Official Summer 2024 Magic Free Agency and Trade Ideas Thread 4.0

[cedric76]

KCP would be a very nice pickup

I think so too

Great vet with playoff and title experience, Can play great D and shoot 3s

Perfect fit and shouldn't cost more than 20M per year, it ll be very expensive for Denver to keep him

[Jiwol]

KCP would be a very nice pickup

I think so too

Great vet with playoff and title experience, Can play great D and shoot 3s

Perfect fit and shouldn't cost more than 20M per year, it ll be very expensive for Denver to keep him

And nevertheless your precious Jett would be a starter at some point, ain't he? Lol

[Rainwater]

I would probably lean towards Russell over Monk. Better shooter and probably would come cheaper because he's a little older.

The Lakers do not want to lose him.

However, I am not sure if the Lakers have bird rights.

Not sure if he signed an extension or a new contract with a player option after 1 year.

As we found out with Goga, a new contract requires 3 years for full bird rights.

I am pretty sure an extension maintains the Lakers bird rights and they can sign him to more money.

Without bird rights, they will have to sign him under the cap, which is not going to happen.

It’s been widely reported the Lakers want a 3rd star. Unless they don’t get that third Russell is gone.

[jezzerinho]

KCP would be a very nice pickup

I think so too

Great vet with playoff and title experience, Can play great D and shoot 3s

Perfect fit and shouldn't cost more than 20M per year, it ll be very expensive for Denver to keep him

Low volume offensive player, doesnt get to the line, doesnt move the ball well, v low usage overall. They sent us G Harris and basically replaced him with his doppelganger. Useful player but im not sure its what we need. AB would probably give us a lot of what KCP does by middle next season. What we need is someone who generates spacing, profits from PB/FW's gravity and aids ball movement. Who can work on- and off-ball. My opinion anyway.

[basketballRob]

I'm thinking we see 4 new rotation players next season. My picks:

Out -> WCJ, Harris, Ingles, and Fultz
In -> Claxton, Kyle Anderson, AB, Jett

I think only Fultz would be gone and replaced by KCP, Kennard, Allen, or Monk at around the same salary. AB and Jett will have to win minutes again next season.

I lean more towards KCP and keep Harris because they're older, and AB and Jett could eventually take over for them.

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[MartinsIzAfraud]

I would probably lean towards Russell over Monk. Better shooter and probably would come cheaper because he's a little older.

The Lakers do not want to lose him.

However, I am not sure if the Lakers have bird rights.

Not sure if he signed an extension or a new contract with a player option after 1 year.

As we found out with Goga, a new contract requires 3 years for full bird rights.

I am pretty sure an extension maintains the Lakers bird rights and they can sign him to more money.

Without bird rights, they will have to sign him under the cap, which is not going to happen.

It’s been widely reported the Lakers want a 3rd star. Unless they don’t get that third Russell is gone.

LA has his bird rights but they’re not that far from 2nd tax apron.

Russell also knows he’s only in LA until they can get that 3rd star. Do you think he wants to stay in a place he’s out the second they can replace him. If he really wants out he can work with whatever team to make the first year as big as possible to force lakers

[Skybox]

You are just wrong bruh

Wendell is one of the best paint defenders in the league and provides more offense than Claxton would. Our 24th ranked offense would be even worse with Claxton.

You mention rim protection, how do you define rim protection? Because Isaac does a pretty good job of blocking shots and so do our guards, Wendell, forwards, etc.

You say we have a *TOTAL* lack of rim protection which is not even true.

And even so simply blocking shots is not reason enough to acquire a guy, just because he blocks shots. Why don't we trade for Bamba then?

Isaac plays half the game (at most) and usually at the 3, creating havoc on the perimeter…I think Isaac should play at Center- but he doesn’t. Claxton has zero in common with Bamba

Bruh

Uhm, Isaac has more blocks per 36 than either Goga or Claxton and he ain't getting those standing out on the perimeter.

He is only out on the perimeter because he has generational defensive talent, but he is an elite rim protector, much better than Claxton.

Make the argument that he does not stay healthy enough to help the team (can't protect the rim in the rehab center) and that works.

But trying to make the argument that he is not a rim protector while in the game is no where close to being accurate.

Uhm...per 36 is what you use for a guy who plays 15.5 mpg (in a "healthy" season). Isaac is the best defender in the league, imo. Two great defenders in the frontcourt rotation would be better than 1. Personally, I have stumped for Isaac at C...but that's not where he plays 90% of the time. I'm not being critical of Isaac-who is generational defensively-but keep per 36 out of any legit comparison with a starter. Bamba was the Per 36 World Champ until he got meaningful minutes. Most of Isaac's blocks are chase downs (not all). Claxton plays as a legit full-time C, so his 2+ blocks per game (not per 36) also indicate a deterrent presence in the paint - like everyone is looking over their shoulder for him around the rim.

Imagine the 2 of them, with Suggs and Black (or, ideally, DeJounte Murray)...terrifying. PG is where we need scoring, not WCJ's pump fakes on the perimeter.

[JoshuaPotter]

I'm thinking we see 4 new rotation players next season. My picks:

Out -> WCJ, Harris, Ingles, and Fultz
In -> Claxton, Kyle Anderson, AB, Jett

Serious question... do you actually watch Claxton or are you just looking at stats?

Only when he plays us, mostly stats.

I think that's like a -7 win team

WCJ vs Claxton
Kyle vs Ingles
Harris vs Jett
Fultz vs AB

And you think the team drops 7 games? Good lord

I need more support

Here I am!



Drop -7 games? What in the actual bleepy bleep bleep.

The absolute worst comment I can think of is Ingles absence might cost us a couple that we hopefully gain back with net zero production from Fultz to Black.

I get it, some posters here are homers for certain players and some are polar opposites. -7 with perhaps a lock for 1st defensive team?

OK, let's pretend that

1 ) Management isn't prioritizing defense. - They are even if they did sign Ingles
2 ) Management didn't shop Fultz + WCJ - This is wildly accepted

Do we really think Fultz + WCJ for Dlo was the missing piece we were trying to nab?

[cedric76]

KCP would be a very nice pickup

I think so too

Great vet with playoff and title experience, Can play great D and shoot 3s

Perfect fit and shouldn't cost more than 20M per year, it ll be very expensive for Denver to keep him

And nevertheless your precious Jett would be a starter at some point, ain't he? Lol

Long season, injuries, time management, yes Jett will start some games next season

Learning being kcp can only help Jett

[JoshuaPotter]

I think so too

Great vet with playoff and title experience, Can play great D and shoot 3s

Perfect fit and shouldn't cost more than 20M per year, it ll be very expensive for Denver to keep him

And nevertheless your precious Jett would be a starter at some point, ain't he? Lol

Long season, injuries, time management, yes Jett will start some games next season

Learning being kcp can only help Jett

Why are people saying "your precious Jett"....

What do they know cedric76? WHAT...DO...THEY..KNOW...?

This place man.

[eyriq]

Serious question... do you actually watch Claxton or are you just looking at stats?

Only when he plays us, mostly stats.

I think that's like a -7 win team

WCJ vs Claxton
Kyle vs Ingles
Harris vs Jett
Fultz vs AB

And you think the team drops 7 games? Good lord

I need more support

Here I am!



Drop -7 games? What in the actual bleepy bleep bleep.

The absolute worst comment I can think of is Ingles absence might cost us a couple that we hopefully gain back with net zero production from Fultz to Black.

I get it, some posters here are homers for certain players and some are polar opposites. -7 with perhaps a lock for 1st defensive team?

OK, let's pretend that

1 ) Management isn't prioritizing defense. - They are even if they did sign Ingles
2 ) Management didn't shop Fultz + WCJ - This is wildly accepted

Do we really think Fultz + WCJ for Dlo was the missing piece we were trying to nab?

Whoop there it is!!!

[davey_wavy]

I’d like to keep Gary around. Good defender, can shoot the 3 OK, and the guys like him.

This whole replace him with Jett or whatever is dumb. Jett will be a bust sooner than later

[cedric76]

I’d like to keep Gary around. Good defender, can shoot the 3 OK, and the guys like him.

This whole replace him with Jett or whatever is dumb. Jett will be a bust sooner than later

Jett will make you eat Crows

[JoshuaPotter]

Whoop there it is!!!

This is definitely directed at @knightro

I get it. He is concerned we are a paper tiger. Next year he thinks it is very possible we have a worse record then whatever this year is come end of season. Sure, it's possible we don't do as well next year.

So this is kinda a call out. If this squad puts us -7 games down from this year...how many games down were you thinking we would be down to begin with.

Can't say we are going to be worse next year, then start throwing random numbers out because you just don't like personnel adjustments proposed anyway.

[eyriq]

Whoop there it is!!!

This is definitely directed at @knightro

I get it. He is concerned we are a paper tiger. Next year he thinks it is very possible we have a worse record then whatever this year is come end of season. Sure, it's possible we don't do as well next year.

So this is kinda a call out. If this squad puts us -7 games down from this year...how many games down were you thinking we would be down to begin with.

Can't say we are going to be worse next year, then start throwing random numbers out because you just don't like personnel adjustments proposed anyway.

I'm not even worried about offense.

The goal should be to maintain a top 3 defense and improve ball control. The focus on shooting is a distraction. Lower turnovers is where it's at. Paolo, Franz, Moe, and Cole can continue to be our offensive engine, just need to reduce turnovers.

[JoshuaPotter]

Whoop there it is!!!

This is definitely directed at @knightro

I get it. He is concerned we are a paper tiger. Next year he thinks it is very possible we have a worse record then whatever this year is come end of season. Sure, it's possible we don't do as well next year.

So this is kinda a call out. If this squad puts us -7 games down from this year...how many games down were you thinking we would be down to begin with.

Can't say we are going to be worse next year, then start throwing random numbers out because you just don't like personnel adjustments proposed anyway.

I'm not even worried about offense.

The goal should be to maintain a top 3 defense and improve ball control. The focus on shooting is a distraction. Lower turnovers is where it's at. Paolo, Franz, Moe, and Cole can continue to be our offensive engine, just need to reduce turnovers.

I don't mind the DLo rumors. I just wont believe it until it happens.

Plenty of evidence exists to suggest we were shopping Fultz and or WCJ. This tells apparently just us, that we were willing to give the reigns to Isaac + Goga. (But we were the only one listening for that I guess.)

Edit : It also tells us that this idea that we love WCJ for "spreading the floor" isn't entirely true at all.

Ergo, why is it such a stress to think we wouldn't go out and find a better version of Goga in Claxton?

If anything, if you throw in the addition of DLo then a power center like Goga-Claxton-Isaac rotation makes perfect sense.

Edit : For goodness sake, I never said WCJ was useless or a bad deal. I just don't think he works as well within our system as people thinks he does.

[KillMonger]

Hartenstein+tyus Jones.... No need to overthink it

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[thelead]

Hartenstein+tyus Jones.... No need to overthink it

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Jrue Holiday first but in the highly likely event that he turns us down, yes.

[RookieStar]

Hartenstein+tyus Jones.... No need to overthink it

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Hope we can lure him but that recent Realgm headline says he is staying in NY

[CocoaFan]

I would probably lean towards Russell over Monk. Better shooter and probably would come cheaper because he's a little older.

Lakers have full bird rights. He's going to be tough to pry away if he keeps playing the way he has been.

Where did you see this?

I could not find it anywhere.

Just Googled "Do Lakers have Full Bird rights on D'Angelo Russell" and different articles popped up stating it.