NBA4Lyfe wrote:rk2023 wrote:NBA4Lyfe wrote:
ok how about you show me a metric where steve nash is better than prime harden in anything
• Prime O-RAPM
• Box Creation
• Passer Rating
• Thinking Basketball OBPM
That doesn’t even get into eye-test
rapm is no longer used, too volatile/inconsistent of a metric same as rpm
what seasons of nashs box creation is better than prime harden lol
thinking basketball is biased and a notorious harden hater. ben taylor has been called out for being biased towards players with huge fanbases like iverson to get funding for his overrated website lol. ben should have stopped being taken seriously when he alledged that harden isn’t better than wade because wade was a “better portable” player in comparison to harden when all harden has done since leaving houston is produce all nba level szns.( not hardens fault the media hates him) so harden is left without all-nba/ all-star honors
harden can historically produce top 10-15 level impact with a lower usage rate and be borderline top 3 player in the league with a high usage rate. ben taylor is hater
1. Ok cool? Regardless of your opinion around its' stability - you asked for a metric to show you that Nash is better than Harden. RAPM is a metric that grades Nash over Harden.
2. Nash's highest RS mark in Box Creation was 16.1 in the 2006-07 season and 17 that playoffs. Same logic for Harden - 18.5 in the 2017-18 season and 15.1 in the playoffs. Harden might look better there in the regular season, but playoffs (more meaningful basketball, mind you) is where Nash takes the cake here. Harden's 2015-20 playoff Box OC was 12.7 - whereas Nash's from 2005-10 was 14.3. (Both of these were the true prime spans for each player).
3. I don't even know how to address the last part, just reads like conspiracy thinker ramblings. This has nothing to do with the original question, and I am certain all of that is useful with regards to discussing metrics.