Zach Edey, 7-4

[FrodoBaggins]

Hurley said it best. If edey isn't a great NBA player....there is something wrong with the nba.

Who is the last post up big as talented as edey ? Mark Williams etc all these guys fit the same mold....defensive bigs. Nobody has been able to score. Not even apt comparison

Again.....look at bobans per minute Domination.....edey has the foot speed of a Lopez of a Gobert. Why is it also ok to play guards who can't defend a wet paper bag but a big has to be an a+defender

Bigs have to be plus defenders because they are the anchors of a teams D. You can cover a guard who can’t defend because they aren’t the last line of defense. They also usually have the foot speed to at least stay in front of guys on the perimeter, whereas lumbering bigs are forced to play drop.

Nikola Jokic? Alperen Sengun? Domantas Sabonis? Are these guys plus defenders in your opinion?

[CptCrunch]

Typical yearly knee jerk scouting from tournament. The first thing one has to learn about college scouting is that never take NCAA tourney performance into consideration ever.

[BigGargamel]

Typical yearly knee jerk scouting from tournament. The first thing one has to learn about college scouting is that never take NCAA tourney performance into consideration ever.

Unless it's Antonio McDyess. Went from late 1st round to top 5 after destroying Penn

[Big J]

Hurley said it best. If edey isn't a great NBA player....there is something wrong with the nba.

Who is the last post up big as talented as edey ? Mark Williams etc all these guys fit the same mold....defensive bigs. Nobody has been able to score. Not even apt comparison

Again.....look at bobans per minute Domination.....edey has the foot speed of a Lopez of a Gobert. Why is it also ok to play guards who can't defend a wet paper bag but a big has to be an a+defender

Bigs have to be plus defenders because they are the anchors of a teams D. You can cover a guard who can’t defend because they aren’t the last line of defense. They also usually have the foot speed to at least stay in front of guys on the perimeter, whereas lumbering bigs are forced to play drop.

Nikola Jokic? Alperen Sengun? Domantas Sabonis? Are these guys plus defenders in your opinion?

No, but they are all offensive hubs, which makes up for them being negatives on D. Edey doesn’t pass or shoot 3s, which means he’s not on the same level. He’s more in the Jahlil Okafor mold.

[DOT]

Who is the last post up big as talented as edey

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[FrodoBaggins]

Duke Jahlil scored at 0.93 ppp in the post while Zach did 1.04 ppp this season - and on much greater volume and defensive attention. People get too caught up in the aesthetics of basketball and not the outcome. Zach's bully ball gets better results than Okafor's comparatively more finesse-based game.

[Big J]

Duke Jahlil scored at 0.93 ppp in the post while Zach did 1.04 ppp this season - and on much greater volume and defensive attention. People get too caught up in the aesthetics of basketball and not the outcome. Zach's bully ball gets better results than Okafor's comparatively more finesse-based game.

And Drew Timme scored at 1.10 ppp.

[FrodoBaggins]

Duke Jahlil scored at 0.93 ppp in the post while Zach did 1.04 ppp this season - and on much greater volume and defensive attention. People get too caught up in the aesthetics of basketball and not the outcome. Zach's bully ball gets better results than Okafor's comparatively more finesse-based game.

And Drew Timme scored at 1.10 ppp.

He's a great post-up player. I'd still take Edey though because of the context (higher volume? More defensive attention?) It's a shame he's too small to protect the rim like Zach. Just doesn't have that jumbo-sized length and reach. Timme falls into that classic undersized center archetype, like Oscar T and Luka Garza. Hard for a big to play in this league if they can't shoot or protect the rim.

[Big J]

Duke Jahlil scored at 0.93 ppp in the post while Zach did 1.04 ppp this season - and on much greater volume and defensive attention. People get too caught up in the aesthetics of basketball and not the outcome. Zach's bully ball gets better results than Okafor's comparatively more finesse-based game.

And Drew Timme scored at 1.10 ppp.

He's a great post-up player. I'd still take Edey though because of the context (higher volume? More defensive attention?) It's a shame he's too small to protect the rim like Zach. Just doesn't have that jumbo-sized length and reach. Timme falls into that classic undersized center archetype, like Oscar T and Luka Garza. Hard for a big to play in this league if they can't shoot or protect the rim.

Similarly hard to play as a big if you can't shoot, pass, or defend in space.

[FrodoBaggins]

You really can't compare Timme, Cockburn, Tshiebwe, and Garza to Edey. Completely different NBA prospects. Just look at the differences in anthropometry!

Drew Timme: 9'0.5" standing reach and 7'1.75" wingspan
Kofi Cockburn: 9'2.5" standing reach and 7'4.25" wingspan
Oscar Tshiebwe: 9'0" standing reach and 7'3.5" wingspan
Luka Garza: 8'11.5" standing reach and 7'1.5" wingspan

vs.

Zach Edey: 9'7.5" standing reach and 7'10.5" wingspan

[JMAC3]

You really can't compare Timme, Cockburn, Tshiebwe, and Garza to Edey. Completely different NBA prospects. Just look at the differences in anthropometry!

Drew Timme: 9'0.5" standing reach and 7'1.75" wingspan
Kofi Cockburn: 9'2.5" standing reach and 7'4.25" wingspan
Oscar Tshiebwe: 9'0" standing reach and 7'3.5" wingspan
Luka Garza: 8'11.5" standing reach and 7'1.5" wingspan

vs.

Zach Edey: 9'7.5" standing reach and 7'10.5" wingspan

Every conversation that exists around skill with Edey just turns into.... "Well yeah my dad is bigger than your dad so he wins".

I would sure hope Edey is better scorer in the post as a senior than freshman Jahlil Okafor.

[FrodoBaggins]

You really can't compare Timme, Cockburn, Tshiebwe, and Garza to Edey. Completely different NBA prospects. Just look at the differences in anthropometry!

Drew Timme: 9'0.5" standing reach and 7'1.75" wingspan
Kofi Cockburn: 9'2.5" standing reach and 7'4.25" wingspan
Oscar Tshiebwe: 9'0" standing reach and 7'3.5" wingspan
Luka Garza: 8'11.5" standing reach and 7'1.5" wingspan

vs.

Zach Edey: 9'7.5" standing reach and 7'10.5" wingspan

Every conversation that exists around skill with Edey just turns into.... "Well yeah my dad is bigger than your dad so he wins".

I would sure hope Edey is better scorer in the post as a senior than freshman Jahlil Okafor.

Okafor peaked in college. I honestly believe he played his best basketball ever prior to the NBA.

[FrodoBaggins]

The average standing reach of those four guys is like 9'0.5". That's 7" less than Zach. That's like the difference between the average center and the average small forward. Or a PF and a SG.

No small issue.

[Big J]

You really can't compare Timme, Cockburn, Tshiebwe, and Garza to Edey. Completely different NBA prospects. Just look at the differences in anthropometry!

Drew Timme: 9'0.5" standing reach and 7'1.75" wingspan
Kofi Cockburn: 9'2.5" standing reach and 7'4.25" wingspan
Oscar Tshiebwe: 9'0" standing reach and 7'3.5" wingspan
Luka Garza: 8'11.5" standing reach and 7'1.5" wingspan

vs.

Zach Edey: 9'7.5" standing reach and 7'10.5" wingspan

Every conversation that exists around skill with Edey just turns into.... "Well yeah my dad is bigger than your dad so he wins".

I would sure hope Edey is better scorer in the post as a senior than freshman Jahlil Okafor.

Okafor peaked in college. I honestly believe he played his best basketball ever prior to the NBA.

If Okafor peaked in college then surely Edey should be able to surpass the 17.5 & 7 that Okafor averaged as a rook no?

[DOT]

If Edey were that much more skilled than Okafor, someone who went 3rd overall in a much stronger draft, and was as athletically gifted as being suggested, he would be the #1 prospect this year and it wouldn't be close.

[JMAC3]

If Edey were that much more skilled than Okafor, someone who went 3rd overall in a much stronger draft, and was as athletically gifted as being suggested, he would be the #1 prospect this year and it wouldn't be close.

Yeah but are you even considering Edey is taller? idk if anyone has mentioned that yet.

[tester551]

And Drew Timme scored at 1.10 ppp.

He's a great post-up player. I'd still take Edey though because of the context (higher volume? More defensive attention?) It's a shame he's too small to protect the rim like Zach. Just doesn't have that jumbo-sized length and reach. Timme falls into that classic undersized center archetype, like Oscar T and Luka Garza. Hard for a big to play in this league if they can't shoot or protect the rim.

Similarly hard to play as a big if you can't shoot, pass, or defend in space.

Edey can pass. I've seen him make some really impressive reads.
I'd be willing to bet he can have a good mid-range jumper too. He has a really solid FT%...

[The Moose]

Every time Edey gets compared to a 6’9 post big, an angel loses its wings

[Big J]

He's a great post-up player. I'd still take Edey though because of the context (higher volume? More defensive attention?) It's a shame he's too small to protect the rim like Zach. Just doesn't have that jumbo-sized length and reach. Timme falls into that classic undersized center archetype, like Oscar T and Luka Garza. Hard for a big to play in this league if they can't shoot or protect the rim.

Similarly hard to play as a big if you can't shoot, pass, or defend in space.

Edey can pass. I've seen him make some really impressive reads.
I'd be willing to bet he can have a good mid-range jumper too. He has a really solid FT%...

He has a negative assist to turnover ratio. If he could shoot then why in the world wouldn't he have broken that out yet? He's had 4 years to experiment with taking longer range shots and he simply hasn't done it.

[TheSuzerain]

If Edey were that much more skilled than Okafor, someone who went 3rd overall in a much stronger draft, and was as athletically gifted as being suggested, he would be the #1 prospect this year and it wouldn't be close.

Now they're getting it!