2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 3

[JRoy]

Same. Either we move up to the top 5 or concede

Seems better for mental health to consider the IND pick and rejoice if TOR keeps the pick.

I am probably in the minority, I don’t mind if we convey the pick this year and end the saga.

It might be better, this draft looks like a stinker.

[Bruin]

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If Dink Pate is allowed into the draft, how does that shake things up? Is he a top-10 pick, and would the Raptors be interested in drafting him?

Doesn't he remind people of Grant Hill? I guess that's his ceiling. His shooting %'s are bad but form looks decent.

Is he GG Jackson with more handles and play-making?

Crazy to think he’d be an even younger rookie than Jackson if they let him enter this draft. Pate would be 18 until essentially the last month of his rookie year

I’d personally give heavy consideration to picking him if we can. You could almost consider it like a lotto pick next year cause even after a year of development and NBA experience he’d still be younger than a lot of the one and done guys in the 2025 class

[shefcurry]

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If Dink Pate is allowed into the draft, how does that shake things up? Is he a top-10 pick, and would the Raptors be interested in drafting him?

Doesn't he remind people of Grant Hill? I guess that's his ceiling. His shooting %'s are bad but form looks decent.

Is he GG Jackson with more handles and play-making?

Crazy to think he’d be an even younger rookie than Jackson if they let him enter this draft. Pate would be 18 until essentially the last month of his rookie year

I’d personally give heavy consideration to picking him if we can. You could almost consider it like a lotto pick next year cause even after a year of development and NBA experience he’d still be younger than a lot of the one and done guys in the 2025 class

Defenses would choke on a Dink-Dick combo.

[MEDIC]

I am definitely buying into Reed Sheppard a little more. He at least has an elite level NBA skill (Off the catch & off the dribble 3 point shooting). You could use him & Quick kind of like they used Lowry & Fred. Have him come off the bench as the backup PG, but also give him minutes at the 2 with Quick in the game. I think he fits the system really well. This team desperately needs some elite 3 point shooting. Between Quick, GD & Sheppard, that's a nice guard rotation with some serious firepower. If they re-sign, Gary.....he's another one. Very versatile lineup. Scottie can average 10 assists a game with that group.

Sheppards game reminds me of Quickley's. Less speed, but he has a lot in his bag (Catch & shoot, shooting off the dribble, 3 point, mid range, good hesitation moves, good ball handling skills, decent court vision & passing, floaters, etc). He has a pretty good vertical as well, so athletically there is something to work with. He has more length & athleticism than Fred.

A 6th MOTY type player like Malcom Brogdon isn't a bad haul in a draft like this one (I think he has more athleticism than Brogdon). This team can't afford to come away empty so I am not keen on drafting a high risk player.

I am definitely higher on Sheppard for this team than Castle or Dillingham.

[OAKLEY_2]

Doesn't he remind people of Grant Hill? I guess that's his ceiling. His shooting %'s are bad but form looks decent.

Is he GG Jackson with more handles and play-making?

Crazy to think he’d be an even younger rookie than Jackson if they let him enter this draft. Pate would be 18 until essentially the last month of his rookie year

I’d personally give heavy consideration to picking him if we can. You could almost consider it like a lotto pick next year cause even after a year of development and NBA experience he’d still be younger than a lot of the one and done guys in the 2025 class

Defenses would choke on a Dink-Dick combo.

And they'll absolutely sag on Dink-Dick-Freeman Liberty.

[OAKLEY_2]

We just have to loto balls into the lotto and sit back and watch. If all we have is 18 and 31 is all gonna be boring.

[OakleyDokely]

I'm liking the prospect options at the IND pick more than at our own pick. I feel like we're going to be paying a big rookie contract and eventual big extension to a player who isn't much different in quality/potential than the guy we pick in the teens.

[Bruin]

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[aminiaturebuddha]

One of my favourites for that Pacers pick is DaRon Holmes. I've seen some people put him in the range of consideration for the Pistons pick, but I really don't think he'll last that long.

I just think he can do a lot of things well, has no glaring weaknesses, and is almost guaranteed to be a rotational contributor at the NBA level. Right now he's probably my second choice at the Pacers pick behind Tristan da Silva unless someone falls unexpectedly.

And watching some NBA games over the past week an interesting comp for Holmes came to mind - Naz Reid. No comps are perfect, but I think it's pretty close. They're both hardworking players who give strong effort on defence and the boards, even if they're slightly undersized compared to some centers. And they both have a diverse skill set on offence that means they can be played at 4 or 5. And if anything, Holmes may end up being an even better passer.

What do others think of that comp?

What about Richaun Holmes comp. Ugh another same name comp.

I think DaRon is much more fluid in his movements than Richaun and is already a better shooter. Also a much better passer. Last name aside, and the fact that they're similar in size, I'm not sure I see much of a comp there.

[aminiaturebuddha]

I'm liking the prospect options at the IND pick more than at our own pick. I feel like we're going to be paying a big rookie contract and eventual big extension to a player who isn't much different in quality/potential than the guy we pick in the teens.

I tend to agree although I think the potential is where the lottery players are strongest. I think the guys in the top part of the lottery are all real development types. They're high ceiling players, but a few of them won't be very effective (especially considering their draft position) if they can't improve on certain clear weaknesses.

On the flipside, with the Pacers pick I think there will be a good chance to get a solid rotation player. Not the same potential as those guys in the lottery, but might have a better chance of actually contributing to the team next year. They're just not likely to be a potential top 3 player on the team in a few years like the top lottery talent.

[OakleyDokely]

I'm liking the prospect options at the IND pick more than at our own pick. I feel like we're going to be paying a big rookie contract and eventual big extension to a player who isn't much different in quality/potential than the guy we pick in the teens.

I tend to agree although I think the potential is where the lottery players are strongest. I think the guys in the top part of the lottery are all real development types. They're high ceiling players, but a few of them won't be very effective (especially considering their draft position) if they can't improve on certain clear weaknesses.

On the flipside, with the Pacers pick I think there will be a good chance to get a solid rotation player. Not the same potential as those guys in the lottery, but might have a better chance of actually contributing to the team next year. They're just not likely to be a potential top 3 player on the team in a few years like the top lottery talent.

Lets take the guards.

GRP 1: Sheppard/Dillingham/Topic/Castle
GRP 2: McCain/Carter/Collier/Sears

GRP 1 will all likely be taken in the top 10, probably in the top 7/8.
GRP 2 will all likely be taken between 10-20.

I'm not at all convinced that the best guy out of those two groups will come from GRP 1.

I think this is a pretty strong draft for rotational guards and we should be able to get one with the IND pick.

[Rapsfan07]

I'm liking the prospect options at the IND pick more than at our own pick. I feel like we're going to be paying a big rookie contract and eventual big extension to a player who isn't much different in quality/potential than the guy we pick in the teens.

Agreed. I've been saying the same thing for a while as well - the middle of the draft looks like the sweet spot for me. Depending on where our pick lands and who is on the board at the time, I wouldn't mind moving down. Even acquiring another pick in the middle of the draft by moving some of our non-essential plays (if they're worth that much) could be good long term. I don't see many stars there but I do think a few of those guys can be quality contributors to a winning team if they pan out as projected.

[aminiaturebuddha]

I'm liking the prospect options at the IND pick more than at our own pick. I feel like we're going to be paying a big rookie contract and eventual big extension to a player who isn't much different in quality/potential than the guy we pick in the teens.

I tend to agree although I think the potential is where the lottery players are strongest. I think the guys in the top part of the lottery are all real development types. They're high ceiling players, but a few of them won't be very effective (especially considering their draft position) if they can't improve on certain clear weaknesses.

On the flipside, with the Pacers pick I think there will be a good chance to get a solid rotation player. Not the same potential as those guys in the lottery, but might have a better chance of actually contributing to the team next year. They're just not likely to be a potential top 3 player on the team in a few years like the top lottery talent.

Lets take the guards.

GRP 1: Sheppard/Dillingham/Topic/Castle
GRP 2: McCain/Carter/Collier/Sears

GRP 1 will all likely be taken in the top 10, probably in the top 7/8.
GRP 2 will all likely be taken between 10-20.

I'm not at all convinced that the best guy out of those two groups will come from GRP 1.

I think this is a pretty strong draft for rotational guards and we should be able to get one with the IND pick.

I think the best one probably will come out of group 1, it's just a question of which one. The Kentucky guys have big questions on defence right now, Castle will really need to improve his shooting, and Topic likely both things. But if one of them does that, improves their weaknesses and hits big, they've got All Star potential. But you could also end up with a Markelle Fultz-level dud.

I think the group 2 guys are all solid players (although Collier also really needs to improve his shooting), but I'm not sure I see All Star potential in any of them.

So I see it as a real floor-ceiling dichotomy.

[PhilBlackson]

While I know all we can do is let the chips fall where they may…I’m not on Team Convey.

We’re barely hanging on to the 6th pick after 15+ losses! lol

Think about that…we won’t experience anything close to that bad next year and you’re crazy if you don’t think this spatter of guys being in & out the lineup (Gary, BB) isn’t intentional or that 2 starters will have close family members die plus 2 starters (one being your best player and the other probably you’re most important defensive piece at C). It took the roster turning over mid season and being completely depleted shortly after just to try and stay bottom 7. Not to mention whether we retain or not most of these guys are likely to continue improving and we’ll be adding at another piece or two through the draft and FA.

I fully expect this team to be substantially better next year. That pick imo will likely be at best 10th but I think 12+ is FAR more likely and if you watched that McDonald’s AA game, I’m sorry I’m not saying next year’s is bad but they did look overrated imo and I didn’t find anyone really jumping off the page.

I’ve checked out some of the names 10+ in next years draft and I honestly think the players in the top 6 of this one look better, at worst comparable. I’m which case it makes way more sense to get that prospect in our franchise sooner that later.

There’s nothing we can do about it conveying or not but I pray we don’t.

[WuTang_CMB]

potential top 5 pick , doubt he goes back

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[WuTang_CMB]

While I know all we can do is let the chips fall where they may…I’m not on Team Convey.

We’re barely hanging on to the 6th pick after 15+ losses! lol

Think about that…we won’t experience anything close to that bad next year and you’re crazy if you don’t think this spatter of guys being in & out the lineup (Gary, BB) isn’t intentional or that 2 starters will have close family members die plus 2 starters (one being your best player and the other probably you’re most important defensive piece at C). It took the roster turning over mid season and being completely depleted shortly after just to try and stay bottom 7. Not to mention whether we retain or not most of these guys are likely to continue improving and we’ll be adding at another piece or two through the draft and FA.

I fully expect this team to be substantially better next year. That pick imo will likely be at best 10th but I think 12+ is FAR more likely and if you watched that McDonald’s AA game, I’m sorry I’m not saying next year’s is bad but they did look overrated imo and I didn’t find anyone really jumping off the page.

I’ve checked out some of the names 10+ in next years draft and I honestly think the players in the top 6 of this one look better, at worst comparable. I’m which case it makes way more sense to get that prospect in our franchise sooner that later.

There’s nothing we can do about it conveying or not but I pray we don’t.

I'm always of the opinion of to look what's in front of you. We are a bad team so we should be hoping to keep the pick. Anything can happen the following season. This isn't a late lotto pick - it's 6th .. bad draft or not

[Raptorfan2012]

potential top 5 pick , doubt he goes back

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Unless Reed really likes the college life, there is no way he is not going to at least explore the draft. Next year's draft is going to be better ( at least more hyped) than this year. For someone who is projected to be a top 10 pick, it will be crazy for him to go back to college.

[Thaddy]

Reeds a top 4 pick in this weak draft. Very stupid to not declare

[Smalltown]

Reeds a top 4 pick in this weak draft. Very stupid to not declare

I'm of the opinion that if you're a likely lottery pick 1-14. There's no real upside to going back.