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2024 NBA Draft Thread (Early)

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Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread (Early) 

Post#321 » by TheSuzerain » Thu Apr 4, 2024 2:03 pm

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Zach Edey can’t guard outside of 7 feet. Maybe not even outside 5 feet. And he can’t stretch anything offensively.

Taking Edey in the lottery, and having it work, would almost require a complete overhaul of modern NBA basketball strategy.

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While it was a clutch block in that moment of do or die and Knecht being the only player that was scoring anything it was a no brainer block with him coming into the paint. I think Edey is a NBA player but really a backup and a great situational player. I woukd never go lotto with him. He is not versatile on offense or defense. He is dominant at what he does but is he getting any of those calls in the pros? It will be interesting to see how he does against Burns. That guy has such footwork and is also a load, yet Edey has a lot of reach on him. Burns is really good at passing out of the post too. Really to stop Edey they just need to do what the raptors did against Philly when they front him in the post then bring Kawhi as soon as he gets the ball.

I mean tracking a lotto pick from top of the key and swatting their shot at the rim is not a "no brainer" situation (whatever that means?).

And drawing FTs is like the biggest star tell there is. It means you are compromising a defense.
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Post#322 » by Rose2Boozer » Thu Apr 4, 2024 2:09 pm

Repeat 3-peat wrote:Based on AKME draft history. Tidjane Salaun fits the profile.


This. If he's on the board, I'm convinced he'll get drafted by the Chicago Bulls.

I'm starting to warm up to Kel'el Ware. I still want to see how he measures out, but the job Mike Woodson did with this kid shouldn't be understated. It should be interesting because workout season should belong to him.
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread (Early) 

Post#323 » by drosestruts » Thu Apr 4, 2024 2:21 pm

How is Eddey just not a younger Boban Marjanovic?
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Post#324 » by TheSuzerain » Thu Apr 4, 2024 2:59 pm

If we draft Collier or Ware, I'll probably end up banned.
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread (Early) 

Post#325 » by MrSparkle » Thu Apr 4, 2024 5:29 pm

Repeat 3-peat wrote:Based on AKME draft history. Tidjane Salaun fits the profile.


Looking into him more outside of highlights, he is actually a big project. I think he’d manage to play less minutes rookie Terry.
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Post#326 » by TheSuzerain » Thu Apr 4, 2024 6:30 pm

Salaun does seem like an AK style pick (not a compliment).

He could work out, but #10 seems high for him.
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread (Early) 

Post#327 » by DuckIII » Thu Apr 4, 2024 6:58 pm

drosestruts wrote:How is Eddey just not a younger Boban Marjanovic?


Edey is an interior offensive force. He is massive in both the upper and lower body, has very fundamentally sound footwork, solid touch, passes well out of the double and draws free throws at a high rate. He’s not just some random really big guy.

But what I just described, and manning up in the low block on defense, is the end of his value. He is a liability in every other aspect of the game.
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread (Early) 

Post#328 » by DuckIII » Thu Apr 4, 2024 7:01 pm

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Zach Edey can’t guard outside of 7 feet. Maybe not even outside 5 feet. And he can’t stretch anything offensively.

Taking Edey in the lottery, and having it work, would almost require a complete overhaul of modern NBA basketball strategy.

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I’m an Illinois fan. One highlight doesn’t mean anything to me. I have a much deeper well to draw on when it comes to Edey.
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread (Early) 

Post#329 » by DuckIII » Thu Apr 4, 2024 7:03 pm

MrSparkle wrote:
Repeat 3-peat wrote:Based on AKME draft history. Tidjane Salaun fits the profile.


Looking into him more outside of highlights, he is actually a big project. I think he’d manage to play less minutes rookie Terry.


I got no problem at all waiting on a project. It just better not be for a player with an upside as obviously questionable as Terry’s. He’s the worst of both worlds. A project whose ceiling is bench role player.
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Post#330 » by 2weekswithpay » Thu Apr 4, 2024 7:19 pm

drosestruts wrote:How is Eddey just not a younger Boban Marjanovic?


U19 World Cup stats for Edey and Boban.

Boban 2007 U19: 8.4/6.6/0.4 with 1.3 blocks playing 18 minutes per game.

Edey 2021 U19: 15.1/14.1/0.6 with 2.3 blocks playing 23 minutes per game.

Without looking for film on a young Boban, Edey is much better than Boban was when they were the same age.
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Post#331 » by TheSuzerain » Thu Apr 4, 2024 7:22 pm

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Zach Edey can’t guard outside of 7 feet. Maybe not even outside 5 feet. And he can’t stretch anything offensively.

Taking Edey in the lottery, and having it work, would almost require a complete overhaul of modern NBA basketball strategy.

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I’m an Illinois fan. One highlight doesn’t mean anything to me. I have a much deeper well to draw on when it comes to Edey.

As a starter, he is undefeated against Illinois (who have generally been top 20 in that whole timeframe).
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Post#332 » by 2weekswithpay » Thu Apr 4, 2024 7:24 pm

Repeat 3-peat wrote:Based on AKME draft history. Tidjane Salaun fits the profile.


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Maybe not relevant but AK played for the same team Salaun currently plays with.
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Post#333 » by TheSuzerain » Thu Apr 4, 2024 8:13 pm

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Repeat 3-peat wrote:Based on AKME draft history. Tidjane Salaun fits the profile.


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Maybe not relevant but AK played for the same team Salaun currently plays with.

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Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread (Early) 

Post#334 » by DuckIII » Thu Apr 4, 2024 10:04 pm

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I’m an Illinois fan. One highlight doesn’t mean anything to me. I have a much deeper well to draw on when it comes to Edey.

As a starter, he is undefeated against Illinois (who have generally been top 20 in that whole timeframe).


Hard to see how that will benefit his transition to the NBA game, but a fact.
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Post#335 » by madvillian » Thu Apr 4, 2024 10:39 pm

I'd take Edey back of first round, that's about it. He might be a decent 15 minute a guy backup center or maybe a weak starter eventually. Also has probably like a 1/4 chance of being completely unplayable and never gets a 2nd contract in the NBA.
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Post#336 » by TheSuzerain » Thu Apr 4, 2024 11:16 pm

madvillian wrote:I'd take Edey back of first round, that's about it. He might be a decent 15 minute a guy backup center or maybe a weak starter eventually. Also has probably like a 1/4 chance of being completely unplayable and never gets a 2nd contract in the NBA.

I'm pretty sure he's a better basketball player than both Vuc and Drummond right now.
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread (Early) 

Post#337 » by kodo » Thu Apr 4, 2024 11:25 pm

If Edey works anywhere in the NBA, it's probably Chicago.

Defensively, the C is not responsible for dropping back to protect the rim. The C is not responsible to defend ballhandlers out in space. The C is not responsible to defend the P&R, either ballhandler or rollman.

A 1st or 2nd option is to get the ball in the low post and just let the big man go to work, something very few other teams do (usually teams want a lot of movement & screens to free up shooters). We're top 5 in post plays run, we're 30th in running screen plays to free up shooters. A low post guy would want Chicago where he doesn't have to compete with guys shooting 3s.

But still, we're drafting way too high for Edey.
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread (Early) 

Post#338 » by Michael Jackson » Fri Apr 5, 2024 12:58 am

DuckIII wrote:
drosestruts wrote:How is Eddey just not a younger Boban Marjanovic?


Edey is an interior offensive force. He is massive in both the upper and lower body, has very fundamentally sound footwork, solid touch, passes well out of the double and draws free throws at a high rate. He’s not just some random really big guy.

But what I just described, and manning up in the low block on defense, is the end of his value. He is a liability in every other aspect of the game.



He is more skilled than Boban by a good margin. Not sure how useful it is in the NBA, but he will be better than Boban. As mentioned though he has a lot to exploit.
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread (Early) 

Post#339 » by Jcool0 » Fri Apr 5, 2024 3:09 pm

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Post#340 » by Chi town » Fri Apr 5, 2024 3:36 pm

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Chi town wrote:This is the draft to get a C and shooting.

I’ll take Big Z or Edey.

Shepherd, Furphy, Knelt, Walter.

We need two picks inside the top 20.


Think we need two picks inside top 30.

All about that shooting and a big.

Like Tyler Smith and Big Z as bigs. Along with Edey.

Shepherd is showing out and will go top 8.
Knelt is Grayson Allen high volume shooter with great IQ.
Furphy is shooter Caruso at 6’9.
Don’t want Walter.

Want two of the above. These guys would fit great with Coby, Ayo, Caruso, Pat.


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Gimme those Knicks picks at 20 and 24 for our pick. Gladly will take Shannon or Da Silva and Edey.

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