Onus wrote:SinceGatlingWasARookie wrote:Onus wrote:Yup Bob is the one who screwed us with his draft picks. Just horrible drafting by him.
I’ve got to commend Bob for leaving when he knew he couldn’t do the job anymore because he was more of a friend than a gm. Now if only kerr also had some self reflection and realized he’s no longer suitable to the head coach here.
Bob’s drafts were not really horrible. The draft classes were horrible.
If I was using the number 2 pick I would draft Wiseman. Wiseman’s upside potential fit with what we needed and there was nobody but Haliburton that we could have drafted that would have helped us. 10 other teams also failed to realize that Haliburton was the 2nd best player in the draft. Bob not being exceptional does no make Bob bad.
We probably should have traded the Wiseman pick.
I might draft Kuminga again.
A couple guys were better than Moody at 14 but that is normal for a 14th pick. Moody was not a bad pick. Kuminga was not a bad pick.
Believing in 2 timelines was dumb but if we were not going to trade the Wiseman pick drafting Wiseman was not a bad pick. I failed to predict Wiseman’s downside but the draft experts who all had Wiseman in their top 4 also failed to predict Wiseman’s downside.
The wiseman draft is whatever. Terrible draft. Took a swing and missed. Whatever.
The 2021 draft though is what killed us. Not drafting Franz and Murphy or Sengun or Herb. Not getting a real rotation player (not one that whined their way into one) from that draft killed the franchise when that draft was littered with impact players drafted after us at the same exact positions that we drafted.
JK was a terrible pick especially considering Franz fits exactly into what we do and what we need. They drafted in hopes of a superstar for a 2nd timeline rather than building on the system we have in place.
Moody was fine as a 14th pick but the fact we missed out on both picks just hurts even more. Not getting a single impact player out of that draft hurts.
Let's say we did draft Franz and Murhpy. Do we still win the title in 21-22? That's a hard one considering we needed everything to go right and playing two rookies that demanded minutes with their play may have cost us a few games.
I also don't think it's clear that Franz will become the better player. It was obvious last year but became less obvious during JKs Jan/Feb this season. It may be just a coincidence that the minute the magic's games started to matter, Franz's shot fell off a cliff. We'll see him in the playoffs this year so it''ll make some things clear. Franz has also had all the minutes he could handle in his first 3 seasons. Would he look anywhere near the player he became with the magic if he was stuck behind wigs, klay, beli, gp2, opj, dray and let's not forget anthony lamb during his first two seasons?
Pretty sure murphy would be better than moody in any situation but the rest of this board is much higher on MM than I am. Not sure Sengun is allowed to crater the defense and make as many mistakes as the focal point of the offense on this team. Actually, I am sure - he would not be allowed to do any of that. Hindsight is 20/20 and missing on picks hurt. Getting literally 0 value back for wiseman was awful. Not the drafting but not recognizing soon enough he wouldn't fit and moving him for something that can contribute (hell, even sadiq bey would have been preferable to gp2, whom they could have just signed).
The real move that draft year would have been drafting lamelo and moving him the following summer. That take a level of prescience that I can't blame Meyers for not having.