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Re: 2024 NFL Draft - five picks in the first three rounds (seven in four! [probably]) 

Post#1481 » by RRyder823 » Fri Apr 12, 2024 8:40 pm

M-C-G wrote:I also think it is just really rare to see the high end caliber of WR prospects like we see in this draft. It's just an anomaly how many high end and high ceiling guys their are. I'm kind of stoked that we already have a legit WR core because that should drop a lot of value to our picks between the QBs that will be drafted and WR that go in round 1.


Is it? Every other year for the past decade has had these high end WR prospects



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Re: 2024 NFL Draft - five picks in the first three rounds (seven in four! [probably]) 

Post#1482 » by ReasonablySober » Fri Apr 12, 2024 8:58 pm

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M-C-G wrote:I also think it is just really rare to see the high end caliber of WR prospects like we see in this draft. It's just an anomaly how many high end and high ceiling guys their are. I'm kind of stoked that we already have a legit WR core because that should drop a lot of value to our picks between the QBs that will be drafted and WR that go in round 1.


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2021 is the only recent class that compares. They had Chase, Waddle, and Smith.

Prior to that you have to go back to 2012 with Green and Julio at the top, but it fell off hard after those two. 2004 had Larry Fitz and Roy Williams, 2003 had Charles Rodgers and Andre Johnson.

Outside of 2021, I think this is the best class of prospects since 1996 when Keyshawn Johnson, Terry Glenn, Eddie Kennison, Marvin Harrison, and Eric Moulds went in round one. Later rounds had Amani Toomer, Muhsin Muhammad, Bobby Engram, Joe Horn, and Terrell Owens.

That's the GOAT.
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Post#1483 » by ReasonablySober » Fri Apr 12, 2024 9:00 pm

Waddle, IMO, is the closest Nabers comparison.
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Re: 2024 NFL Draft - five picks in the first three rounds (seven in four! [probably]) 

Post#1484 » by Daver » Fri Apr 12, 2024 9:11 pm

So just curious the oackers i feel have a good oline and have for the most part for a long time.
How msny of those olinemen were picked in tbe 1st round DB wasnt jenkins wasnt tauscher wasnt clifton? not sure be was.I guess what im saying is i dont think theres anyreason to pick a OT in round 1 to me thats a waisted pick cause tbeir 5 guys right now are good.Tbey didnt lose against SF because of the oline
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Re: 2024 NFL Draft - five picks in the first three rounds (seven in four! [probably]) 

Post#1485 » by M-C-G » Fri Apr 12, 2024 9:36 pm

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RRyder823 wrote:
M-C-G wrote:I also think it is just really rare to see the high end caliber of WR prospects like we see in this draft. It's just an anomaly how many high end and high ceiling guys their are. I'm kind of stoked that we already have a legit WR core because that should drop a lot of value to our picks between the QBs that will be drafted and WR that go in round 1.


Is it? Every other year for the past decade has had these high end WR prospects



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2021 is the only recent class that compares. They had Chase, Waddle, and Smith.

Prior to that you have to go back to 2012 with Green and Julio at the top, but it fell off hard after those two. 2004 had Larry Fitz and Roy Williams, 2003 had Charles Rodgers and Andre Johnson.

Outside of 2021, I think this is the best class of prospects since 1996 when Keyshawn Johnson, Terry Glenn, Eddie Kennison, Marvin Harrison, and Eric Moulds went in round one. Later rounds had Amani Toomer, Muhsin Muhammad, Bobby Engram, Joe Horn, and Terrell Owens.

That's the GOAT.


My opinion this class is better. But hard to argue with a class that put out Chase, Waddle, Amon Ra, Nico Collins, Devonta Smith and…….wait for it….Amari Rodgers!

This is a special class, I really believe that.


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Re: 2024 NFL Draft - five picks in the first three rounds (seven in four! [probably]) 

Post#1486 » by ReasonablySober » Fri Apr 12, 2024 9:41 pm

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ReasonablySober wrote:
RRyder823 wrote:
Is it? Every other year for the past decade has had these high end WR prospects



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2021 is the only recent class that compares. They had Chase, Waddle, and Smith.

Prior to that you have to go back to 2012 with Green and Julio at the top, but it fell off hard after those two. 2004 had Larry Fitz and Roy Williams, 2003 had Charles Rodgers and Andre Johnson.

Outside of 2021, I think this is the best class of prospects since 1996 when Keyshawn Johnson, Terry Glenn, Eddie Kennison, Marvin Harrison, and Eric Moulds went in round one. Later rounds had Amani Toomer, Muhsin Muhammad, Bobby Engram, Joe Horn, and Terrell Owens.

That's the GOAT.


My opinion this class is better. But hard to argue with a class that put out Chase, Waddle, Amon Ra, Nico Collins, Devonta Smith and…….wait for it….Amari Rodgers!

This is a special class, I really believe that.


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I think this class is better too. Probably the best I've seen.
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Re: 2024 NFL Draft - five picks in the first three rounds (seven in four! [probably]) 

Post#1487 » by RRyder823 » Fri Apr 12, 2024 9:51 pm

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ReasonablySober wrote:
RRyder823 wrote:
Is it? Every other year for the past decade has had these high end WR prospects



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2021 is the only recent class that compares. They had Chase, Waddle, and Smith.

Prior to that you have to go back to 2012 with Green and Julio at the top, but it fell off hard after those two. 2004 had Larry Fitz and Roy Williams, 2003 had Charles Rodgers and Andre Johnson.

Outside of 2021, I think this is the best class of prospects since 1996 when Keyshawn Johnson, Terry Glenn, Eddie Kennison, Marvin Harrison, and Eric Moulds went in round one. Later rounds had Amani Toomer, Muhsin Muhammad, Bobby Engram, Joe Horn, and Terrell Owens.

That's the GOAT.


My opinion this class is better. But hard to argue with a class that put out Chase, Waddle, Amon Ra, Nico Collins, Devonta Smith and…….wait for it….Amari Rodgers!

This is a special class, I really believe that.


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Hold up. Are we conflating how a draft turned out with what level the prospects were going into it?

Cause I was commenting on the high end prospects going INTO the draft. Not what they ended up being in the Pros

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Post#1488 » by ReasonablySober » Fri Apr 12, 2024 9:54 pm

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M-C-G wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:
2021 is the only recent class that compares. They had Chase, Waddle, and Smith.

Prior to that you have to go back to 2012 with Green and Julio at the top, but it fell off hard after those two. 2004 had Larry Fitz and Roy Williams, 2003 had Charles Rodgers and Andre Johnson.

Outside of 2021, I think this is the best class of prospects since 1996 when Keyshawn Johnson, Terry Glenn, Eddie Kennison, Marvin Harrison, and Eric Moulds went in round one. Later rounds had Amani Toomer, Muhsin Muhammad, Bobby Engram, Joe Horn, and Terrell Owens.

That's the GOAT.


My opinion this class is better. But hard to argue with a class that put out Chase, Waddle, Amon Ra, Nico Collins, Devonta Smith and…….wait for it….Amari Rodgers!

This is a special class, I really believe that.


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Hold up. Are we conflating how a draft turned out with what level the prospects were going into it?

Cause I was commenting on the high end prospects going INTO the draft. Not what they ended up being in the Pros

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I'm considering how good the prospects are heading into the draft and I'm assuming MCG is too. You can make an argument that four of the five best prospects in the whole class are WR/TE. Certainly four of the top seven.
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Post#1489 » by Ron Swanson » Fri Apr 12, 2024 10:02 pm

2004 is the only draft I can remember that probably compares or was better as far as WR/TE goes. Fitz, Roy Williams, and Kellen Winslow all went in the Top-10. Then you had Reggie Williams, Lee Evans, Michael Clayton Jr., Michael Jenkins, Rashaun Woods, and Ben Watson all going in the 1st round.
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Post#1490 » by LittleRooster » Fri Apr 12, 2024 10:09 pm

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Now, you want to see someone who is "silly" look at Chris Simms putting Brian Thomas Jr as his WR1


That’s honestly just insane.

I really like this WR class a lot. I think there’s multiple guys with star potential. My favorite 1 is Xavier Worthy and not just because of the 4.2 40 speed, I’m not sure I’ve ever seen someone move the way he does. That quick twitch burst he possesses is deadly. I think he has the chance to be the most dynamic playmaker of the whole bunch. But having said that, I certainly wouldn’t draft him over MHj, Nabers or Odunze.

I apologize for being offensive. Calling anyone “silly” for a difference of opinion is poor taste. But like I said before, MHj has been top dog 2yrs running now and I’m struggling to understand what could have possibly changed that? Hes a cut above everyone else just look at the film, its incredible.


Oh don't sweat it, I completely get where you are coming from. Let me ask a hypothetical, how do you think MHJ is in the pros (maybe it was your or Ron) Julio Jones? Faster Mike Evans? something else?

If I think Nabers might be the next Chase or Lamb, how would that compare?

I have a dynasty league with pick 2,3 and 6 and I am salivating at getting 2 out of 3 of Marvin, Nabers and Oduze.

That’d be sick in dynasty. I own pick 12 (humble brag) and am debating offering Aj brown/1.12 for 1.1. Tried Dell/1.12 but declined. Maybe I’m crazy


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Post#1491 » by Frank Nova » Fri Apr 12, 2024 10:18 pm

M-C-G wrote:
Frank Nova wrote:
MVP2110 wrote:
Now, you want to see someone who is "silly" look at Chris Simms putting Brian Thomas Jr as his WR1


That’s honestly just insane.

I really like this WR class a lot. I think there’s multiple guys with star potential. My favorite 1 is Xavier Worthy and not just because of the 4.2 40 speed, I’m not sure I’ve ever seen someone move the way he does. That quick twitch burst he possesses is deadly. I think he has the chance to be the most dynamic playmaker of the whole bunch. But having said that, I certainly wouldn’t draft him over MHj, Nabers or Odunze.

I apologize for being offensive. Calling anyone “silly” for a difference of opinion is poor taste. But like I said before, MHj has been top dog 2yrs running now and I’m struggling to understand what could have possibly changed that? Hes a cut above everyone else just look at the film, its incredible.


Oh don't sweat it, I completely get where you are coming from. Let me ask a hypothetical, how do you think MHJ is in the pros (maybe it was your or Ron) Julio Jones? Faster Mike Evans? something else?

If I think Nabers might be the next Chase or Lamb, how would that compare?

I have a dynasty league with pick 2,3 and 6 and I am salivating at getting 2 out of 3 of Marvin, Nabers and Oduze.


Pretty sure it was Ron that compared MHj to Julio and I definitely think that’s a good one. There’s a lot of similarities with Aj Green too. This might sound crazy but I think Randy Moss is somewhat of a fair comp. Both 6’4” and a little over 200lbs, if MHj ran a sub 4.3 40 I don’t think there would be a lot of discrepancy there. He didn’t run a 40 but his speed certainly pops on tape. Not sure he’s a 4.25 guy like Randy was but MHj was clocked over 22mph on a catch and run last year vs Youngstown State so that’s gotta be atleast in the low 4.3 range.

Nabers is my #2 over Odunze, I can see a Chase/Lamb type ceiling with him. I like it.

I’m in 2 separate dynasty leagues where we draft and sit on 3 college prospects that we can bring up to our rosters after they’re drafted. In 1 league I own the rights to Odunze and the other I own the rights to both Nabers and Brock Bowers. I’m pretty juiced up about that. If you can get 2 of the top 3 guys I’d say you’re pretty set at WR for a good while lol.
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Re: 2024 NFL Draft - five picks in the first three rounds (seven in four! [probably]) 

Post#1492 » by RRyder823 » Fri Apr 12, 2024 10:28 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:
RRyder823 wrote:
M-C-G wrote:
My opinion this class is better. But hard to argue with a class that put out Chase, Waddle, Amon Ra, Nico Collins, Devonta Smith and…….wait for it….Amari Rodgers!

This is a special class, I really believe that.


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Hold up. Are we conflating how a draft turned out with what level the prospects were going into it?

Cause I was commenting on the high end prospects going INTO the draft. Not what they ended up being in the Pros

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I'm considering how good the prospects are heading into the draft and I'm assuming MCG is too. You can make an argument that four of the five best prospects in the whole class are WR/TE. Certainly four of the top seven.
I ask cause when St Brown and a few others from other drafts are listed that's not exactly fitting that criteria

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Post#1493 » by M-C-G » Fri Apr 12, 2024 10:52 pm

RRyder823 wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:
RRyder823 wrote:
Hold up. Are we conflating how a draft turned out with what level the prospects were going into it?

Cause I was commenting on the high end prospects going INTO the draft. Not what they ended up being in the Pros

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I'm considering how good the prospects are heading into the draft and I'm assuming MCG is too. You can make an argument that four of the five best prospects in the whole class are WR/TE. Certainly four of the top seven.
I ask cause when St Brown and a few others from other drafts are listed that's not exactly fitting that criteria

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Fair point, I pulled up a list of WR drafted in 2021 and just plopped the names into the post. To simplify my thought, I think there are 3 all pro WR and maybe more in this class. I just think it is that good.
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Post#1494 » by Swan Vox » Sat Apr 13, 2024 4:46 pm

This is looking like a weird draft for the way its strengths and weaknesses match up with what the Packers need in the first round. Not too thrilled with #25 as a slot overall. I guess OL could be the pick, but tough to get excited about it with the way Green Bay usually finds those guys in later rounds.

Who are you all getting EXCITED about picking in RD 1 that might actually be there?
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Post#1495 » by nagawicka » Sat Apr 13, 2024 5:51 pm

Swan Vox wrote:This is looking like a weird draft for the way its strengths and weaknesses match up with what the Packers need in the first round. Not too thrilled with #25 as a slot overall. I guess OL could be the pick, but tough to get excited about it with the way Green Bay usually finds those guys in later rounds.

Who are you all getting EXCITED about picking in RD 1 that might actually be there?

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Post#1496 » by ReasonablySober » Sat Apr 13, 2024 6:34 pm

Swan Vox wrote:This is looking like a weird draft for the way its strengths and weaknesses match up with what the Packers need in the first round. Not too thrilled with #25 as a slot overall. I guess OL could be the pick, but tough to get excited about it with the way Green Bay usually finds those guys in later rounds.

Who are you all getting EXCITED about picking in RD 1 that might actually be there?


Any of the defensive linemen. Latu, Murphy, Verse, or Newton. In that order. They could all be gone, but my guess is one of them is still around. I'd be psyched.
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Post#1497 » by Treebeard » Sat Apr 13, 2024 7:16 pm

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Post#1498 » by jakecronus8 » Sat Apr 13, 2024 9:59 pm

Supposedly Bishop’s stock is skyrocketing all the way up to S1 in this draft for some teams. Not likely he’ll be around for us at 58 and maybe not even at 41. I think he’s the perfect compliment to Professor X.
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Post#1499 » by Reddeye » Sun Apr 14, 2024 4:37 pm

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Post#1500 » by Treebeard » Sun Apr 14, 2024 5:11 pm

For the analytics minded, a historical snapshot of player metrics for Packer draft picks. The originator of the base study is a one time PFF and Jets staffer.

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