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Re: Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas - Woj: "MRI shows Achilles tendon fully intact"/Shams: "Best Case Outcome" 

Post#1382 » by drdrG » Wed Apr 10, 2024 8:00 pm

This is why you bring Dame in. No Giannis and you hope Dame can give you 35+ and carry you to wins against good opponents. He's played his most consistently great ball sans Giannis this season. Win 1 against Orlando and we lock into the 2/3 slot right?

3 get right games for Dame heading into the playoffs isn't the worst thing. I want him putting up at least 20 FGAs/game.

It took until game 78 to not start Beasley. I give him credit as he's outperformed expectations. Still, his defensive limitations and single skillset offensively make even Pat Bev an upgrade over him for the playoffs.
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Post#1383 » by Profound23 » Wed Apr 10, 2024 8:13 pm

drdrG wrote:This is why you bring Dame in. No Giannis and you hope Dame can give you 35+ and carry you to wins against good opponents. He's played his most consistently great ball sans Giannis this season. Win 1 against Orlando and we lock into the 2/3 slot right?

3 get right games for Dame heading into the playoffs isn't the worst thing. I want him putting up at least 20 FGAs/game.

It took until game 78 to not start Beasley. I give him credit as he's outperformed expectations. Still, his defensive limitations and single skillset offensively make even Pat Bev an upgrade over him for the playoffs.



Yep, this is exactly why. If we kept Jrue and Giannis has this injury, misses a couple of games there is no hope. If Giannis has to miss two playoff games (not saying it will happen, just saying if) and Dame can't at least carry us to a 1-1 record then that trade was pointless.
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Post#1384 » by pifhluk23 » Wed Apr 10, 2024 8:55 pm

drdrG wrote:This is why you bring Dame in. No Giannis and you hope Dame can give you 35+ and carry you to wins against good opponents. He's played his most consistently great ball sans Giannis this season. Win 1 against Orlando and we lock into the 2/3 slot right?

3 get right games for Dame heading into the playoffs isn't the worst thing. I want him putting up at least 20 FGAs/game.

It took until game 78 to not start Beasley. I give him credit as he's outperformed expectations. Still, his defensive limitations and single skillset offensively make even Pat Bev an upgrade over him for the playoffs.


At least someone gets it. Imagine this team with Giannis and Khris out and Jrue... they'd be lucky to get 80 points.
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Post#1386 » by ReasonablySober » Wed Apr 10, 2024 9:51 pm

You know this season has gone to hell when it's game 80 and my first thought was, "Hey, maybe now Dame gets it going".
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Post#1387 » by emunney » Wed Apr 10, 2024 9:53 pm

The Bucks can play 5 out when Giannis sits, so the driving lanes open for Dame and he becomes Portland Dame again. My working theory.
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Post#1388 » by BigO » Wed Apr 10, 2024 10:04 pm

Serious question. How much of the Bucks win against the Celtics had to do with the following:

a) they didn't take the other teams seriously , but got up for the Celtics
b) KM played, while the three prior games, either he or Dame were out
c) Pat Bev played, Beasley played limited minutes and Crowder sat.

My take is that B and C were the reasons and mainly C.
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Post#1389 » by Jez2983 » Wed Apr 10, 2024 10:08 pm

Milbucks96 wrote:
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Milbucks96 wrote:I think it’s very reasonable to have watched that injury last night, and remember the Achilles tendinitis earlier and be worried that it was the Achilles or a serious injury. Now claiming it’s for sure an Achilles is wild. I also think the people surely claiming it was just cramp or just strain before the mri was just as wild too.

All in all great news overall.


Were you the person who was calling the guy on Twitter a quack because he expected it to be a strain? If it wasn't, I'm sorry.

Whoever it was, he was right. The 'walk-off' effect has diagnostic predictive value in determining a less-severe injury.

Also, how do you think we diagnosed injury before MRI? Not only did we do it (and fairly well), but MRI throws up false positives, like every other clinical examination in existence.

No it was not me lol have no idea what you’re talking about. Also I’m not sure if you’re arguing against anything I’ve said, I’ve and one’d all of your post about injuries since you’re in that field and I didn’t make any post claiming Giannis’s injury was more serious or anything. Just scary to see.

I’m just saying that after watching Giannis go down last night and thinking about the earlier tendinitis, someone like me who doesn’t know much about that stuff will naturally start to worry it’s serious but obviously wait for the official diag. I think that’s reasonable.

If you thought my post was directed at you it wasn’t, it was the ones calling it obviously a cramp before the game was even over. I leave that stuff to the experts.


My apologies, I shouldn't reply late at night! We can definitely get a good idea of injury severity from clinical examination. The MRI really helps to clarify the extent of the injury and can provide an idea of prognosis (but not always).

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Post#1390 » by chonestown » Wed Apr 10, 2024 10:31 pm

Jez2983 wrote:My apologies, I shouldn't reply late at night! We can definitely get a good idea of injury severity from clinical examination. The MRI really helps to clarify the extent of the injury and can provide an idea of prognosis (but not always).

Sorry again.


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Post#1391 » by Dick Tate » Wed Apr 10, 2024 10:44 pm

BigO wrote:Serious question. How much of the Bucks win against the Celtics had to do with the following:

a) they didn't take the other teams seriously , but got up for the Celtics
b) KM played, while the three prior games, either he or Dame were out
c) Pat Bev played, Beasley played limited minutes and Crowder sat.

My take is that B and C were the reasons and mainly C.

Good reasons but I gotta go with both Big Al and Zinger missing the game as the main reason.
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Post#1392 » by MiltownMadness » Wed Apr 10, 2024 10:56 pm

Dick Tate wrote:
BigO wrote:Serious question. How much of the Bucks win against the Celtics had to do with the following:

a) they didn't take the other teams seriously , but got up for the Celtics
b) KM played, while the three prior games, either he or Dame were out
c) Pat Bev played, Beasley played limited minutes and Crowder sat.

My take is that B and C were the reasons and mainly C.

Good reasons but I gotta go with both Big Al and Zinger missing the game as the main reason.

Doesnt exactly compute when Bucks lost to teams starting guys who played in Guam last year prior
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Post#1393 » by GoldenAntlers » Thu Apr 11, 2024 12:51 am

ReasonablySober wrote:You know this season has gone to hell when it's game 80 and my first thought was, "Hey, maybe now Dame gets it going".
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Post#1395 » by ShootingtheJ » Thu Apr 11, 2024 11:29 am

emunney wrote:The Bucks can play 5 out when Giannis sits, so the driving lanes open for Dame and he becomes Portland Dame again. My working theory.


It looked good last night, but Dame wasn't surrounded by shooters in Portland. Plumlee was his center for years, and he had numerous starting forwards that couldn't shoot like Aminu and Harkless.
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Post#1396 » by pifhluk23 » Thu Apr 11, 2024 12:20 pm

I'm really surprised more people aren't upset at the complete incompetence of this organization this year. It was obvious to anyone paying attention that Giannis was hobbled the past few weeks and yet these idiots played him:

NY 39 minutes
Grizz 32 on a b2b...
Wiz 36
Hawks 38
Pelicans 39
Lakers 46

All of that stress on his leg when seeding means next to nothing this year and we ended up going 1-5 in that stretch anyway. I mean c'mon how dumb are the people making these decisions? I'm sure Giannis said he wanted to play all of that but its up to the organization to put their foot down. This has been the problem forever now, the org refusing to say NO to Giannis.

Now instead of a healthy Giannis and the same record anyways we have a BEST case scenario of a first round against 76ers/Heat/Pacers with Giannis out 4-7 of those games.

Throw in the Griffin debacle and this org gets an F------ this year, couldn't have done a worst job honestly.
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Post#1397 » by Ron Swanson » Thu Apr 11, 2024 12:53 pm

Well, let's first acknowledge that there's no way Giannis is missing the 1st round. But yes, playing him on the B2B vs. the Grizz was incomprehensibly dumb and was pointed out at the time (especially since Dame and Khris also didn't play). It's equal parts Doc and the training staff for not having a concise load management plan with him considering the ongoing issue of his knee tendinitis. Heading into the playoffs healthy was your absolute #1 goal above all else, and they failed at that.
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Post#1398 » by Finn » Thu Apr 11, 2024 2:19 pm

How do we go from "Suki is a miracle worker" to "Suki is as dumb as a bag of rocks" so quickly?
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Post#1399 » by MartyConlonOnTheRun » Thu Apr 11, 2024 2:44 pm

Finn wrote:How do we go from "Suki is a miracle worker" to "Suki is as dumb as a bag of rocks" so quickly?

To be fair, someone threw out how our medical team would suddenly cure K Leonard. We are as hot and cold as Bobby over here.
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Post#1400 » by BuckFan25226 » Thu Apr 11, 2024 2:48 pm

pifhluk23 wrote:I'm really surprised more people aren't upset at the complete incompetence of this organization this year. It was obvious to anyone paying attention that Giannis was hobbled the past few weeks and yet these idiots played him:

NY 39 minutes
Grizz 32 on a b2b...
Wiz 36
Hawks 38
Pelicans 39
Lakers 46

All of that stress on his leg when seeding means next to nothing this year and we ended up going 1-5 in that stretch anyway. I mean c'mon how dumb are the people making these decisions? I'm sure Giannis said he wanted to play all of that but its up to the organization to put their foot down. This has been the problem forever now, the org refusing to say NO to Giannis.

Now instead of a healthy Giannis and the same record anyways we have a BEST case scenario of a first round against 76ers/Heat/Pacers with Giannis out 4-7 of those games.

Throw in the Griffin debacle and this org gets an F------ this year, couldn't have done a worst job honestly.



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