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Re: Official Summer 2024 Magic Free Agency and Trade Ideas Thread 4.0 

Post#241 » by drsd » Mon Apr 8, 2024 7:20 pm

RichCollab wrote:Each win I get the sense of running it back again is more likely.

I don’t see us making a lot of changes. Tops 3 players but I’m going with 2 different players.


I cannot see Orlando bringing back Fultz nor G-Harris without a 50% paycut. And I cannot see the players accepting that level of pay reduction. So: that's minus two.

And there is a zero-point-zero percent chance Okeke returns. So: minus three.

Bitadze would need to be resigned and might become too expensive for Orlando. We will see.

In conclusion: it is not probable Orlando resigns all its FAs. And there is a chance that all four walk.
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Post#242 » by JoshuaPotter » Mon Apr 8, 2024 8:06 pm

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RichCollab wrote:Each win I get the sense of running it back again is more likely.

I don’t see us making a lot of changes. Tops 3 players but I’m going with 2 different players.


I cannot see Orlando bringing back Fultz nor G-Harris without a 50% paycut. And I cannot see the players accepting that level of pay reduction. So: that's minus two.

And there is a zero-point-zero percent chance Okeke returns. So: minus three.

Bitadze would need to be resigned and might become too expensive for Orlando. We will see.

In conclusion: it is not probable Orlando resigns all its FAs. And there is a chance that all four walk.


and + 1

Also we never questioned Fultz ability to walk. Play basketball at an NBA level consistently however. *sarcasm sign.
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Post#243 » by eyriq » Mon Apr 8, 2024 8:34 pm

Best plan I've seen. This guy gets it.

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Post#244 » by JoshuaPotter » Mon Apr 8, 2024 9:01 pm

eyriq wrote:Best plan I've seen. This guy gets it.

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It's pretty simple really. Imagine a fully available G. Harris this season. The win % would be ultra mega paper tiger.
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Post#245 » by basketballRob » Mon Apr 8, 2024 9:03 pm

My guess is they keep Harris and Ingles. They try to retain Goga. The rookie we draft will replace Chuma. Then we'll sign an SG to replace Fultz

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Post#246 » by eyriq » Mon Apr 8, 2024 9:15 pm

basketballRob wrote:My guess is they keep Harris and Ingles. They try to retain Goga. The rookie we draft will replace Chuma. Then we'll sign an SG to replace Fultz

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What about AB and Jett?
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Post#247 » by Skybox » Mon Apr 8, 2024 9:42 pm

Pay cuts are not enough reason to keep a player that isn't good...we already have "bargains". Let's get serious about contending and INVEST in real talent.

I like Ingles but if he can't contribute, he can take his vibes elsewhere or join the coaching staff. People get vet min deals for their "vibe"...btw, I'm not saying he's not a contributor - I just question whether he can continue much longer. There's no "Player Coach" jobs available since the introduction of a salary cap.

AB and Jett will be fine...still undercooked...give them another year before even worrying about giving any unearned PT. They'll get there on whatever timeline they can.
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Post#248 » by basketballRob » Mon Apr 8, 2024 9:55 pm

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basketballRob wrote:My guess is they keep Harris and Ingles. They try to retain Goga. The rookie we draft will replace Chuma. Then we'll sign an SG to replace Fultz

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What about AB and Jett?
They'll compete for minutes.

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Post#249 » by MasterGMer » Tue Apr 9, 2024 1:58 am

Let me ask a unconventional question: James Harden could be a free agent also. Should we take a look at him? Why?
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Post#250 » by fendilim » Tue Apr 9, 2024 3:05 am

MagicMatic wrote:
fendilim wrote:Atheltic is reporting saying us signing Klay is the “worst kept secret”.

I’m excited.

He fits the bill. 6’8”, great shooter and a veteran presence. He’d really space the floor and a great tandem for Suggs at the backcourt.

I’ve been saying all along since last offseason, Suggs is a PG, he is playing really well this season at that position.


Klay is washed. And that’s not really a secret…
he is washed for his role in Golden State as a scorer.

But his role here will simply be floor spacing and veteran leadership.

He is a good rental while we wait for Black to develop into a reliable combo guard. By then we’ll have our own version of Jrue/Derrick White.
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Post#251 » by fendilim » Tue Apr 9, 2024 3:05 am

MasterGMer wrote:Let me ask a unconventional question: James Harden could be a free agent also. Should we take a look at him? Why?

No. James needs the ball.
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Post#252 » by Bensational » Tue Apr 9, 2024 3:08 am

I wonder if our 1st round pick would be enough to get Brogdon in a trade? Perfect interim guard to replace Harris as starter. He can provide now whilst keeping the door open for internal replacement, external replacement the following free agency when his deal is up, or if he works he could be extended for his twilight years.
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Post#253 » by fendilim » Tue Apr 9, 2024 3:13 am

Bensational wrote:I wonder if our 1st round pick would be enough to get Brogdon in a trade? Perfect interim guard to replace Harris as starter. He can provide now whilst keeping the door open for internal replacement, external replacement the following free agency when his deal is up, or if he works he could be extended for his twilight years.

Brogdon would be a good addition. But not sure if our 1st (especially this year’s), be good enough.

Would you guys sign LeBron though? That would mean us drafting Bronny. Business-wise, I think it a good decision. Plus, Paolo can learn a lot from him. Ball doesn’t get stuck in his hands too. I think he’ll even let Paolo takeover, similar to what he make Austin and DLo do.

Downside is, obviously, we’ll be a traveling circus.
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Post#254 » by tiderulz » Tue Apr 9, 2024 3:16 am

fendilim wrote:
Bensational wrote:I wonder if our 1st round pick would be enough to get Brogdon in a trade? Perfect interim guard to replace Harris as starter. He can provide now whilst keeping the door open for internal replacement, external replacement the following free agency when his deal is up, or if he works he could be extended for his twilight years.

Brogdon would be a good addition. But not sure if our 1st (especially this year’s), be good enough.

Would you guys sign LeBron though? That would mean us drafting Bronny. Business-wise, I think it a good decision. Plus, Paolo can learn a lot from him. Ball doesn’t get stuck in his hands too. I think he’ll even let Paolo takeover, similar to what he make Austin and DLo do.

Downside is, obviously, we’ll be a traveling circus.

Brogdon has 1 year left, and is injured yet again. He shouldnt cost much.
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Post#255 » by MasterGMer » Tue Apr 9, 2024 3:44 am

fendilim wrote:
Bensational wrote:I wonder if our 1st round pick would be enough to get Brogdon in a trade? Perfect interim guard to replace Harris as starter. He can provide now whilst keeping the door open for internal replacement, external replacement the following free agency when his deal is up, or if he works he could be extended for his twilight years.

Brogdon would be a good addition. But not sure if our 1st (especially this year’s), be good enough.

Would you guys sign LeBron though? That would mean us drafting Bronny. Business-wise, I think it a good decision. Plus, Paolo can learn a lot from him. Ball doesn’t get stuck in his hands too. I think he’ll even let Paolo takeover, similar to what he make Austin and DLo do.

Downside is, obviously, we’ll be a traveling circus.


Brogdan definitely can help this team. But I want to think bigger, I want a young PG who can come in and be among our young core to compete in the next 3 or 4 years. The list is definitely limited. However, we can definitely explore. What about Tyus Jones? What about DAngelo Russel?
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Post#256 » by Bensational » Tue Apr 9, 2024 3:59 am

MasterGMer wrote:
fendilim wrote:
Bensational wrote:I wonder if our 1st round pick would be enough to get Brogdon in a trade? Perfect interim guard to replace Harris as starter. He can provide now whilst keeping the door open for internal replacement, external replacement the following free agency when his deal is up, or if he works he could be extended for his twilight years.

Brogdon would be a good addition. But not sure if our 1st (especially this year’s), be good enough.

Would you guys sign LeBron though? That would mean us drafting Bronny. Business-wise, I think it a good decision. Plus, Paolo can learn a lot from him. Ball doesn’t get stuck in his hands too. I think he’ll even let Paolo takeover, similar to what he make Austin and DLo do.

Downside is, obviously, we’ll be a traveling circus.


Brogdan definitely can help this team. But I want to think bigger, I want a young PG who can come in and be among our young core to compete in the next 3 or 4 years. The list is definitely limited. However, we can definitely explore. What about Tyus Jones? What about DAngelo Russel?


That’s why I’m thinking Brogdon, because it would allow us to explore next season’s FA class which might have better options.

LeBron would be a great mentor for Paolo, but he’d probably also mentor him in the business of the league and encourage Paolo to pursue his own interests.
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Post#257 » by VFX » Tue Apr 9, 2024 4:51 am

fendilim wrote:
MagicMatic wrote:
fendilim wrote:Atheltic is reporting saying us signing Klay is the “worst kept secret”.

I’m excited.

He fits the bill. 6’8”, great shooter and a veteran presence. He’d really space the floor and a great tandem for Suggs at the backcourt.

I’ve been saying all along since last offseason, Suggs is a PG, he is playing really well this season at that position.


Klay is washed. And that’s not really a secret…
he is washed for his role in Golden State as a scorer.

But his role here will simply be floor spacing and veteran leadership.

He is a good rental while we wait for Black to develop into a reliable combo guard. By then we’ll have our own version of Jrue/Derrick White.


I agree with your reasoning, but I don’t think that player is Klay.

Orlando needs someone to run an actual offense. I’ve never understood this idea that some elite volume catch and shoot SG is what this team is missing.

The Magic already have a ton of scoring options. The issue is getting their scorers into better spots on the floor. A guy like Klay is 1 total outlet. Getting a guy like Jrue, FVV, or Brogdon makes everyone a better outlet.

I’m even fine with someone like Delon Wright, Tyus Jones, or Monte Morris as filler. It doesn’t even need to be some splashy acquisition. Just someone that can set the table for Paolo and Franz while we wait for AB to take over.
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Post#258 » by fendilim » Tue Apr 9, 2024 7:39 am

MasterGMer wrote:
fendilim wrote:
Bensational wrote:I wonder if our 1st round pick would be enough to get Brogdon in a trade? Perfect interim guard to replace Harris as starter. He can provide now whilst keeping the door open for internal replacement, external replacement the following free agency when his deal is up, or if he works he could be extended for his twilight years.

Brogdon would be a good addition. But not sure if our 1st (especially this year’s), be good enough.

Would you guys sign LeBron though? That would mean us drafting Bronny. Business-wise, I think it a good decision. Plus, Paolo can learn a lot from him. Ball doesn’t get stuck in his hands too. I think he’ll even let Paolo takeover, similar to what he make Austin and DLo do.

Downside is, obviously, we’ll be a traveling circus.


Brogdan definitely can help this team. But I want to think bigger, I want a young PG who can come in and be among our young core to compete in the next 3 or 4 years. The list is definitely limited. However, we can definitely explore. What about Tyus Jones? What about DAngelo Russel?
tyus is the starting pg of one of the worst teams in the league.

Suggs is starting pg for one of the best teams in the league. This team needs an sg tbh. Point guard isnt really a need
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Post#259 » by zaymon » Tue Apr 9, 2024 10:43 am

fendilim wrote:
MasterGMer wrote:
fendilim wrote:Brogdon would be a good addition. But not sure if our 1st (especially this year’s), be good enough.

Would you guys sign LeBron though? That would mean us drafting Bronny. Business-wise, I think it a good decision. Plus, Paolo can learn a lot from him. Ball doesn’t get stuck in his hands too. I think he’ll even let Paolo takeover, similar to what he make Austin and DLo do.

Downside is, obviously, we’ll be a traveling circus.


Brogdan definitely can help this team. But I want to think bigger, I want a young PG who can come in and be among our young core to compete in the next 3 or 4 years. The list is definitely limited. However, we can definitely explore. What about Tyus Jones? What about DAngelo Russel?
tyus is the starting pg of one of the worst teams in the league.

Suggs is starting pg for one of the best teams in the league. This team needs an sg tbh. Point guard isnt really a need


Suggs is point guard from when ? We dont have starting point guard we have two starting sg's and Paolo/Franz who try to run offense, but cant separate from quicker defenders.
We need quicker player to run pick and roll, beat players off the dribble and force favorable switches.

I am really intrigued by Dangelo. We can get him for free, he is crafty ball handler what we need the most right now. We have a ton of turnovers becouse both Franz and Paolo are not good enough handlers.
If we can get Russell on 2+1 we can offer him a max or close to max. Getting him and Hartenstein without using assets would be equal to having top 5 lottery pick.

Russell/Suggs/Wagner/Banchero/Hartenstein
Plus ton of assets.
I like this team.
My money is on Banchero going number 1 !
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Post#260 » by Bergmaniac » Tue Apr 9, 2024 12:03 pm

drsd wrote:
RichCollab wrote:Each win I get the sense of running it back again is more likely.

I don’t see us making a lot of changes. Tops 3 players but I’m going with 2 different players.


I cannot see Orlando bringing back Fultz nor G-Harris without a 50% paycut. And I cannot see the players accepting that level of pay reduction. So: that's minus two.

Why wouldn't Fultz accept a 8 mln. per year salary after the disaster of a season he had? I doubt any team would offer him more than the vet minimum, if that, unless he has miracle playoffs out of the blue.

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