Jontay Porter banned from the NBA

NZB2323 · Post #81 » by **NZB2323** » Wed Apr 17, 2024 4:54 pm

firedavidkahn wrote:Beating your wife: A-ok!

Betting: banned for life

Make it make sense

The CBA protects the players and gambling affects the integrity of the game.

spanishninja · Post #82 » by **spanishninja** » Wed Apr 17, 2024 4:55 pm

NZB2323 wrote:
spanishninja wrote:hey, uh we should ban MPJ as well, "for the integrity of the game"! there is no way to definitively confirm that he didn't profit from his bro's gambling.

Innocent until proven guilty. If my brother commits a crime that doesn’t make me guilty.

I was obviously being facetious lol. Still, be hilarious if MPJ risked a $200m contract for a $200 parlay lol.

kenwood3333 · Post #83 » by **kenwood3333** » Wed Apr 17, 2024 4:55 pm

Sounds excessive. The league needs to review its own referees first on the topic of integrity.

elchengue20 · Post #84 » by **elchengue20** » Wed Apr 17, 2024 4:56 pm

Obviously this is starting to become a dangerous trend for some part of NBA players and they choose a bum to make an example for everybody else, like they always do.

Same thing has happened in the past with steroids abuse.

phanman · Post #85 » by **phanman** » Wed Apr 17, 2024 4:56 pm

ChipotleWest wrote:
Tor_Raps wrote:
ChipotleWest wrote:
In this case he deserves a ban, it was not just him gambling. He was tanking prop bets that were for him so his friends and probably he could win money. That is so messed up.

So is beating your wife and leaving her battered and bruised. Just want Silver to admit that he thinks that deserves 2nd chances but addiction to gambling doesn't.

You're right about beating your wife, but this was NOT a gambling ban and you just repeated it again. I just explained he was purposely doing his job bad.

Dude it takes 5 minutes to read the articles and tweets from Woj. It's clearly a gambling ban as evidenced by the life time term man. :roll:

Those who think that he didn't deserve a life time sentence, need to seriously think about what he did. He not only screwed his team but this completely messes with the integrity of the game and most importantly all these new betting partners that are just pumping money into the league. His bets have all been confirmed and investigated and it's much easier to ban a fringe NBA player than a marquee franchise player like Bridges (who took his punishment with the no contest and still dealing with the consequences).

sp6r=underrated · Post #86 » by **sp6r=underrated** » Wed Apr 17, 2024 4:57 pm

Eyeamok · Post #87 » by **Eyeamok** » Wed Apr 17, 2024 4:57 pm

Actually the NBA is probably very happy that Jontay Porter is the guy they get to ban for life. When getting into bed with gambling the NBA had to figure on one day a player would get caught gambling. Porter is not a big name but he has big name association, his brother. So the NBA gets to throw the book at a guy who is not a star and yet has star association. And they get to come off as being very serious about preserving the integrity of the game.

Lord_Zedd · Post #88 » by **Lord_Zedd** » Wed Apr 17, 2024 4:57 pm

Tor_Raps wrote:
Lord_Zedd wrote:
Dan Z wrote:Wow. He didn't bet on any NBA games...correct? Or am I wrong about that?

He even bet on his own team to lose....... lol

Read on Twitter

Bruh... raptors have been openly tanking for half of the year. We all bet on them to lose because that was the organizational goal lol.

I think he lost on that bet too

Post #89 » by **G R E Y** » Wed Apr 17, 2024 4:58 pm

azcatz11 wrote:Wow - imagine throwing away the opportunity of a lifetime to be a complete degenerate. Complete moron

One of those too clever for his own good types.

FAFO

Silver Hammer brought down.

Post #90 » by **Rich Rane** » Wed Apr 17, 2024 4:58 pm

NZB2323 wrote:
Rich Rane wrote:The NBA! We don't condone betting, but we'll sure promote it! Bet on games with these betting gaming operators!
https://www.nba.com/fantasy/authorized-gaming-operators

Fans can bet on games, players can’t.

Gambling being legalized and at legit sports books helps them catch this kind of thing. It’s better than it being on the black market.

I get it. I really do, but it's still funny (to me at least) that every sports league is shoving betting in the fans' faces every commercial break (and sometimes even during games), but also trying to take a moral stance here by punishing a player for betting.

Tor_Raps · Post #91 » by **Tor_Raps** » Wed Apr 17, 2024 4:58 pm

NZB2323 wrote:
firedavidkahn wrote:Beating your wife: A-ok!

Betting: banned for life

Make it make sense

The CBA protects the players and gambling affects the integrity of the game.

So does doing steroids by overly inflating your statistics. They're given multiple chances...

Nba is in bed with gambling companies and that's the only reason why this penalty is so severe.

chilluminati · Post #92 » by **chilluminati** » Wed Apr 17, 2024 5:00 pm

Eh, I don't like it. There is a moral dilemma at play here.

hippesthippo · Post #93 » by **hippesthippo** » Wed Apr 17, 2024 5:00 pm

UcanUwill wrote:
hippesthippo wrote:
Bulliever2020 wrote:
Yeah I'm sure he doesn't care at all that he's now banned from the highest level of the sport that he spent his whole life working on and is now known as the Pete Rose of the NBA. I'm sure he'll just go on with his daily life like nothing happened.

I'm not even sure any Euro or NBL teams will touch him. He's essentially lost his only source of income. Dude is ****. He's going to have to start over from square one in life. That's... not good.

Gambling is so common-place now, on *everything*, that no team is going to risk their integrity for a maybe above-average, oft-injured talent who was caught point-shaving red-handed.

Yesterday it was revealed that he had the whole betting operation running, seems that was always his biggest source of income. That said, he is probably banned from making bets altogether, easier to bypass that ban, but if he's caught, would get into more trouble. Guy might just need to get a regular job, terrible terrible fate lol.

Yes, I agree that no team probably touches him now.

I gathered as much reading through Woj's tweets. Just saw the actual report.

Getting a regular job isn't the end of the world. It's how we all live. However, I gather most of us have known that and have been preparing as such since our formative years. Porter has probably never known anything other than basketball.

I'm just saying he more than likely cares. How could he not?

UcanUwill · Post #94 » by **UcanUwill** » Wed Apr 17, 2024 5:01 pm

Rich Rane wrote:This NBA ban for betting was brought to you by FanDuel and DraftKings. FanDuel and DraftKings, the OFFICIAL betting partners of the NBA.

OK people. Just to be clear, I get some here hate betting, but there is quite clear difference between being legal partner of betting, and illegal betting and fixing games. I also think there is a difference between supporting second ammendment and shooting up school, extreme example I know, but in both scenarios the difference is clear and it is silly to parallel the two things. Also, you might know how I feel about second ammendment, so to me, example honestly is not even that extreme, if you support that you are not my friend.

Also, we been through wive beating stuff Also... Assault is a bad crime, but are we advocating for all closed businesses banning people who did something terrible in the past?

SweaterBae · Post #95 » by **SweaterBae** » Wed Apr 17, 2024 5:01 pm

Officiating is what destroys the integrity of the game. The NBA loves when this happens so they can take the pretend high road in the name of "integrity".

HotelVitale · Post #96 » by **HotelVitale** » Wed Apr 17, 2024 5:01 pm

phanman wrote:
ChipotleWest wrote:
Tor_Raps wrote:
So is beating your wife and leaving her battered and bruised. Just want Silver to admit that he thinks that deserves 2nd chances but addiction to gambling doesn't.

You're right about beating your wife, but this was NOT a gambling ban and you just repeated it again. I just explained he was purposely doing his job bad.

Dude it takes 5 minutes to read the articles and tweets from Woj. It's clearly a gambling ban as evidenced by the life time term man.

Those who think that he didn't deserve a life time sentence, need to seriously think about what he did. He not only screwed his team but this completely messes with the integrity of the game and most importantly all these new betting partners that are just pumping money into the league. His bets have all been confirmed and investigated and it's much easier to ban a fringe NBA player than a marquee franchise player like Bridges (who took his punishment with the no contest and still dealing with the consequences).

There's no point comparing what he did to other things, he got this punishment because the NBA knows it has to hold an extremely firm line on integrity of play stuff. A scandal with any credibility about players fixing games would cost the NBA big both directly and even more so in terms of its branding.

It'd be like working at a bank and committing some relatively minor financial crimes because of your bank access, versus getting some serious agg assault charges. The agg assault might be worse but it's much more of a no brainer to immediately get you the hell away from that bank because of the financial crime.

YogurtProducer · Post #97 » by **YogurtProducer** » Wed Apr 17, 2024 5:04 pm

ChipotleWest wrote:He was barely an NBA player, probably wouldn't have been in the league in two years anyway. Not sure how much he cares.

Not true really. He was really promising when he actually played. Was looking like a lock for a full time deal

UcanUwill · Post #98 » by **UcanUwill** » Wed Apr 17, 2024 5:04 pm

Rich Rane wrote:
NZB2323 wrote:
Rich Rane wrote:The NBA! We don't condone betting, but we'll sure promote it! Bet on games with these betting gaming operators!
https://www.nba.com/fantasy/authorized-gaming-operators

Fans can bet on games, players can’t.

Gambling being legalized and at legit sports books helps them catch this kind of thing. It’s better than it being on the black market.

I get it. I really do, but it's still funny (to me at least) that every sports league is shoving betting in the fans' faces every commercial break (and sometimes even during games), but also trying to take a moral stance here by punishing a player for betting.

They are not punishing player for betting, players can bet, it is legal hobby. He is getting punished for fixing his own games for betting reasons, do you really do not see the difference?

NYPiston · Post #99 » by **NYPiston** » Wed Apr 17, 2024 5:05 pm

ChipotleWest wrote:
Tor_Raps wrote:Keep beating your wives and parading around your guns boys lol

In this case he deserves a ban, it was not just him gambling. He was tanking prop bets that were for him so his friends and probably he could win money. That is so messed up.

The point isn't that Porter didn't deserve it, the point is that the NBA hands out far lesser punishments for far more egregious acts.

Post #100 » by **Rich Rane** » Wed Apr 17, 2024 5:07 pm

UcanUwill wrote:
Rich Rane wrote:
NZB2323 wrote:
Fans can bet on games, players can’t.

Gambling being legalized and at legit sports books helps them catch this kind of thing. It’s better than it being on the black market.

I get it. I really do, but it's still funny (to me at least) that every sports league is shoving betting in the fans' faces every commercial break (and sometimes even during games), but also trying to take a moral stance here by punishing a player for betting.

They are not punishing player for betting, players can bet, it is legal hobby. He is getting punished for fixing his own games for betting reasons, do you really do not see the difference?

NBA players can't bet on games in the NBA or its partners (WNBA, G-League, Summer League, etc.).