like if you make all NBA and the Wolves win the championship we will give you a big raise? Of course they would. They were agreeing to do what they obviously would have done. Not snakelike to me, but maybe to you.

It was both their ideas. Both Glen and McHale were suspended. How would you feel if the Lakers told ant to sign with them for league minimum so he could play with LeBron and ad then get paid down the road?

Once again all that was in that illegal contract was we would give him a raise IF and only IF he performed spectacularly. That's something we would have done whether it was written down or not. Nope, not snakelike to me. Just kind of stupid.

I rest my case.

[thinktank]

So since he has relationships you think they will resort to criminal activity?

Has Taylor ever broken rules before?

Yes.

If there’s one thing we’ve learned about Taylor, it is expect the unexpected.

What he’s doing now may in fact be illegal.

In his interpretation of the purchase contract the buyers have breached the contract. The buyers believe they haven't. Nothing illegal on either side. The arbiter/Board of Governors and possibly courts will get involved to resolve which party is correct.

It was a play on words with popular usage of “criminal”.

If you don’t get the joke, that’s fine.

I’m saying I wouldn’t put anything past Taylor, illegal or not.

I know you disagree. Trust me.

[KGdaBom]

But the incentives had nothing to do with the legality! There are all kinds of incentives that can be put into contracts.

I get that you’re trying to be right on a technicality, but it’s not happening.

I never in any way whatsoever said the incentives were illegal. It's not a technicality. It's a fact. I said that the contract was illegal because it was secret and outside of what we were allowed to offer.

Who cares what the incentives were then? What does it have to do with anything? I feel like your saying Glen is innocent because he used a blue pen

Glen was guilty of however much an atrocity that a contract saying we'd pay Joe more money if he made all NBA and the Wolves won the title is atrocious.

[BlacJacMac]

I never in any way whatsoever said the incentives were illegal. It's not a technicality. It's a fact. I said that the contract was illegal because it was secret and outside of what we were allowed to offer.

Who cares what the incentives were then? What does it have to do with anything? I feel like your saying Glen is innocent because he used a blue pen

Glen was guilty of however much an atrocity that a contract saying we'd pay Joe more money if he made all NBA and the Wolves won the title is atrocious.

That didn’t happen.

[KGdaBom]

It was both their ideas. Both Glen and McHale were suspended. How would you feel if the Lakers told ant to sign with them for league minimum so he could play with LeBron and ad then get paid down the road?

Once again all that was in that illegal contract was we would give him a raise IF and only IF he performed spectacularly. That's something we would have done whether it was written down or not. Nope, not snakelike to me. Just kind of stupid.

I rest my case.

Thank you.

[thinktank]

The Joe Smith thing:

Taylor went behind the back of all other owners to retain a player at a cheaper cost.

It was a HUGE deal at the time and even still is.

Snakes cheat, and that’s what Taylor did.

Hence, snakelike fits.

This is how a snake talks:

According to the agreement, Taylor and McHale will be unable to attend games, negotiate contracts or talk to reporters, the owner said.

Taylor said his suspension would last until September.

McHale's leave of absence would last until August.

Taylor said he negotiated the agreement with NBA deputy commissioner Russ Granik.

The deal has not been signed, but Taylor said he expects it to become official next week.

By reaching the agreement, Taylor said Wolves executives will not have to attend hearings in New York City scheduled for Dec. 12-13.

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NBA spokesman Brian McIntyre said the league had no comment.

"I'm not happy about this, but I accept it," Taylor said. "I watch all the away games on television.

"Now I'll watch all the games on television."

Taylor revealed the suspension Tuesday during a speech at the University of Minnesota's Carlson School of Management, saying he expected to agree in a few days to a deal that he called "basically a suspension."

While he said he would co-operate with the NBA's decision, Taylor believes the Wolves were perhaps being singled out by the league because Minneapolis is not a major market.

"We're a little town, a little town out here in the prairie," Taylor said. "And it isn't quite as important to the NBA as the other towns."

[BlacJacMac]

Once again all that was in that illegal contract was we would give him a raise IF and only IF he performed spectacularly. That's something we would have done whether it was written down or not. Nope, not snakelike to me. Just kind of stupid.

I rest my case.

Thank you.

I was showing you how you were doubling down on being wrong.

First you were wrong about what happened. And then wrong about saying you never said it.

And you’ve since said it again.

[KGdaBom]

Who cares what the incentives were then? What does it have to do with anything? I feel like your saying Glen is innocent because he used a blue pen

Glen was guilty of however much an atrocity that a contract saying we'd pay Joe more money if he made all NBA and the Wolves won the title is atrocious.

That didn’t happen.

We need to find the contract. I'm almost certain there were those stipulations in the illegal contract. I thought you rested your case.

[BlacJacMac]

I did. Because I’m right.

Resting your case is not a concession. Quite the opposite.

[guest81]

I never in any way whatsoever said the incentives were illegal. It's not a technicality. It's a fact. I said that the contract was illegal because it was secret and outside of what we were allowed to offer.

Who cares what the incentives were then? What does it have to do with anything? I feel like your saying Glen is innocent because he used a blue pen

Glen was guilty of however much an atrocity that a contract saying we'd pay Joe more money if he made all NBA and the Wolves won the title is atrocious.

Glen Taylor would pay Joe Smith more money if he signed 3 1 year deals, because after those years, they would have his bird rights and therefore could go over the cap and sign him to that bigger deal. There was nothing about performance incentives. If you don't get it at this point, I don't know how else to explain it

[KGdaBom]

I rest my case.

Thank you.

I was showing you how you were doubling down on being wrong.

First you were wrong about what happened. And then wrong about saying you never said it.

And you’ve since said it again.

Which of these is wrong. I said we signed Joe to an illegal contract. I'm pretty sure that's correct.
Within that illegal contract were incentives for Joe based on his performance and team success. Do you believe that is wrong? I'm almost certain it's right.

[BlacJacMac]

Even if the contract had incentives, they had no bearing on why it was illegal. We did not get busted for signing him to a contract with illegal incentives. You literally can’t sign a contract like that.

Why is that so hard for you to understand?

Incentives are not part of the story.

[thinktank]

Joe Smith punishment was a record at that time and it still is.

No team has ever lost five draft picks, I don’t believe.

“ NBA commissioner David Stern punished the Wolves by taking away their next five first-round draft picks and fining them $3.5 million, a league record.”

SNAKE.

[KGdaBom]

I did. Because I’m right.

Resting your case is not a concession. Quite the opposite.

Resting your case means you are done presenting it. I was thanking you for being done. Not claiming concession on either side. Factually there is no question that I'm right.

[thinktank]

Taylor supporters here are a lot of “fun” to interact with.

[KGdaBom]

Even if the contract had incentives, they had no bearing on why it was illegal. We did not get busted for signing him to a contract with illegal incentives. You literally can’t sign a contract like that.

Why is that so hard for you to understand?

Incentives are not part of the story.

I'm not having any trouble understanding anything. I said we signed Joe to an illegal secret contract that included personal and team incentives. I never said the incentives made it illegal. You look at every post I made and show me where I ever said the incentives were illegal. You won't be able to.

[guest81]

Even if the contract had incentives, they had no bearing on why it was illegal. We did not get busted for signing him to a contract with illegal incentives. You literally can’t sign a contract like that.

Why is that so hard for you to understand?

Incentives are not part of the story.

It started as Glen Taylor is a snake because he signed Joe Smith to an illegal deal.

His argument is he's not a snake because the contract had incentives in it.

Yea I don't get it ether

[guest81]

Even if the contract had incentives, they had no bearing on why it was illegal. We did not get busted for signing him to a contract with illegal incentives. You literally can’t sign a contract like that.

Why is that so hard for you to understand?

Incentives are not part of the story.

I'm not having any trouble understanding anything. I said we signed Joe to an illegal secret contract that included personal and team incentives. I never said the incentives made it illegal. You look at every post I made and show me where I ever said the incentives were illegal. You won't be able to.

Every sports contract has incentives in it! Your not even arguing anything, your just saying a thing

[KGdaBom]

Even if the contract had incentives, they had no bearing on why it was illegal. We did not get busted for signing him to a contract with illegal incentives. You literally can’t sign a contract like that.

Why is that so hard for you to understand?

Incentives are not part of the story.

It started as Glen Taylor is a snake because he signed Joe Smith to an illegal deal.

His argument is he's not a snake because the contract had incentives in it.

Yea I don't get it ether

My argument was that secret contract wasn't a big enough deal to call him a snake. You have a low threshold to call someone a snake.

[KGdaBom]

Even if the contract had incentives, they had no bearing on why it was illegal. We did not get busted for signing him to a contract with illegal incentives. You literally can’t sign a contract like that.

Why is that so hard for you to understand?

Incentives are not part of the story.

I'm not having any trouble understanding anything. I said we signed Joe to an illegal secret contract that included personal and team incentives. I never said the incentives made it illegal. You look at every post I made and show me where I ever said the incentives were illegal. You won't be able to.

Every sports contract has incentives in it! Your not even arguing anything, your just saying a thing

I don't think every contract has incentives. A lot of them do. That's why I'm saying him offering Joe this very large raise in pay that was based to some extent on unlikely to be met incentives wasn't IMO that big of a deal. You think it was a big deal.