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Re: Zach Edey, 7-4 

Post#781 » by Big J » Thu Apr 4, 2024 4:50 pm

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JMAC3 wrote:The thread is more fanboys at this point then anyone who actually is bringing anything new to the table. Comparing him to Shaq, Embiid, Dwight, Duncan and even Gobert is a joke.


Exactly. All of those dudes were waaay more athletic than Edey. Even Jokic, Sabonis, and Sengun are more athletic than Edey, and they already bring additional skills to the table. Someone like Enes Kanter is where the comps should start at. Though he was more skilled on offense.


Lmao, like 60% of the posts in here are just haters like you two spamming the same opinions and adding very little substance (just like the 2 posts above)

Hard to believe that some of you haters aren't alt accounts

I mean..... Big J .... JMac .... both just happen to sound like a nickname someone gave them self in middle school...

seems like a little to much to be coincidence....


So just because we disagree with you we are alts? Both of us have made numerous solid points that haven’t been addressed by anyone who thinks he’s going to be good.
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Re: Zach Edey, 7-4 

Post#782 » by CptCrunch » Thu Apr 4, 2024 4:52 pm

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JMAC3 wrote:The thread is more fanboys at this point then anyone who actually is bringing anything new to the table. Comparing him to Shaq, Embiid, Dwight, Duncan and even Gobert is a joke.


Exactly. All of those dudes were waaay more athletic than Edey. Even Jokic, Sabonis, and Sengun are more athletic than Edey, and they already bring additional skills to the table. Someone like Enes Kanter is where the comps should start at. Though he was more skilled on offense.


Lmao, like 60% of the posts in here are just haters like you two spamming the same opinions and adding very little substance (just like the 2 posts above)

Hard to believe that some of you haters aren't alt accounts

I mean..... Big J .... JMac .... both just happen to sound like a nickname someone gave them self in middle school...

seems like a little to much to be coincidence....


My middle name also contains J -> Cpt "J" Crunch. Seriously, Edey fans need to construct some alt-posting conspiracy to challenge posts doubting Edey's (proposed lack of) sucess in the NBA, then you should try harder. I'm also here to put my name on the Edey doubt bandwagon - likely not NBA player by my estimate with outside chance of decent bench player.
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Re: Zach Edey, 7-4 

Post#783 » by Jamaaliver » Thu Apr 4, 2024 5:01 pm

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Re: Zach Edey, 7-4 

Post#784 » by Jamaaliver » Thu Apr 4, 2024 5:03 pm

Zach Edey | C | Purdue | Age: 21.8 | Top 100: 13



Edey put forth one of the best performances in NCAA tournament history while leading Purdue to the Final Four behind the first 40-point, 15-rebound performance since Bo Kimble did so in 1990. This was a career-high scoring effort for Edey in the most important game of his college career.
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Perhaps more important (and more notable from an NBA standpoint) was the way Edey shut down the paint, helping hold Tennessee to just seven made 2-pointers in the half court all game. He did an outstanding job of bothering shots with his length, coming up with several impressive possessions operating out of a drop while making the Volunteers think twice about even attempting shots with him in the vicinity.

He stepped outside the paint on several occasions showing impressive mobility in sliding his feet and 7-foot- 4 frame and continued to work hard deep into the second half while playing all but 33 seconds of the 40-minute contest. Clearly battling fatigue, Edey's defensive impact did drop off somewhat in the second half, which is concerning at the NBA level. Beyond that, Edey's sheer skill-level catching and finishing out of the pick-and-roll, utilizing polished footwork and using both hands finishing inside the paint was impressive to see. He didn't receive anywhere near the same type of whistle as he usually does in Big Ten play, as Tennessee's big men were allowed to grab, hold, push and essentially foul him on every possession. His physicality and competitiveness playing through relentless contact was on display as he drew 22 free throws. He made some smart passes out of double-teams and got his teammates a number of easy baskets with his screening. In the paint, he dominated the offensive glass, as usual, being impossible to dislodge in front of the rim once he established position.

Already coming into this game a projected lottery pick, this was exactly the type of performance that could further propel him into the top 10 for one of the many teams that already has bought into the impact he'll surely make in the NBA. This effort also could go a long way in convincing the holdouts of just how impactful his tremendous size, length, strength, toughness, skill level and intensity can be at the next level. Edey has been viewed by most NBA teams ESPN has spoken with as a lock first-round pick for months now, but his standing has improved considerably with his late-blooming trajectory (he has only been playing basketball since age 15), competitiveness and the fact that he is still a young senior at age 21.
Edey will have another high-profile contest awaiting in Arizona against red-hot DJ Burns Jr. and NC State and, if both Purdue and UConn advance, a dream big-man matchup with Clingan in the championship game. -- Givony
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Re: Zach Edey, 7-4 

Post#785 » by DOT » Thu Apr 4, 2024 5:11 pm

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I feel like when I watch clips like these, it looks like he's dropping too far, like in the NBA guys can hit those shots

And then this is something I brought up about Clingan on the Knicks board, when he fully commits on the perimeter, these college guys are already getting by him, and while he's recovering well enough here, in the pros he's gonna be facing guys who are much more explosive and/or crafty, so if college guys are already getting past him, I worry about his ability to recover at the next level

He's not a statue, but his practical mobility does look like a potential issue, and people can post the combine numbers if they want, but those numbers don't always match up with on-court practical athleticism. Same thing as guys with insane 40 yard dash times in the NFL who can't outrun guys who ran slower than them.
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Re: Zach Edey, 7-4 

Post#786 » by FrodoBaggins » Thu Apr 4, 2024 5:46 pm

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This is a great clip displaying Zach's defensive mobility. Very nice.
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Re: Zach Edey, 7-4 

Post#787 » by JMAC3 » Thu Apr 4, 2024 5:53 pm

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JMAC3 wrote:The thread is more fanboys at this point then anyone who actually is bringing anything new to the table. Comparing him to Shaq, Embiid, Dwight, Duncan and even Gobert is a joke.


Exactly. All of those dudes were waaay more athletic than Edey. Even Jokic, Sabonis, and Sengun are more athletic than Edey, and they already bring additional skills to the table. Someone like Enes Kanter is where the comps should start at. Though he was more skilled on offense.


Lmao, like 60% of the posts in here are just haters like you two spamming the same opinions and adding very little substance (just like the 2 posts above)

Hard to believe that some of you haters aren't alt accounts

I mean..... Big J .... JMac .... both just happen to sound like a nickname someone gave them self in middle school...

seems like a little to much to be coincidence....


spamming? as if you haven't posted the lane agility stats 10 times in the last 2 weeks across multiple threads lol

I will say it again anyone who is saying he is the #1 pick doesn't understand the current NBA let alone those saying he could be a Shaq, Dwight, Duncan center point of an offense. Comparing him constantly to top 10 players of all time is fanboying. You can say alt account or whatever, but some of these Edey posts make me think he is some of yall are his roommate or 2nd cousins with how wildly confident the projections are.
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Re: Zach Edey, 7-4 

Post#788 » by TheSuzerain » Thu Apr 4, 2024 6:37 pm

Edey is objectively pretty close to Shaq as a collegiate performer. Shaq a more dyanmic athlete of course (a lot more blocks), but significantly worse at a few key things (turnovers, fouls, free throws).

It definitely involves some cognitive dissonance to think Edey is a 2nd round guy but Shaq would still dominate the modern game. Basically the same critiques of Edey also apply to prime Shaq (can't defend pull-up 3 point shooters, doesn't stretch). I also think Shaq's FT woes become more problematic in the current efficiency environment.
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Re: Zach Edey, 7-4 

Post#789 » by Big J » Thu Apr 4, 2024 6:57 pm

TheSuzerain wrote:Edey is objectively pretty close to Shaq as a collegiate performer. Shaq a more dyanmic athlete of course (a lot more blocks), but significantly worse at a few key things (turnovers, fouls, free throws).

It definitely involves some cognitive dissonance to think Edey is a 2nd round guy but Shaq would still dominate the modern game. Basically the same critiques of Edey also apply to prime Shaq (can't defend pull-up 3 point shooters, doesn't stretch). I also think Shaq's FT woes become more problematic in the current efficiency environment.


Not really. Shaq was an excellent passer, and could could handle the ball. Both of those things would translate very well to the modern game. Hell, teams could use Orlando Shaq as a super sized Giannis and have him run point center. He'd be even more unstoppable than he was in the 90s.
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Re: Zach Edey, 7-4 

Post#790 » by TheSuzerain » Thu Apr 4, 2024 7:01 pm

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TheSuzerain wrote:Edey is objectively pretty close to Shaq as a collegiate performer. Shaq a more dyanmic athlete of course (a lot more blocks), but significantly worse at a few key things (turnovers, fouls, free throws).

It definitely involves some cognitive dissonance to think Edey is a 2nd round guy but Shaq would still dominate the modern game. Basically the same critiques of Edey also apply to prime Shaq (can't defend pull-up 3 point shooters, doesn't stretch). I also think Shaq's FT woes become more problematic in the current efficiency environment.


Not really. Shaq was an excellent passer, and could could handle the ball. Both of those things would translate very well to the modern game. Hell, teams could use Orlando Shaq as a super sized Giannis and have him run point center. He'd be even more unstoppable than he was in the 90s.

Shaq averaged less assists per game than Edey in college (despite LSU playing at a higher pace). Also more turnovers.
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Re: Zach Edey, 7-4 

Post#791 » by K_chile22 » Thu Apr 4, 2024 7:05 pm

In even an average draft, no, but in THIS draft, I'm fine taking him at the end of the lotto
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Re: Zach Edey, 7-4 

Post#792 » by Big J » Thu Apr 4, 2024 7:45 pm

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TheSuzerain wrote:Edey is objectively pretty close to Shaq as a collegiate performer. Shaq a more dyanmic athlete of course (a lot more blocks), but significantly worse at a few key things (turnovers, fouls, free throws).

It definitely involves some cognitive dissonance to think Edey is a 2nd round guy but Shaq would still dominate the modern game. Basically the same critiques of Edey also apply to prime Shaq (can't defend pull-up 3 point shooters, doesn't stretch). I also think Shaq's FT woes become more problematic in the current efficiency environment.


Not really. Shaq was an excellent passer, and could could handle the ball. Both of those things would translate very well to the modern game. Hell, teams could use Orlando Shaq as a super sized Giannis and have him run point center. He'd be even more unstoppable than he was in the 90s.

Shaq averaged less assists per game than Edey in college (despite LSU playing at a higher pace). Also more turnovers.


Did you ever watch Shaq? He made passes that Edey couldn't dream of making. 2 of these are from his LSU days. Shaq could have averaged 10 assists per game if he wanted to.

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Re: Zach Edey, 7-4 

Post#793 » by TheSuzerain » Thu Apr 4, 2024 7:55 pm

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Not really. Shaq was an excellent passer, and could could handle the ball. Both of those things would translate very well to the modern game. Hell, teams could use Orlando Shaq as a super sized Giannis and have him run point center. He'd be even more unstoppable than he was in the 90s.

Shaq averaged less assists per game than Edey in college (despite LSU playing at a higher pace). Also more turnovers.


Did you ever watch Shaq? He made passes that Edey couldn't dream of making. 2 of these are from his LSU days. Shaq could have averaged 10 assists per game if he wanted to.


It's a shame he wanted to average less assists and more turnovers than Edey in college. Questionable decision-making!
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Re: Zach Edey, 7-4 

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Re: Zach Edey, 7-4 

Post#795 » by TheSuzerain » Thu Apr 4, 2024 8:29 pm

The Edey wars are a noble conflict.

I do think it's a shame the opposition is now sending child soldiers.
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Re: Zach Edey, 7-4 

Post#796 » by GoBobs » Thu Apr 4, 2024 8:41 pm

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Exactly. All of those dudes were waaay more athletic than Edey. Even Jokic, Sabonis, and Sengun are more athletic than Edey, and they already bring additional skills to the table. Someone like Enes Kanter is where the comps should start at. Though he was more skilled on offense.


Lmao, like 60% of the posts in here are just haters like you two spamming the same opinions and adding very little substance (just like the 2 posts above)

Hard to believe that some of you haters aren't alt accounts

I mean..... Big J .... JMac .... both just happen to sound like a nickname someone gave them self in middle school...

seems like a little to much to be coincidence....


spamming? as if you haven't posted the lane agility stats 10 times in the last 2 weeks across multiple threads lol

I will say it again anyone who is saying he is the #1 pick doesn't understand the current NBA let alone those saying he could be a Shaq, Dwight, Duncan center point of an offense. Comparing him constantly to top 10 players of all time is fanboying. You can say alt account or whatever, but some of these Edey posts make me think he is some of yall are his roommate or 2nd cousins with how wildly confident the projections are.


Bro, you are in here saying stuff like Edey is 10x slower than Yao Ming, an exaggeration you made up. If you had any facts that actually supported your opinion you wouldn't have had to make up something dumb.

Now you are saying I posted his lane agility stats 10 times in the past 2 weeks which is another made up exaggeration.

Meanwhile you have posted you opinion in here about Edey being to slow for the NBA at least 50 times. Nothing wrong with posting your opinion, we don't need to hear it 50 times. It's like you think you can win an argument by talking louder than the other person.

Then you come in with, others are spamming and offering nothing new. That is just trolling bro. :nonono:
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Re: Zach Edey, 7-4 

Post#797 » by JMAC3 » Thu Apr 4, 2024 9:02 pm

GoBobs wrote:
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Lmao, like 60% of the posts in here are just haters like you two spamming the same opinions and adding very little substance (just like the 2 posts above)

Hard to believe that some of you haters aren't alt accounts

I mean..... Big J .... JMac .... both just happen to sound like a nickname someone gave them self in middle school...

seems like a little to much to be coincidence....


spamming? as if you haven't posted the lane agility stats 10 times in the last 2 weeks across multiple threads lol

I will say it again anyone who is saying he is the #1 pick doesn't understand the current NBA let alone those saying he could be a Shaq, Dwight, Duncan center point of an offense. Comparing him constantly to top 10 players of all time is fanboying. You can say alt account or whatever, but some of these Edey posts make me think he is some of yall are his roommate or 2nd cousins with how wildly confident the projections are.


Bro, you are in here saying stuff like Edey is 10x slower than Yao Ming, an exaggeration you made up. If you had any facts that actually supported your opinion you wouldn't have had to make up something dumb.

Now you are saying I posted his lane agility stats 10 times in the past 2 weeks which is another made up exaggeration.

Meanwhile you have posted you opinion in here about Edey being to slow for the NBA at least 50 times. Nothing wrong with posting your opinion, we don't need to hear it 50 times. It's like you think you can win an argument by talking louder than the other person.

Then you come in with, others are spamming and offering nothing new. That is just trolling bro. :nonono:


I don't care about anyones speed, not sure I have really mentioned players being slow. Now if you want to talk about being skilled then yes Yao is 10x more skilled than Edey.

Are you not here posting your opinion just as often as I am? Do you think by saying Edey is good you are going to change peoples opinions or win the argument? So not sure why what we are doing is any different haha
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Re: Zach Edey, 7-4 

Post#798 » by GoBobs » Thu Apr 4, 2024 9:08 pm



banned from trick or treating in the 4th grade lol
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Re: Zach Edey, 7-4 

Post#799 » by zzaj » Thu Apr 4, 2024 10:20 pm

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banned from trick or treating in the 4th grade lol


Did he just say that he was 6' tall in the 4th grade?! :o
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Re: Zach Edey, 7-4 

Post#800 » by NO-KG-AI » Thu Apr 4, 2024 10:46 pm

There are guys that ran worse in short area drills and sprints than Edey, and are much shorter and less lengthy, and they play anywhere from ok to great defense.

That said, they had to develop or have great defensice instincts and IQ to maximize their size while minimizing the foot speed deficiencies, and teams have to protect them as well.

Defensively Edey could be anywhere from awful to Jonas Val, to Steven Adams, to a bigger Brook Lopez depending on how he handles that. I don’t see anything on film or on paper that says he’s physically incapable of making it, but those old school dinosaur C’s that do make it today are very smart guys and still have some flaws that have to be accounted for.

Rudy tested much much much worse than Edey did, and I don’t remember how slow he looked as a rookie, but NBA strength and conditioning programs might have done him a world of good, it’s hard to believe he couldn’t beat some of the guys in a foot race that smoked him at the combine.

I’d be more interested in getting him in a film room and seeing how he digests and processes info.
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