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Post#1861 » by Psubs » Fri Apr 5, 2024 2:16 am

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Mark_83 wrote:With obvious caveats about the quality of competition, Yang put up a career high 32 last week.

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I keep saying he should be a lock with our DET pick.

I like his game so much I wouldn’t even be mad if we took him with the IND pick. He could be the “Sengun” of this draft and he’s taller, a legit C. I just say the DET pick because I never see him mentioned in the 1st rd. But if there’s one player in the draft where people say “how’d they let him fall that far?”, if he can do some of what he’s showing there to me he looks like the steal of the draft.

Who knows?! But that’s why I like him so much as the 1st pick of the 2nd rd. If you miss, no big deal majority of SRPs do or are role players at best. If the team is right about Yang, they could have a star and given his nationality that could be a bigger deal than they realize. I know I’m getting way ahead of myself lol but I find it hard to believe given his skill level that he wouldn’t at minimum be a solid back up C and one with the actual size to bang around in the post with the bigger Cs of the league. He’d be great in the PnR with IQ or Gradey. I really do hope we draft him.


Boom Bust Ivisic. If he was playing in that league he'd probably be putting up 30 ppg, 15 rebs, 10 assists and 10 blocks. Looks like the tallest defender is like 6'8-6'9. Ivisic would look like Wemby in that league.

Yang's comp would be Jontay Porter without the shooting range or sportsbook.
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Post#1862 » by grant101 » Fri Apr 5, 2024 2:30 am

Seems like there's quite the divide with Yang. Many of us are looking at the same highlights and coming away with polar opposite reactions. Really curious to see how his career pans out. Good player/talent projection test case.
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Post#1863 » by Psubs » Fri Apr 5, 2024 2:40 am

grant101 wrote:Seems like there's quite the divide with Yang. Many of us are looking at the same highlights and coming away with polar opposite reactions. Really curious to see how his career pans out. Good player/talent projection test case.


I'd rather draft DJ Burns over Yang. I'd trade down for two 2nd round picks. I guess he's like Glen Davis.

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Japanese Steph Curry...Keisei Tominaga.
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Post#1865 » by Psubs » Fri Apr 5, 2024 3:22 am

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Japanese Steph Curry...Keisei Tominaga.


Japanese Seth Curry...

I'd rather just sign Mac McClung. I think he'd at least be slightly better than JFL.


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Post#1866 » by aminiaturebuddha » Fri Apr 5, 2024 3:25 am

The more I look into Tristan da Silva, the more convinced I become that he'd be an absolutely perfect selection with the Indiana pick.

He's a very good shooter, great cutter, handles well for his size, is a smart and dependable passer, and has the size and mobility to be at least an average defender at the NBA level (and I think he'll probably end up above average because of his positional intelligence).

Just seems like he'd be a perfect fit on the Raptors, and in the system that Darko is implementing. Sure, he's 23, but at some point in draft consideration you just need to ask whether or not a guy can play, and da Silva can definitely do that. I don't really see any significant weaknesses that would hold him back at the next level, and even in the worst case scenario outcome his shooting would still be a useful weapon.

My only worry is that he seems to have been slowly drifting up draft boards all year, and I could see a team like Portland or Chicago grabbing him with their picks before the Indiana one.
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Post#1867 » by Psubs » Fri Apr 5, 2024 3:38 am

aminiaturebuddha wrote:The more I look into Tristan da Silva, the more convinced I become that he'd be an absolutely perfect selection with the Indiana pick.

He's a very good shooter, great cutter, handles well for his size, is a smart and dependable passer, and has the size and mobility to be at least an average defender at the NBA level (and I think he'll probably end up above average because of his positional intelligence).

Just seems like he'd be a perfect fit on the Raptors, and in the system that Darko is implementing. Sure, he's 23, but at some point in draft consideration you just need to ask whether or not a guy can play, and da Silva can definitely do that. I don't really see any significant weaknesses that would hold him back at the next level, and even in the worst case scenario outcome his shooting would still be a useful weapon.

My only worry is that he seems to have been slowly drifting up draft boards all year, and I could see a team like Portland or Chicago grabbing him with their picks before the Indiana one.


Yup, he's a great do everything forward like Ersan Ilyasova that shoots a little better and better handles. Like I mentioned before, like Johnny Furphy 3 years later in his development. Oh, why can't DaSilva be Pascal 2.0 that shoots better? :reporter: I guess doesn't rebound as well but has as much swingman skills as Pascal.

Oh he's from Germany (Brazilian father and German mother). His brother played for Stanford and plays for FC Barcelona, so in the family.



Maaaaaaaaaan, he posts up and used a left-handed hook shot. Nice!!! Ya, Portland should try and get him with the Warriors pick. Hopefully the Pacers rest Haliburton and slide. Maybe Portland goes for more potential with Salaun, who might be a gamble like Kuminga.
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Post#1868 » by RoteSchroder » Fri Apr 5, 2024 8:25 am

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PhilBlackson wrote:
Mark_83 wrote:With obvious caveats about the quality of competition, Yang put up a career high 32 last week.

;pp=ygUWaGFuc2VuIHlhbmcgYmFza2V0YmFsbA%3D%3D


I keep saying he should be a lock with our DET pick.

I like his game so much I wouldn’t even be mad if we took him with the IND pick. He could be the “Sengun” of this draft and he’s taller, a legit C. I just say the DET pick because I never see him mentioned in the 1st rd. But if there’s one player in the draft where people say “how’d they let him fall that far?”, if he can do some of what he’s showing there to me he looks like the steal of the draft.

Who knows?! But that’s why I like him so much as the 1st pick of the 2nd rd. If you miss, no big deal majority of SRPs do or are role players at best. If the team is right about Yang, they could have a star and given his nationality that could be a bigger deal than they realize. I know I’m getting way ahead of myself lol but I find it hard to believe given his skill level that he wouldn’t at minimum be a solid back up C and one with the actual size to bang around in the post with the bigger Cs of the league. He’d be great in the PnR with IQ or Gradey. I really do hope we draft him.


Boom Bust Ivisic. If he was playing in that league he'd probably be putting up 30 ppg, 15 rebs, 10 assists and 10 blocks. Looks like the tallest defender is like 6'8-6'9. Ivisic would look like Wemby in that league.

Yang's comp would be Jontay Porter without the shooting range or sportsbook.


Full games of the U19 World Cup are on YouTube. Sarr couldn’t do anything against Hansen in 1v1 match-ups. Hansen also swatted the one-trick pony Cody Williams multiple times.

Ivisic still needs to learn how to play b-ball. If you look at Ivisic highlights, all his shots are created for him. All his blocks are when he’s already standing deep in the circle. Not that impressive. May make for an elite role player if he ever learns the game, but he’s not winning any match-ups against any decent prospect any time soon.

Yang has his weaknesses (TO’s, stamina/agility, running the floor, P/R D), but he can ball.
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Post#1869 » by RoteSchroder » Fri Apr 5, 2024 8:45 am

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Mark_83 wrote:With obvious caveats about the quality of competition, Yang put up a career high 32 last week.

;pp=ygUWaGFuc2VuIHlhbmcgYmFza2V0YmFsbA%3D%3D


Yang looks slow to me and I swear he travels on his post moves like half the time. More importantly, he does not look like an 18 year old…


Don’t think I’ve seen a single travel, it’s just footwork. He’s got a bit of a baby face, so look closer.

He doesn’t look slow, he IS slow, but that hasn’t really stopped him from blocking/altering a ton of shots. Averaged the highest number of blocks in the U19, twice as much as the 2nd place guy.

He drove past Sarr multiple times in their match-up, using his size/strength to put Sarr on his hip. Sarr couldn’t guard him at all. The match-ups Yang will struggle with offensively are against the Embiid’s/Jokic’s imo. Cause he likes using his strength and size to get deep position in the paint and usually his moves are going towards the paint. His finesse + perimeter game needs more development.
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Post#1870 » by UnbelievablyRAW » Fri Apr 5, 2024 8:45 am

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T-d0t wrote:Castle that high though?

smart teams draft defense.

in this draft, I could see him going top-5 for sure.
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Pick didn't make sense at the time either. Mitchell is like 6'1-3 with a short wingspan. Him being a good POA defender shouldn't have been enough of a sell because at that size you're useless unless youre some elite Ja level athlete or you're a shooter.

Castle at least has his size going for him because he can credibly guard 1-3 at 6'6, maybe even some 4's depending on their strength.
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Post#1871 » by UnbelievablyRAW » Fri Apr 5, 2024 8:48 am

I would offer Yang a deal as an undrafted player but I wouldn't take him with the 31st pick

I do like his IQ and general game though. If he ended up being a Sengun type I wouldn't be too shocked given his style of play
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Post#1872 » by Raptorfan2012 » Fri Apr 5, 2024 1:12 pm

UnbelievablyRAW wrote:I would offer Yang a deal as an undrafted player but I wouldn't take him with the 31st pick

I do like his IQ and general game though. If he ended up being a Sengun type I wouldn't be too shocked given his style of play


I have yet to see Yang mocked in any of the main mock drafts - does he even want to come play ball in the NBA? I think he rather stay in China than take on a minimum contract here in the NBA.
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Post#1873 » by BoyzNTheHood » Fri Apr 5, 2024 1:37 pm

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UnbelievablyRAW wrote:I would offer Yang a deal as an undrafted player but I wouldn't take him with the 31st pick

I do like his IQ and general game though. If he ended up being a Sengun type I wouldn't be too shocked given his style of play


I have yet to see Yang mocked in any of the main mock drafts - does he even want to come play ball in the NBA? I think he rather stay in China than take on a minimum contract here in the NBA.

He has to buy himself out of the contract he’s under
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Post#1874 » by tecumseh18 » Fri Apr 5, 2024 1:47 pm

UnbelievablyRAW wrote:I would offer Yang a deal as an undrafted player but I wouldn't take him with the 31st pick

I do like his IQ and general game though. If he ended up being a Sengun type I wouldn't be too shocked given his style of play


I always remember Fran Frascilla's analysis of Sengun in a pre-draft 2021 podcast. He was very high on him, and noted what a surprisingly strong kid he was. As we are seeing with Gradey, strength really matters in this league, particularly on defence. So that would be my question about Yang.

OTOH, in that same podcast, Fran wasn't high on Franz Wagner AT ALL. As always, the message is that scouting 18-19 year olds is hard.
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Post#1875 » by DG88 » Fri Apr 5, 2024 2:05 pm

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aminiaturebuddha wrote:The more I look into Tristan da Silva, the more convinced I become that he'd be an absolutely perfect selection with the Indiana pick.

He's a very good shooter, great cutter, handles well for his size, is a smart and dependable passer, and has the size and mobility to be at least an average defender at the NBA level (and I think he'll probably end up above average because of his positional intelligence).

Just seems like he'd be a perfect fit on the Raptors, and in the system that Darko is implementing. Sure, he's 23, but at some point in draft consideration you just need to ask whether or not a guy can play, and da Silva can definitely do that. I don't really see any significant weaknesses that would hold him back at the next level, and even in the worst case scenario outcome his shooting would still be a useful weapon.

My only worry is that he seems to have been slowly drifting up draft boards all year, and I could see a team like Portland or Chicago grabbing him with their picks before the Indiana one.


Yup, he's a great do everything forward like Ersan Ilyasova that shoots a little better and better handles. Like I mentioned before, like Johnny Furphy 3 years later in his development. Oh, why can't DaSilva be Pascal 2.0 that shoots better? :reporter: I guess doesn't rebound as well but has as much swingman skills as Pascal.

Oh he's from Germany (Brazilian father and German mother). His brother played for Stanford and plays for FC Barcelona, so in the family.



Maaaaaaaaaan, he posts up and used a left-handed hook shot. Nice!!! Ya, Portland should try and get him with the Warriors pick. Hopefully the Pacers rest Haliburton and slide. Maybe Portland goes for more potential with Salaun, who might be a gamble like Kuminga.

He's one player that I liked earlier when I was looking at prospects for our later picks this draft. He's solid and he fits perfectly in Darko's system of 0.5 offense.
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Post#1876 » by MEDIC » Fri Apr 5, 2024 2:35 pm

aminiaturebuddha wrote:The more I look into Tristan da Silva, the more convinced I become that he'd be an absolutely perfect selection with the Indiana pick.

He's a very good shooter, great cutter, handles well for his size, is a smart and dependable passer, and has the size and mobility to be at least an average defender at the NBA level (and I think he'll probably end up above average because of his positional intelligence).

Just seems like he'd be a perfect fit on the Raptors, and in the system that Darko is implementing. Sure, he's 23, but at some point in draft consideration you just need to ask whether or not a guy can play, and da Silva can definitely do that. I don't really see any significant weaknesses that would hold him back at the next level, and even in the worst case scenario outcome his shooting would still be a useful weapon.

My only worry is that he seems to have been slowly drifting up draft boards all year, and I could see a team like Portland or Chicago grabbing him with their picks before the Indiana one.


Yeah, I noticed him early in the tournament. Definitely has an NBA game & NBA length. Very skilled. I always thought he would be a good pick with 31, but I assume he will be gone by then. Definitely worth a look with the Pacers pick.

I don't mind the idea of taking older players that fit with the age group of this core. They will pick things up faster & be NBA ready by end of season. It's a much better situation for this group, rather than having to wait 3 years for some young kid to develop.
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Post#1877 » by LBJKB24MJ23 » Fri Apr 5, 2024 2:37 pm

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UnbelievablyRAW wrote:I would offer Yang a deal as an undrafted player but I wouldn't take him with the 31st pick

I do like his IQ and general game though. If he ended up being a Sengun type I wouldn't be too shocked given his style of play


I always remember Fran Frascilla's analysis of Sengun in a pre-draft 2021 podcast. He was very high on him, and noted what a surprisingly strong kid he was. As we are seeing with Gradey, strength really matters in this league, particularly on defence. So that would be my question about Yang.

OTOH, in that same podcast, Fran wasn't high on Franz Wagner AT ALL. As always, the message is that scouting 18-19 year olds is hard.


i mean its pretty hard to gauge young players in general for the most part. how many players actually stay in the NBA after a few years/ rookie contract expire? its mostly a mental thing that click for some right away, some maybe later in their career, and for some/most, don't.

on the note of Franz - he is kinda like a Tobias Harris type of player. maybe to be a destined role player, fringe all star at his best. will get paid though.
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Post#1878 » by grant101 » Fri Apr 5, 2024 2:52 pm

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UnbelievablyRAW wrote:I would offer Yang a deal as an undrafted player but I wouldn't take him with the 31st pick

I do like his IQ and general game though. If he ended up being a Sengun type I wouldn't be too shocked given his style of play


I have yet to see Yang mocked in any of the main mock drafts - does he even want to come play ball in the NBA? I think he rather stay in China than take on a minimum contract here in the NBA.

He has to buy himself out of the contract he’s under


This seems to be the case. I think most assume he won't come out this year. If there's a chance to convince him by promising a first round pick, I like him more than most of the other options likely to be there at the Pacers pick. Would be torn if Collier is still available though..

Folks are really sleeping on how big, tall and young Yang is. Just imagine him in after 3 years of maturing and NBA conditioning! You can tell he reads the game at a very high level, is quick to the ball on defence (in the paint at least) and his jumper looks good as well (I think he becomes a 3-pt threat in time). Big fan.
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