Jontay Porter banned from the NBA

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Re: Jontay Porter banned from the NBA 

Post#101 » by ChipotleWest » Wed Apr 17, 2024 5:08 pm

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So is beating your wife and leaving her battered and bruised. Just want Silver to admit that he thinks that deserves 2nd chances but addiction to gambling doesn't.


You're right about beating your wife, but this was NOT a gambling ban and you just repeated it again. I just explained he was purposely doing his job bad.

Dude it takes 5 minutes to read the articles and tweets from Woj. It's clearly a gambling ban as evidenced by the life time term man. :roll:

Those who think that he didn't deserve a life time sentence, need to seriously think about what he did. He not only screwed his team but this completely messes with the integrity of the game and most importantly all these new betting partners that are just pumping money into the league. His bets have all been confirmed and investigated and it's much easier to ban a fringe NBA player than a marquee franchise player like Bridges (who took his punishment with the no contest and still dealing with the consequences).


You're the one who didn't read and doesn't understand fully what actually happened. You're practically talking to yourself about it taking 5 minutes but you didn't do it, shameful to attack something else when you're the guilty one.

"The league's investigation also found that Porter limited his own game participation to influence the outcome of one or more bets on his performance in a Raptors game"

Does that sound like he just gambled on a game? No he actually influenced the bets by tanking prop bets, like I've said 20 times in this thread already! Geez some of you are helpless.
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Post#102 » by Eyeamok » Wed Apr 17, 2024 5:09 pm

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azcatz11 wrote:Wow - imagine throwing away the opportunity of a lifetime to be a complete degenerate. Complete moron

One of those too clever for his own good types.

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Seriously I think his opportunity of a lifetime was actually just playing in the NBA and having the ability to make money gambling on games. He probably figured he would never be a star always a fringe player/G league player. Maybe he might be able to play in Europe. But being on an actual NBA team was a change to make some big money gambling. He probably weighed the pros and cons and figured if he could get away with this for a while it would be worth it.
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Re: Jontay Porter banned from the NBA 

Post#103 » by advent11 » Wed Apr 17, 2024 5:09 pm

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Tor_Raps wrote:Keep beating your wives and parading around your guns boys lol


In this case he deserves a ban, it was not just him gambling. He was tanking prop bets that were for him so his friends and probably he could win money. That is so messed up.


The point isn't that Porter didn't deserve it, the point is that the NBA hands out far lesser punishments for far more egregious acts.


Jeopardizing the integrity of the game is the most egregious act you can commit from the league's perspective. Rightfully so.
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Re: Jontay Porter banned from the NBA 

Post#104 » by Chuck Everett » Wed Apr 17, 2024 5:09 pm

Always remember the NBA let referee Eric Lewis retire and then immediately closed the investigation (in the last year). This league has no integrity. You can ban a fringe NBA guy, but another corrupt referee would have far sweeping consequences.
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Post#105 » by UglyBugBall » Wed Apr 17, 2024 5:11 pm

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spanishninja wrote:hey, uh we should ban MPJ as well, "for the integrity of the game"! there is no way to definitively confirm that he didn't profit from his bro's gambling.


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Post#106 » by KembaWalker » Wed Apr 17, 2024 5:13 pm

Just because they use the same mechanism ie suspension it doesn’t mean the decisions are made the same way

Suspensions for criminal behavior are moral
Suspensions for gambling are business

They aren’t claiming gambling is worse than domestic violence. This is purely a business decision and isn’t even attempting to be portrayed as some moral grandstanding.
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Post#107 » by The Real Dalic » Wed Apr 17, 2024 5:13 pm

Absolutely deserved, but we all know that if he was even a Derozan level player, he would've just been slapped on the wrist. I hope if someone like Anthony Davis or Zion was caught doing this the result would be the same. You've set the precedent. Stay consistent.
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Post#108 » by M2J » Wed Apr 17, 2024 5:13 pm

The NBA could have just given him a one-year or 2-year ban. Which would have completed the same thing as he probably would never have gotten a chance to get back into the league.

That's only an issue for me in case there are questions about an actual star.

For those trying to be keyboard Warriors with your hidden names bringing up people like Miles Bridges. It's totally not the same thing. What Porter has done literally caused into question the integrity of the game. I know plenty of people who believe these games are truly fixed already, so why would they want to bet on them?
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Post#109 » by alebaba » Wed Apr 17, 2024 5:13 pm

Shock Defeat wrote:Crazy how he got banned while Ohtani is still playing cause his translator was able to take the fall



Man, shut up. The IRS, Homeland Security, MLB, and the feds all cleared Ohtani, but we've got morons like you thinking Ippei is the fall guy with no evidence. The feds have both Ippei and Ohtani's phones, checked their entire message history, and found nothing on gambling

ps.This dude actually bet on the Nba.
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Post#110 » by UcanUwill » Wed Apr 17, 2024 5:14 pm

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I get it. I really do, but it's still funny (to me at least) that every sports league is shoving betting in the fans' faces every commercial break (and sometimes even during games), but also trying to take a moral stance here by punishing a player for betting.

They are not punishing player for betting, players can bet, it is legal hobby. He is getting punished for fixing his own games for betting reasons, do you really do not see the difference?


NBA players can't bet on games in the NBA or its partners (WNBA, G-League, Summer League, etc.).


Well yes, because of potential inside information advantage, which just like in stock market, is illegal. But if the guy was just caught making a wnba game bet, he wouldn't have received life ban. He fixed and tanked his own performances.

People so blinded by their betting hatred, they do not see how this hurts the game, are you guys serious? The only reason for this ban is because NBA is in bed with them? I mean they are, but they weren't, it hurts the leagues whole integrity just the same and the ban would be the same. If you imprint idea that player might fix his performance, if you imprint that idea in fans mind, NBA is terrible shape then, no one would take seriously anymore.
We had these betting scandals before, the punishments were always severe despite how much of a league partners with betting agencies.
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Post#111 » by KembaWalker » Wed Apr 17, 2024 5:16 pm

M2J wrote:The NBA could have just given him a one-year or 2-year ban. Which would have completed the same thing as he probably would never have gotten a chance to get back into the league.

That's only an issue for me in case there are questions about an actual star.

For those trying to be keyboard Warriors with your hidden names bringing up people like Miles Bridges. It's totally not the same thing. What Porter has done literally caused into question the integrity of the game. I know plenty of people who believe these games are truly fixed already, so why would they want to bet on them?


1-2 year ban is appropriate for some guy betting on an app on the toilet, whatever

Essentially running a gambling company and funneling millions of dollars through it with a whole network of people is something else entirely
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Post#112 » by alebaba » Wed Apr 17, 2024 5:17 pm

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UcanUwill wrote: They are not punishing player for betting, players can bet, it is legal hobby. He is getting punished for fixing his own games for betting reasons, do you really do not see the difference?


NBA players can't bet on games in the NBA or its partners (WNBA, G-League, Summer League, etc.).


Well yes, because of potential inside information advantage, which just like in stock market, is illegal. But if the guy was just caught making a wnba game bet, he wouldn't have received life ban. He fixed and tanked his own performances.

People so blinded by their betting hatred, they do not see how this hurts the game, are you guys serious? The only reason for this ban is because NBA is in bed with them? I mean they are, but they weren't, it hurts the leagues whole integrity just the same and the ban would be the same. If you imprint idea that player might fix his performance, if you imprint that idea in fans mind, NBA is terrible shape then, no one would take seriously anymore.
We had these betting scandals before, the punishments were always severe despite how much of a league partners with betting agencies.


Ppl are dumb, and think if this was Zion or any superstar itll be a slap on the wrist. lmao
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Post#113 » by Michael Jackson » Wed Apr 17, 2024 5:17 pm

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Post#114 » by Capn'O » Wed Apr 17, 2024 5:17 pm

Rich Rane wrote:This NBA ban for betting was brought to you by FanDuel and DraftKings. FanDuel and DraftKings, the OFFICIAL betting partners of the NBA.


Ban for life was easy money.
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Post#115 » by Bobbymcgee » Wed Apr 17, 2024 5:18 pm

Maybe he watched too many NBA sponsored commercials on sports betting.
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Post#116 » by azcatz11 » Wed Apr 17, 2024 5:19 pm

M2J wrote:The NBA could have just given him a one-year or 2-year ban. Which would have completed the same thing as he probably would never have gotten a chance to get back into the league.

That's only an issue for me in case there are questions about an actual star.

For those trying to be keyboard Warriors with your hidden names bringing up people like Miles Bridges. It's totally not the same thing. What Porter has done literally caused into question the integrity of the game. I know plenty of people who believe these games are truly fixed already, so why would they want to bet on them?


Well I see their side tbh. One is morally reprehensible and the other ruins the integrity of the game. The league is also in bed with the gambling websites and wants to take literally all of our money. They want to wipe us clean. There’s an issue here
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Re: Jontay Porter banned from the NBA 

Post#117 » by Rich Rane » Wed Apr 17, 2024 5:20 pm

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Rich Rane wrote:This NBA ban for betting was brought to you by FanDuel and DraftKings. FanDuel and DraftKings, the OFFICIAL betting partners of the NBA.


Ban for life was easy money.


Was there a bet for that and I missed it?!
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Post#118 » by Capn'O » Wed Apr 17, 2024 5:21 pm

NY2k1 wrote:Not to say this isn't deserved, because it is, but I wonder what the NBA would have done or do if this was someone like Lebron James or an upcoming superstar like Wembanyama. Someone like Jontay Porter is essentially a nobody, so it's easy to just lifetime ban him.


I think they were fortunate this was the first case that came to light. You can set a precedent without a huge impact to the league.
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Post#119 » by Capn'O » Wed Apr 17, 2024 5:21 pm

Rich Rane wrote:
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Rich Rane wrote:This NBA ban for betting was brought to you by FanDuel and DraftKings. FanDuel and DraftKings, the OFFICIAL betting partners of the NBA.


Ban for life was easy money.


Was there a bet for that and I missed it?!


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Post#120 » by Tor_Raps » Wed Apr 17, 2024 5:22 pm

KembaWalker wrote:Just because they use the same mechanism ie suspension it doesn’t mean the decisions are made the same way

Suspensions for criminal behavior are moral
Suspensions for gambling are business

They aren’t claiming gambling is worse than domestic violence. This is purely a business decision and isn’t even attempting to be portrayed as some moral grandstanding.


And many people have an issue with the nba being in bed with gambling companies. People wouldnt care as much if the nba weren't shoving their morals down our throat most of the time. Extremely hypocritical.

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