NBA MVP Discussion Thread 2023-24 (Part 5: So who's winning MVP? )

MartyConlonOnTheRun · Post #141 » by **MartyConlonOnTheRun** » Wed Apr 3, 2024 2:21 am

GSP wrote:Not that Giannis was ever a serious Mvp candidate this season or legit threat to win it but

Bucks

3-2 w/o Giannis, beat Suns, Clips, 3pt loss in Boston
1-6 w/o Dame, lost to Suns, just lost to Wizards, only win was Hawks who were on a b2b

The wizards example is not really indicative of Giannis. his teammates were incredibly bad today.

Giannis was 15-21 (35/15/10); non-giannis was 30-82 and Giannis assisted 10 of those. The amount of opened 3s missed was sickening. Like I guess Giannis could've gone 18-21 and the bucks would've won?

Special_Puppy · Post #142 » by **Special_Puppy** » Wed Apr 3, 2024 2:34 am

MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:
GSP wrote:Not that Giannis was ever a serious Mvp candidate this season or legit threat to win it but

Bucks

3-2 w/o Giannis, beat Suns, Clips, 3pt loss in Boston
1-6 w/o Dame, lost to Suns, just lost to Wizards, only win was Hawks who were on a b2b

The wizards example is not really indicative of Giannis. his teammates were incredibly bad today.

Giannis was 15-21 (35/15/10); non-giannis was 30-82 and Giannis assisted 10 of those. The amount of opened 3s missed was sickening. Like I guess Giannis could've gone 18-21 and the bucks would've won?

Yeah IDK how you can blame Giannis for that loss lol

Special_Puppy · Post #143 » by **Special_Puppy** » Wed Apr 3, 2024 2:35 am

RB34 wrote:
Wolfgang630 wrote:Ant definitely ain’t no top 5 for mvp. He borderline’s overrated

He has the same narrative arguments that SGA has with slightly worse stats.

I could see him getting a D Rose type MVP someday. Great, but not ATG player who was carried by his elite defensive supporting cast

GSP · Post #144 » by **GSP** » Wed Apr 3, 2024 2:42 am

MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:
GSP wrote:Not that Giannis was ever a serious Mvp candidate this season or legit threat to win it but

Bucks

3-2 w/o Giannis, beat Suns, Clips, 3pt loss in Boston
1-6 w/o Dame, lost to Suns, just lost to Wizards, only win was Hawks who were on a b2b

The wizards example is not really indicative of Giannis. his teammates were incredibly bad today.

Giannis was 15-21 (35/15/10); non-giannis was 30-82 and Giannis assisted 10 of those. The amount of opened 3s missed was sickening. Like I guess Giannis could've gone 18-21 and the bucks would've won?

Not Giannis individually he seemed great (I didn't see the full game) but the team seems to suffer more w/o Dame compared to Giannis so its to make an Mvp case for him

Special_Puppy · Post #145 » by **Special_Puppy** » Wed Apr 3, 2024 2:47 am

GSP wrote:
MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:
GSP wrote:Not that Giannis was ever a serious Mvp candidate this season or legit threat to win it but

Bucks

3-2 w/o Giannis, beat Suns, Clips, 3pt loss in Boston
1-6 w/o Dame, lost to Suns, just lost to Wizards, only win was Hawks who were on a b2b

The wizards example is not really indicative of Giannis. his teammates were incredibly bad today.

Giannis was 15-21 (35/15/10); non-giannis was 30-82 and Giannis assisted 10 of those. The amount of opened 3s missed was sickening. Like I guess Giannis could've gone 18-21 and the bucks would've won?

Not Giannis individually he seemed great (I didn't see the full game) but the team seems to suffer more w/o Dame compared to Giannis so its to make an Mvp case for him

Giannis Time-Decay RAPM this season:
+5.5

Dame Time-Decay RAPM: +3.8

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mhwOLqPu2F9026EQiVxFPIN1t9RGafGpl-dokaIsm9c/edit#gid=923517192

RB34 · Post #146 » by **RB34** » Wed Apr 3, 2024 3:19 am

Special_Puppy wrote:
RB34 wrote:
Wolfgang630 wrote:Ant definitely ain’t no top 5 for mvp. He borderline’s overrated

He has the same narrative arguments that SGA has with slightly worse stats.

I could see him getting a D Rose type MVP someday. Great, but not ATG player who was carried by his elite defensive supporting cast

He’s 22 and averaging 26/5/5 with great defence. The Wolves held the 1 seed for the majority of the season.

They lost Kat and are still hanging in there at the top. Nobody expected them to be good and they were pretty much ridiculed for the Gobert trade.

dygaction · Post #147 » by **dygaction** » Wed Apr 3, 2024 3:20 am

Good to see Embiid back for the 1st game after injury.

Exp0sed · Post #148 » by **Exp0sed** » Wed Apr 3, 2024 3:22 am

dygaction wrote:Good to see Embiid back for the 1st game after injury.

it's great that he's healthy but that was unwatchable as usual

dygaction · Post #149 » by **dygaction** » Wed Apr 3, 2024 3:23 am

A dominate performance and W from jokic

QPR · Post #150 » by **QPR** » Wed Apr 3, 2024 3:23 am

Nuggets needed every single one of those Jokic 42 points.

AleksandarN · Post #151 » by **AleksandarN** » Wed Apr 3, 2024 3:29 am

Against the best defensive center in the game

Read on Twitter

GSP · Post #152 » by **GSP** » Wed Apr 3, 2024 3:32 am

AleksandarN wrote:Against the best defensive center in the game

Read on Twitter

I mean Wemby is a great defender but he isnt a lockdown defender man to man or anything

Sengun had 45 on him and gave Spurs fans 95 Hakeem Robinson Ptsd

Embiid had **** 70 against him :lol:

MartyConlonOnTheRun · Post #153 » by **MartyConlonOnTheRun** » Wed Apr 3, 2024 3:53 am

GSP wrote:
MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:
GSP wrote:Not that Giannis was ever a serious Mvp candidate this season or legit threat to win it but

Bucks

3-2 w/o Giannis, beat Suns, Clips, 3pt loss in Boston
1-6 w/o Dame, lost to Suns, just lost to Wizards, only win was Hawks who were on a b2b

The wizards example is not really indicative of Giannis. his teammates were incredibly bad today.

Giannis was 15-21 (35/15/10); non-giannis was 30-82 and Giannis assisted 10 of those. The amount of opened 3s missed was sickening. Like I guess Giannis could've gone 18-21 and the bucks would've won?

Not Giannis individually he seemed great (I didn't see the full game) but the team seems to suffer more w/o Dame compared to Giannis so its to make an Mvp case for him

Yeah I think that is just small sample size with some let down effect of Giannis not suiting up. Dame can get hot but he just hasn't been consistent. Bucks have a stupidly good record when Dame does well with Giannis because its basically a guarantee Giannis got an efficient 30 plus another efficient 30 points from Dame. It doesn't work the other way around since Dame has a lot of 5-15 type games. Anyone who watched more than a dozen bucks games this year and thinks Dame has a MVP case over Giannis is certifiable.

DaFan334 · Post #154 » by **DaFan334** » Wed Apr 3, 2024 4:27 am

I'll just leave this here...

Read on Twitter

QPR · Post #155 » by **QPR** » Wed Apr 3, 2024 4:37 am

Big opportunity missed by the Mavs to close the gap to 4th.

GSP · Post #156 » by **GSP** » Wed Apr 3, 2024 4:41 am

DaFan334 wrote:I'll just leave this here...

Read on Twitter

He would deadass be the Denver Broncos Qb if he was there right now :lol:

AleksandarN · Post #157 » by **AleksandarN** » Wed Apr 3, 2024 4:43 am

Jokic coming for his third MVP

BigGargamel · Post #158 » by **BigGargamel** » Wed Apr 3, 2024 5:06 am

dygaction wrote:Good to see Embiid back for the 1st game after injury.

And you're posting this in this thread why?

This is MVP talk. :lol:

AleksandarN · Post #159 » by **AleksandarN** » Wed Apr 3, 2024 5:10 am

Weird it is pretty quiet tonight

AleksandarN · Post #160 » by **AleksandarN** » Wed Apr 3, 2024 5:11 am

GSP wrote:
DaFan334 wrote:I'll just leave this here...

Read on Twitter

He would deadass be the Denver Broncos Qb if he was there right now

The Patriots would take him too. Lol

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