(LOCK THREAD) The LeBron James- 23-24 NBA Thread - 40K POINTS+(Part 1)(NO INSULTING)

[TroubleS0me]

Owner's fault. If your pockets aren't deep enough to change a coach this out of his depth you don't need a sports team you should move to real estate. That IST trophy may have turned out to be the worst thing to happen.

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[trickshot]

Owner's fault. If your pockets aren't deep enough to change a coach this out of his depth you don't need a sports team you should move to real estate. That IST trophy may have turned out to be the worst thing to happen.

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And it's not like he just started sucking yesterday. Even the cindarella playoff run from last season was loaded with Ham making games harder than they should have been. Lakers 3pt defense looks like doing the wrong thing on purpose. It's not even about the numbers anymore, it's about the horrific timing of these gameplan mistakes. Overhelping and undersized lineups is like wanting to cancel out your one strength.

[rk2023]

Just a killer. And yes, playoff, or big game DLO, seems to be a real thing. He just disappears almost every single time. It's why I just could never get excited about him, even when he put that great stretch together. Plus, there is his defense. The Lakers really are a bad organization from the top on down. And as a Lebron fan, it sucks he's hitched his wagon to them, but oh well. As I've said before, I'm just going to enjoy this greatness as long as it goes on.

There’s nothing to enjoy lmfao

Who the **** cares about his greatness and unprecedented stuff for this age when it’s proven to be mostly moot from a playoff success standpoint?

I’m not even hating, as this is never before seen stuff for the age and obv James is the GOAT.. but there’s just nothing to enjoy about this recent stretch of play - I can’t wait for him to hang it up if there’s no serious title contention in play. I wouldn’t really give a **** to see him in NY or Philly either - just seems like he’s playing the journeyman role at that point

[IG2]

Also, as well as DLo has played, playoffs DLo showed up in the two crucial games. I have zero confidence that he can deliver in the play-ins/playoffs.

He shines when the games feel loose and carefree. The moment the physicality ramps up and execution takes greater importance on each possession, he falls apart. He can't really create off the dribble against physicality and he's just way too erratic mentally to make good decisions with the pressure on. Let's not even get into his defense.

DLo should never be a key player on a team that's serious about winning.

[LeBird]

Owner's fault. If your pockets aren't deep enough to change a coach this out of his depth you don't need a sports team you should move to real estate. That IST trophy may have turned out to be the worst thing to happen.

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At this point they should just make LeBron player/coach.

[Heej]

Owner's fault. If your pockets aren't deep enough to change a coach this out of his depth you don't need a sports team you should move to real estate. That IST trophy may have turned out to be the worst thing to happen.

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This is incredibly bad. Like I didn't realize it was this hopeless. Honestly the kinda stuff that if it's been going on all season and never dealt with then the ownership group itself needs to go

[Heej]

Just a killer. And yes, playoff, or big game DLO, seems to be a real thing. He just disappears almost every single time. It's why I just could never get excited about him, even when he put that great stretch together. Plus, there is his defense. The Lakers really are a bad organization from the top on down. And as a Lebron fan, it sucks he's hitched his wagon to them, but oh well. As I've said before, I'm just going to enjoy this greatness as long as it goes on.

There’s nothing to enjoy lmfao

Who the **** cares about his greatness and unprecedented stuff for this age when it’s proven to be mostly moot from a playoff success standpoint?

I’m not even hating, as this is never before seen stuff for the age and obv James is the GOAT.. but there’s just nothing to enjoy about this recent stretch of play - I can’t wait for him to hang it up if there’s no serious title contention in play. I wouldn’t really give a **** to see him in NY or Philly either - just seems like he’s playing the journeyman role at that point

This is what happens when you take rangz arguments too seriously.

[rk2023]

Just a killer. And yes, playoff, or big game DLO, seems to be a real thing. He just disappears almost every single time. It's why I just could never get excited about him, even when he put that great stretch together. Plus, there is his defense. The Lakers really are a bad organization from the top on down. And as a Lebron fan, it sucks he's hitched his wagon to them, but oh well. As I've said before, I'm just going to enjoy this greatness as long as it goes on.

There’s nothing to enjoy lmfao

Who the **** cares about his greatness and unprecedented stuff for this age when it’s proven to be mostly moot from a playoff success standpoint?

I’m not even hating, as this is never before seen stuff for the age and obv James is the GOAT.. but there’s just nothing to enjoy about this recent stretch of play - I can’t wait for him to hang it up if there’s no serious title contention in play. I wouldn’t really give a **** to see him in NY or Philly either - just seems like he’s playing the journeyman role at that point

This is what happens when you take rangz arguments too seriously.

I don’t even subscribe to such thinking (I said it’s clear enough opinion for me that he’s the top career all time). And don’t get me wrong, being a T-10 player (perhaps higher) at this age is obscenely impressive.

But this team, which includes James, has taken every single bit of enjoyment away from that - it just feels lost and meaningless due to all the context getting lost in history; and that would be the case even if he was as good as someone like Jokic right now with the same W/L.

Wouldn’t it be further proof of not caring about rangz if I am explicitly disgusted by the thought of him playing as a Knick or 76er? It just feels like a very weird side quest at this point of career. I just want Bron to retire at this point, what the **** else does he have to prove?

[Heej]

There’s nothing to enjoy lmfao

Who the **** cares about his greatness and unprecedented stuff for this age when it’s proven to be mostly moot from a playoff success standpoint?

I’m not even hating, as this is never before seen stuff for the age and obv James is the GOAT.. but there’s just nothing to enjoy about this recent stretch of play - I can’t wait for him to hang it up if there’s no serious title contention in play. I wouldn’t really give a **** to see him in NY or Philly either - just seems like he’s playing the journeyman role at that point

This is what happens when you take rangz arguments too seriously.

I don’t even subscribe to such thinking (I said it’s clear enough opinion for me that he’s the top career all time). And don’t get me wrong, being a T-10 player (perhaps higher) at this age is obscenely impressive.

But this team, which includes James, has taken every single bit of enjoyment away from that - it just feels lost and meaningless due to all the context getting lost in history; and that would be the case even if he was as good as someone like Jokic right now with the same W/L.

Wouldn’t it be further proof of not caring about rangz if I am explicitly disgusted by the thought of him playing as a Knick or 76er? It just feels like a very weird side quest at this point of career. I just want Bron to retire at this point, what the **** else does he have to prove?

Oh I'm not saying you subscribe to it. But all this talk about how his playoff appearances have been a waste and all that imo stems from taking rangz clowns too seriously and letting those idiots color your perception of what's valuable as a fan.

[nzahir]

Are we rooting for the kings or pels tomorrow?

[ardee]

Well looks like Denver will finish 1st in the West.

If the Lakers don't get in the top half of the play-in bracket and win the first play-in game, getting to 7 as a result, the season is over pretty much.

[ardee]

And for the talk of where LeBron should go next, I agree somewhere like Philly would just not be good from a narrative sense.

I 100% think he should go back to Cleveland for the final two years of his career, saw Pierce talking about it.

Obviously they're in a bit of a funk now with Mitchell missing a bunch of games but the team was 35-16 to start the year. Even if they just trade Mitchell for LeBron and then add one more piece, that is a legit contender and the most fairytale ending possible to his career if he can win one more with them.

Worth mentioning it would also mirror the path his buddy Wade took, returning home for the final years.

[TheGOATRises007]

Doubt LeBron goes back to Cleveland. All reports indicate he wants to retire as a Laker.

The Lakers wasted a season or 2 of contention with the botched Westbrook trade. If they had assets to make a move this season for another star caliber player that fits, I think they'd be a contender. They can do something in the summer, but who knows how LeBron/AD fare health-wise next season.

Even still, I'm not sure other teams(besides the Nuggets) would want to face them in a playoff series. Maybe I'm overrating the impact of LeBron/AD in a series still.

[LeBird]

Starting to subscribe to Nick Wright’s desperate take that the best shot Lakers have is to get Denver earlier on, when the schedule helps the Lakers rest with more time between games, rather than Conf. Finals.

That said, there is no guarantee they survive the play-in. What a weird team.

[EmpireFalls]

Starting to subscribe to Nick Wright’s desperate take that the best shot Lakers have is to get Denver earlier on, when the schedule helps the Lakers rest with more time between games, rather than Conf. Finals.

That said, there is no guarantee they survive the play-in. What a weird team.

Best shot to beat Denver as in win one game? Sure. I could see them stealing a game if Denver goes cold and the Lakers just shoot the lights out.

Win a 7 game series? The only way that happens is with a Nikola Jokic injury. I mean this seriously, if both teams are healthy, the Lakers could play the Nuggets in a series 100 times and they’d win 0 times.

[TroubleS0me]

Starting to subscribe to Nick Wright’s desperate take that the best shot Lakers have is to get Denver earlier on, when the schedule helps the Lakers rest with more time between games, rather than Conf. Finals.

That said, there is no guarantee they survive the play-in. What a weird team.

Best shot to beat Denver as in win one game? Sure. I could see them stealing a game if Denver goes cold and the Lakers just shoot the lights out.

Win a 7 game series? The only way that happens is with a Nikola Jokic injury. I mean this seriously, if both teams are healthy, the Lakers could play the Nuggets in a series 100 times and they’d win 0 times.

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[nzahir]

So who are we rooting for???

6th seed Pelicans (47 wins): @sac, @GS (2nd night of a b2b), vs LA. 47 wins atm
7th seed Suns (47 wins): @kings, @wolves
8th seed Kings (45 wins): Pels, Suns (2nd night of a b2b), blazers
9th seed Lakers (45 wins): @mem, @pelicans
10th seed GS: @portland, Pels (on 2nd night of a b2b), Jazz

Lets try and be realistic on these games, but we also have to have the mindset we are winning both games (so thats at least 1 Pels loss)

Since we own the tiebrakers with the suns and pels, we probably want those teams to lose out, but the issue is GS. What happens if its a 3-4 way tie with GS, us, Pels and or Suns?

Pels could legit lose every game and be at 47 wins, but that means the Kings have 46 wins at a minimum. And they should beat portland. So 47 wins and they own our tiebraker. If they beat the Suns, that is 48 wins. If they lose to the Pels and Suns (also realistic), then its 46 wins for Sac

If KAT is back for the Suns game and Sac can win short handed, Suns also only win 47 games

Can also root for the Pels to beat GS and Sac and the Suns to beat the kings

Pels and suns lock in seed 6-7 then

But we can be the 8th seed then vs the Suns

Then we go all out in that game and win it and be the 7th seed and play OKC or Minny rd 1

[picko]

Starting to subscribe to Nick Wright’s desperate take that the best shot Lakers have is to get Denver earlier on, when the schedule helps the Lakers rest with more time between games, rather than Conf. Finals.

That said, there is no guarantee they survive the play-in. What a weird team.

Best shot to beat Denver as in win one game? Sure. I could see them stealing a game if Denver goes cold and the Lakers just shoot the lights out.

Win a 7 game series? The only way that happens is with a Nikola Jokic injury. I mean this seriously, if both teams are healthy, the Lakers could play the Nuggets in a series 100 times and they’d win 0 times.

I would extend that to a Murray injury as well - since they really aren't the same without him - but your point still stands. The only way the Lakers could beat Denver in a series is due to a significant injury.

[tone wone]

Who the hell am I suppose to be rooting for in this NO-SAC game?

And what about tomorrow's NO-GSW game?

[nzahir]

Who the hell am I suppose to be rooting for in this NO-SAC game?

And what about tomorrow's NO-GSW game?

Best path is for the Pels to win both games and then Sac to lose and we handle business