Pacers Pick Tracking (Update: #19 officially)

[RoteSchroder]

Think my point was pretty clear to anyone (maybe not you) that wants to use injuries as an excuse as to why we sucked this year lol.

I think it is pretty indisputable to bring up injuries for this teams current iteration.

Our starting lineup of IQ/RJ/Barnes/Poeltl has played literally 234 minutes together over 14 games (7-7) and that was with tons of player movement going on and what not every 2 games it felt like. Pretty sure at least one of those games was the one Scottie got hurt and barely played to.

Like we are bad - but far from 23-58 bad or whatever we even are at this point

Only the Raptors fanbase will talk about a Poeltl injury when other teams are missing guys like Embiid/Maxey, OG/Randle, Jamal Murray, Towns, etc.

I totally agree we are not 23-58 bad but we also aren't much better than that. This team was the 7th worst team in the nba even when at full strength. There is a legit argument we can be the 7th worst team in the nba again unless there are MAJOR improvements this offseason.

Well, my point that your man, Ed Rogers, just made up a fake stat.

So unless you want to say that the Raps went 8-14 fully healthy, despite Poeltl only playing in 14 games, then there’s no point in replying to me, because I have no other point.

[Scase]

Poeltl only played in 14 games after the Siakam trade where they went 6-8. In two of those losses RJ was out. Scottie got injured in a 3rd loss against GSW. Meaning we went 6-5 without injuries.

After the OG trade, Raptors were 3-1 with the new group + Siakam before a Poeltl injury. Bringing us to 9-6.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/poeltja01/gamelog/2024

Edward Rogers just straight up lying with those stats , I’m assuming cause he wants Masai out of the picture.

Sure is a good thing only the Raptors ever deal with injuries right?

And those 6 wins?

CHA
HOU
BRK
ATL
IND
CHA

So again, just like post trade last year, we only beat bad teams, and in this case a single win against the pacers. Oh also the hornets didn't have Lamelo or Hayward, the Rockets didnt have FVV, so I guess by your metrics, those 3 wins don't count. So we went 3-5.

But it's all good, so long as we never have any injuries, and we play primarily sub .500 teams, we might sniff 40 wins.

Not sure why you’re so triggered by a statistical correction. It’s just a fact they went 6-5/9-6.

Don’t let facts get in the way of your feelings.

If they beat all the **** teams, then they’d just be a play-in team. No one said they were amazing or anything, so calm down.

Imagine calling someone else triggered when your "statistical correction" is called out for being cherry picked AF. If losses we suffered are being ignored because we had injuries, then so are the wins when the opponent had injuries. Get out of here with this biased crap lmao.

[Psubs]

65 games and the Pacers assist record in a season for Hali. Time to rest.

[LoveMyRaps]

It'll come down to tomorrow's Heat vs. Pacers game.

[RoteSchroder]

Sure is a good thing only the Raptors ever deal with injuries right?

And those 6 wins?

CHA
HOU
BRK
ATL
IND
CHA

So again, just like post trade last year, we only beat bad teams, and in this case a single win against the pacers. Oh also the hornets didn't have Lamelo or Hayward, the Rockets didnt have FVV, so I guess by your metrics, those 3 wins don't count. So we went 3-5.

But it's all good, so long as we never have any injuries, and we play primarily sub .500 teams, we might sniff 40 wins.

Not sure why you’re so triggered by a statistical correction. It’s just a fact they went 6-5/9-6.

Don’t let facts get in the way of your feelings.

If they beat all the **** teams, then they’d just be a play-in team. No one said they were amazing or anything, so calm down.

Imagine calling someone else triggered when your "statistical correction" is called out for being cherry picked AF. If losses we suffered are being ignored because we had injuries, then so are the wins when the opponent had injuries. Get out of here with this biased crap lmao.

Someone said we went 6-11 fully healthy after the Siakam trade.

Poeltl only played 14 games after the Siakam trade. So you explain to me how we went 6-11 fully healthy?

How is that called “cherry picking” when someone else set up the conditions? Genius

[Scase]

Not sure why you’re so triggered by a statistical correction. It’s just a fact they went 6-5/9-6.

Don’t let facts get in the way of your feelings.

If they beat all the **** teams, then they’d just be a play-in team. No one said they were amazing or anything, so calm down.

Imagine calling someone else triggered when your "statistical correction" is called out for being cherry picked AF. If losses we suffered are being ignored because we had injuries, then so are the wins when the opponent had injuries. Get out of here with this biased crap lmao.

Someone said we went 6-11 fully healthy after the Siakam trade.

Poeltl only played 14 games after the Siakam trade. So you explain to me how we went 6-11 fully healthy?

How is that called “cherry picking” when someone else set up the conditions? Genius

How are you so oblivious to basic logic, you said our loses dont count cause of injuries, then our wins dont either.

[RoteSchroder]

Imagine calling someone else triggered when your "statistical correction" is called out for being cherry picked AF. If losses we suffered are being ignored because we had injuries, then so are the wins when the opponent had injuries. Get out of here with this biased crap lmao.

Someone said we went 6-11 fully healthy after the Siakam trade.

Poeltl only played 14 games after the Siakam trade. So you explain to me how we went 6-11 fully healthy?

How is that called “cherry picking” when someone else set up the conditions? Genius

How are you so oblivious to basic logic, you said our loses dont count cause of injuries, then our wins dont either.

Quote me where I said that.

Here is the first post of the message chain:

raps were what 8-14 with a healthy IQ/RJ/Scottie/Poeltl and 6-11 after the pascal trade and before scottie got hurt.

but don't let facts get in the way at projecting a 40 win season next year

Now you tell me what the record was with a healthy IQ/RJ/Scottie/Poeltl

How the hell can their record be 8-14 when Poeltl only played 18 games post-OG trade

When are u gonna admit that u suck at basic logic

[Tacoma]

Someone said we went 6-11 fully healthy after the Siakam trade.

Poeltl only played 14 games after the Siakam trade. So you explain to me how we went 6-11 fully healthy?

How is that called “cherry picking” when someone else set up the conditions? Genius

How are you so oblivious to basic logic, you said our loses dont count cause of injuries, then our wins dont either.

Quote me where I said that.

Here is the first post of the message chain:

raps were what 8-14 with a healthy IQ/RJ/Scottie/Poeltl and 6-11 after the pascal trade and before scottie got hurt.

but don't let facts get in the way at projecting a 40 win season next year

Now you tell me what the record was with a healthy IQ/RJ/Scottie/Poeltl

How the hell can their record be 8-14 when Poeltl only played 18 games post-OG trade

When are u gonna admit that u suck at basic logic

We were around 8-14 with BBQ playing (before Barnes went down), regardless of Poeltl.

Poeltl is overrated on this board. He was supposed get us into the playoffs last season and failed. This season, up until the the OG trade, we were a dismal 12-20 with Poeltl playing, worse than last season without him. He can't shoot to save his life. If this was 1990's, he'd be ok, but not today and especially not tomorrow when he's in his 30's while BBQ is peaking.

Our core will be how BBQ plays & gels. Yesterday was promising with IQ taking over effectively. Him and Barnes look good as our future leaders. Next year is going to be key to see where BBQ takes us, but I don't see Poeltl in our long term future.

[Syd-TK3]

It'll come down to tomorrow's Heat vs. Pacers game.

Probably the deciding game for who finishes higher

[RoteSchroder]

How are you so oblivious to basic logic, you said our loses dont count cause of injuries, then our wins dont either.

Quote me where I said that.

Here is the first post of the message chain:

raps were what 8-14 with a healthy IQ/RJ/Scottie/Poeltl and 6-11 after the pascal trade and before scottie got hurt.

but don't let facts get in the way at projecting a 40 win season next year

Now you tell me what the record was with a healthy IQ/RJ/Scottie/Poeltl

How the hell can their record be 8-14 when Poeltl only played 18 games post-OG trade

When are u gonna admit that u suck at basic logic

We were around 8-14 with BBQ playing (before Barnes went down), regardless of Poeltl.

Poeltl is overrated on this board. He was supposed get us into the playoffs last season and failed. This season, up until the the OG trade, we were a dismal 12-20 with Poeltl playing, worse than last season without him. He can't shoot to save his life. If this was 1990's, he'd be ok, but not today and especially not tomorrow when he's in his 30's while BBQ is peaking.

Our core will be how BBQ plays & gels. Yesterday was promising with IQ taking over effectively. Him and Barnes look good as our future leaders. Next year is going to be key to see where BBQ takes us, but I don't see Poeltl in our long term future.

Hey Scase, what’s your point?

Ed Rogers said we were 8-14 with BBQ + Poeltl. Was that our record, yes or no.

[ArthurVandelay]

Big day today

Need Heat to come through vs Pacers
Philly over Spurs


For overall standings and draft pick placement, it would be good to see:

Orlando over Bulls
NO over Suns
Kings over Nets
Knicks over Bucks
Lakers over Wolves

[ArthurVandelay]

Embiid out vs Spurs

[LoveMyRaps]

Heat playing awful.

[TheRealDeal]

Pacers up by 14 against the Heat. Not ideal

[LoveMyRaps]

Pacers up by 14 against the Heat. Not ideal

Heat actually suck.

[PD28]

Tyler Herro looking like a poor mans Dick out there

[Syd-TK3]

Yea we can't count on the heat

[GooniesNeverDie]

Miami breaking me right now


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[ArthurVandelay]

Ugh

Miami

[Syd-TK3]

Neither Hali or Siakam are even having that great of games. The heat just can't score a basket