Los_29 wrote:Scase wrote:Los_29 wrote:If we tanked for 4 years and ended up with a Banchero/Suggs/Franz core then this forum would be a very depressing place and many people’s ideas of tanking would have changed dramatically.
Whether we like to admit it or not, that’s a bad outcome. OKC’s tank would’ve been a bad outcome as well had the Paul George trade not happened.
Yeah, I'm sure the entire board would be up in arms being 2 games out of 2nd place in the east, only the 2nd year after finishing 13th in the east, missing the playoffs, and having a 34-48 record.
Man some of the stuff you say is just baffling.
You can’t convince me that Banchero/Franz/Suggs is a championship core. I don’t even think the Magic made a bad decision to tank. It was time as Weltman waited way too long to break up a bad team. But what some people don’t understand is that it’s extremely rare for a tanking team to land a superstar caliber player. Rockets, Thunder, Magic, Pistons and Cavs are all teams that spent a lot of time in the lottery and none of them got a superstar. The problem is you can get good players in the draft like Banchero and Franz and it is enough to lift that team out of the lottery.
Unless Banchero makes incredible improvements in his game then he’s not taking that team anywhere.
Who said anything about a championship core? They are literally about to make the playoffs for the first time since they started a rebuild, you only said this place would be depressing if that is what we had. And I absolutely disagree, people were singing massive praises for our team when we won 48 games post Tampa and had high hopes for the future. And you think they would be LESS happy if we were 2 games out of 2nd in the east after not making the playoffs for 4 years?
I mean christ, people were hyped when we made the PLAY IN.
Allow me to flip your post on you :
You can't convince me that RJ/IQ/Barnes is a championship core either. Banchero/Franz/Suggs are all in years 2/3/3. Our core are in years 3/5/4, I would put my money on the group of younger players with comparable skill levels, over the older ones. Masai took too long to break up a bad team. You can get good players in the draft like RJ and IQ and it is enough to lift that team out of the lottery?
Unless Scottie makes incredible improvements in his game then he’s not taking that team anywhere.
Literally all of your criticisms of the magic can
easily be cast right back at the Raps with almost a 1:1 comparison. The only difference is that I think Scottie has a higher ceiling than Paolo. Franz is younger and a better 2 way player than RJ, and IQ is to offence, what Suggs is to defence.
I would happily do a 1:1 trade of RJ for Franz. You know who wouldn't? The Magic.