2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 3

[Dalek]

Jonathan Mogbo is a puzzle for me. Dunked over 80 times, has a high block and assist rate but is about 6'9. Is he just another classic undersized center?

He looks great on film doing it all for his team.

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But in highschool here he is shooting jumpers. Is there way more to him then what we saw this year? In college sometimes guy just stick to their role but in the NBA it expands.

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Scottie also seems to be connected to him. I would not be surprised if we drafted him. Sleeper pick.

[MEDIC]

This is my guy at 31. I think the Raps could use a super mobile high post big like him off the bench. Good court vision from the mid post & elbow. Great passing skills. Excellent push shot/ floater within 10 feet. I am really interested in seeing his pre-draft measurements.

His skill set reminds me of Poeltl. Just more mobile & a little shorter. I think he fits Darko's system perfectly.

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He's not a highlight reel player. Just does a lot of little thigs most players aren't willing to do. High IQ plays.

I really like Oso's bball IQ and he looks like a guy that will be in the NBA for 10 years. Great fit for this type of system.

The lack of shooting gravity is a bit sketchy for the Raptors, and I think he measures a bit short as a C but he is a great offensive hub type. He is also a capable defender. I think he is a guy that could play in the rotation sooner, although the question with him is always, is there enough scoring around him.

I have always liked the concept of drafting Oso and Kolek this year. Fits our two biggest needs and the chemistry will be there for both.

If we have a lotto pick we can gamble a bit on long-term upside, but for the other two picks those two would be solid.

I like Oso, but he doesn't project to be a shooter any time in the near future. Do we really even need a Thaddeus Young type of player? We just gave Thad up for nothing.

I think he plays more like a big than Thad & I am hoping his measurements are closer to 6'10".

I think Thad Young at 31 is pretty good value. He was playing well before the Raps traded him. I know they didn't want to trade him.

If there is a better/ more fitting prospect available at 31, you go for it. Other than that, I think you look for players that are going to compliment your system.

[manjusaka]

Jonathan Mogbo is a puzzle for me. Dunked over 80 times, has a high block and assist rate but is about 6'9. Is he just another classic undersized center?

He looks great on film doing it all for his team.

Watch on YouTube

But in highschool here he is shooting jumpers. Is there way more to him then what we saw this year? In college sometimes guy just stick to their role but in the NBA it expands.

Watch on YouTube

Scottie also seems to be connected to him. I would not be surprised if we drafted him. Sleeper pick.

Very interesting find


Five schools, five years, five states: Hoops nomad Jonathan Mogbo flourishes at USF

That quest traces to his upbringing in West Palm Beach, Fla., where one of his AAU teammates dating to fourth grade was Scottie Barnes. Barnes now plays for the Toronto Raptors, was named NBA Rookie of the Year in 2022 and earned his first All-Star Game berth last month.

Barnes stands 6-7, one inch shorter than Mogbo, but the height disparity was flipped and more significant during their youth. Mogbo began high school as a skinny, 5-9 guard, which enhanced his ballhandling skills and didn’t especially help his college prospects.
He grew to 6-6 as a senior but remained skinny and had no D-I offers coming out of Forest Hill High. Mogbo spent his first college season at Independence Community College in Kansas, where his coach left after the season, so Mogbo also felt compelled to depart.

His is listed 6' 8", 225 lbs by ESPN, the most interesting part is he shoot 43%FT last season but improved to 69% this season. Although he didn’t shoot any 3 at all, he’s shooting may have rooms for improvement.

[OakleyDokely]

The more film I watch of Collin Murray-Boyle, the more excited I get about his pro development. At 18 he is 6'7 and 230 lbs and he is a physical beast who scores in the paint and defends every multi-positions.

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He really gives me shades of OG in his freshman year. But OG didn't even had a 10.3 BPM and 4.3 DBPM. OG hit more threes in college, but he was a 52% from the freethrow line in college. CMB will get better with more reps.

Over the last 10 games of the regular season he put up 16/8/2 with a 73 TS% in 29 mins. Definitely impressive for a freshman.

[Yallbecrazy]

The more film I watch of Collin Murray-Boyle, the more excited I get about his pro development. At 18 he is 6'7 and 230 lbs and he is a physical beast who scores in the paint and defends every multi-positions.

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Look at him cover Dalton Knecht:

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He really gives me shades of OG in his freshman year. But OG didn't even had a 10.3 BPM and 4.3 DBPM. OG hit more threes in college, but he was a 52% from the freethrow line in college. CMB will get better with more reps.

Where has this guy been hiding? If he could shoot he'd be my #1 by a large margin. 66% FT isn't terrible, but those stats and with that build I'm taking this guy top 5.

[Psubs]

Jonathan Mogbo is a puzzle for me. Dunked over 80 times, has a high block and assist rate but is about 6'9. Is he just another classic undersized center?

He looks great on film doing it all for his team.

Watch on YouTube

But in highschool here he is shooting jumpers. Is there way more to him then what we saw this year? In college sometimes guy just stick to their role but in the NBA it expands.

Watch on YouTube

Scottie also seems to be connected to him. I would not be surprised if we drafted him. Sleeper pick.

No way a pick is spent on him. Camp invite sure. Cheap Boucher replacement if traded.

[Psubs]

The more film I watch of Collin Murray-Boyle, the more excited I get about his pro development. At 18 he is 6'7 and 230 lbs and he is a physical beast who scores in the paint and defends every multi-positions.

Read on Twitter

Look at him cover Dalton Knecht:

Read on Twitter

He really gives me shades of OG in his freshman year. But OG didn't even had a 10.3 BPM and 4.3 DBPM. OG hit more threes in college, but he was a 52% from the freethrow line in college. CMB will get better with more reps.

Where has this guy been hiding? If he could shoot he'd be my #1 by a large margin. 66% FT isn't terrible, but those stats and with that build I'm taking this guy top 5.

He looks like Scottie before him growing an inch since being drafted. His wingspan is large and gets 1 stl and 1 blk in 22 mpg. I like how he can dunk from standstill. He does look like he could be an OG like defender. He passes well and like him more than Ryan Dunn. I would be cool with him at #31.

If looking earlier, I'd try to do the #17 and 31 for #21 and 25 from the Knicks. I could see the Knicks wanting Kel'el Ware or Tyler Smith with #17.

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@ 5:54, opp BLOB, let's his man drift outside and sees the lob threat coming around a screen and intercepts the alley-oop!

[Syd-TK3]

6: Holland, Matas, Sheppard, Castle

Pacers: Collier, Carter, McCain, Ware

31: Da silva, George, Ivisic, Edwards

[Karanpal]

How would everyone rank these guards

Collier, McCain, Carter, Sheppard, Dillingham, Topic

[Kevin Willis]

Jonathan Mogbo is a puzzle for me. Dunked over 80 times, has a high block and assist rate but is about 6'9. Is he just another classic undersized center?

He looks great on film doing it all for his team.

Watch on YouTube

But in highschool here he is shooting jumpers. Is there way more to him then what we saw this year? In college sometimes guy just stick to their role but in the NBA it expands.

Watch on YouTube

Scottie also seems to be connected to him. I would not be surprised if we drafted him. Sleeper pick.

Nice find Dalek. He looks better at JUCO than in Div 1, which makes sense. It would be better if he looked like he did in JUCO at mid-major. Top video he looks a little slow and under the rim. Doesn't look like he has a touch. I remember Siakam in college always had that motor, he doesn't have that. Looks more like a poor man's Kenneth Faried, not sure if that's good for us.

[grant101]

Collier is unlikely to be chosen among the top 10, so who would be most likely to select him ahead of the Pacers pick at #17?

#11 - Chicago
#12 - Oklahoma City
#13 - Portland (via Golden State)
#14 - New Orleans (via LA Lakers)
#15 - Philadelphia
#16 - Miami

He's not the typical Heat type of pick, but could be a backup for the 76ers or Pelicans.

Otherwise, Portland, OKC and Chicago would likely priotize other positions or needs as their backcourts are already quite full.

Of the six teams that could possibly select him, only two of them would likely have him on their draft boards as a tier 1 prospect and among them, they could have other guards like Jared McCain, Ja'Kobe Walter, Kyshawn George or Devin Carter ranked ahead of him.

This is what I'm thinking (hoping?) as well. Collier can be a tough fit if you don't plan to have him be a centerpiece of your team's offence (either as a starter or off the bench). He's wasted and far less effective as an off-ball player. His shooting off the catch is just too spotty and he doesn't wow with athleticism or length as a cutter. I see most of these teams prioritizing roster fits, and shooting in particular.

[Psubs]

How would everyone rank these guards

Collier, McCain, Carter, Sheppard, Dillingham, Topic

Sheppard
Carrington
Dillingham
Topic
McCain
Collier
Carter

[Psubs]

Jonathan Mogbo is a puzzle for me. Dunked over 80 times, has a high block and assist rate but is about 6'9. Is he just another classic undersized center?

He looks great on film doing it all for his team.

Watch on YouTube

But in highschool here he is shooting jumpers. Is there way more to him then what we saw this year? In college sometimes guy just stick to their role but in the NBA it expands.

Watch on YouTube

Scottie also seems to be connected to him. I would not be surprised if we drafted him. Sleeper pick.

Nice find Dalek. He looks better at JUCO than in Div 1, which makes sense. It would be better if he looked like he did in JUCO at mid-major. Top video he looks a little slow and under the rim. Doesn't look like he has a touch. I remember Siakam in college always had that motor, he doesn't have that. Looks more like a poor man's Kenneth Faried, not sure if that's good for us.

1 inch taller Kenneth Faried is the exact comp I was thinking.

[grant101]

Jonathan Mogbo is a puzzle for me. Dunked over 80 times, has a high block and assist rate but is about 6'9. Is he just another classic undersized center?

He looks great on film doing it all for his team.

Watch on YouTube

But in highschool here he is shooting jumpers. Is there way more to him then what we saw this year? In college sometimes guy just stick to their role but in the NBA it expands.

Watch on YouTube

Scottie also seems to be connected to him. I would not be surprised if we drafted him. Sleeper pick.

Nice find Dalek. He looks better at JUCO than in Div 1, which makes sense. It would be better if he looked like he did in JUCO at mid-major. Top video he looks a little slow and under the rim. Doesn't look like he has a touch. I remember Siakam in college always had that motor, he doesn't have that. Looks more like a poor man's Kenneth Faried, not sure if that's good for us.

1 inch taller Kenneth Faried is the exact comp I was thinking.

Not a bad comp (and not a bad NBA outcome @ 31!), though the crucial difference is that Jonathan projects to be a very good defender (defence is a big part of what drove Faried out of the league). Mogbo is also MILES ahead as a passer (7% vs 24% AST rate with a lower TOV%!!). He also has a slightly better chance of being able to shoot it at some point.

[niQ]

Why does it feel like all the prospects suck at FT nowadays?

[UnbelievablyRAW]

I actually wouldn’t be surprised if the Raptors take Sheppard if he’s still there and we aren’t in position to take Sarr.

[ArthurVandelay]

Sarr is my guy. Hoping Raps pick #1

He’ll be the guy everyone looks back on and questions why they didn’t see it coming. My response is group think on lack of star power in the draft

If you’d like Mobley or Jackson Jr on the Raptors, then you should be all over Sarr.

If you can’t get behind him like that, if you’d at least like a shot blocking, rim rolling athletic big on the Raps in the mould of Claxton, you should be high on Sarr…imo of course.

[tecumseh18]

I actually wouldn’t be surprised if the Raptors take Sheppard if he’s still there and we aren’t in position to take Sarr.

Depend on his measurements. Traditionally, a small guard only succeeds in the NBA if they have girth/strength. I've read great things about Sheppard, but he doesn't have Lowry's build.

[manjusaka]

How would everyone rank these guards

Collier, McCain, Carter, Sheppard, Dillingham, Topic

Topic, Dillingham, Sheppard, Carter, McCain, Collier

[WuTang_CMB]

Sarr is my guy. Hoping Raps pick #1

He’ll be the guy everyone looks back on and questions why they didn’t see it coming. My response is group think on lack of star power in the draft

If you’d like Mobley or Jackson Jr on the Raptors, then you should be all over Sarr.

If you can’t get behind him like that, if you’d at least like a shot blocking, rim rolling athletic big on the Raps in the mould of Claxton, you should be high on Sarr…imo of course.

This is where I'm at. I think he's got some really good upside especially if they can mold him into a JJJ type of player.
Plus the Raps need a defensive / bouncy big. Our defense really needs to be looked at in the off-season... and yes I know Poeltl being healthy would help but we gotta be realistic with our young group - getting Sarr would help with upside and timeline. But the only shot for him is 1 or 2. We got decent young talent but our length really took a gut punch with all the trades.