Jontay Porter banned from the NBA

[The Real Dalic]

Absolutely deserved, but we all know that if he was even a Derozan level player, he would've just been slapped on the wrist. I hope if someone like Anthony Davis or Zion was caught doing this the result would be the same. You've set the precedent. Stay consistent.

If a huge name star is caught betting on their team to lose, they should be banned for life as well. And the league would face heavy scrutiny if they didn't.

The league can survive without Anthony Davis or Zion playing. The league can't survive if the public feels like players are not being competitive for gambling reasons.

I hope so. But my guess is that they would suspend them 25-50 games and allow them back in. Could be wrong though.

[Chuck Everett]

his discord is protecting the guy who sold his team

If his discord is full of crypto gamblers are you surprised?

[WentzerWuver]

He was barely an NBA player, probably wouldn't have been in the league in two years anyway. Not sure how much he cares.

Yeah I'm sure he doesn't care at all that he's now banned from the highest level of the sport that he spent his whole life working on and is now known as the Pete Rose of the NBA. I'm sure he'll just go on with his daily life like nothing happened.

Pete NEVER bet on his own team to lose. And he is a nobody while Rose is still the all-time MLB leader in hits (4,256), games played (3,562), AB (14,053), singles (3,215) that no player can come to besides all the gold glove awards he won.

You should be ashamed to compare the two.

[Wile E. Coyote]

Shoeless Joe Jackson was banned for life from baseball over a hundred years ago and they still haven’t forgiven him. Gambling isn’t something that a 25 or 50 game sentence will fix.

[NZB2323]

What more need be said? Gambling is degenerate behavior. Same with cheating on your wife. Or whatever other social norms we have created in the last 200,000 years that we look at as bad for these reasons. You do you...I don't care. But lets not act like it's acceptable behavior. It's no better than doing drugs to your health. It's just another way to get your brain to push out excess stimulants to feel good in an unhealthy way.

It's an addictive vice that has massive negatives and has no real benefits to society or the individual.

Caffeine, alcohol, social media, and McDonald’s are also addictive. If someone has caffeine, alcohol, social media, or McDonald’s does that make them a scumbag? Can all those things be compared to cheating on your wife, or is it okay in moderation and something that only a Puritan would condemn?

Is discussing sports on an online message board good for society or does that count as a vice also? Is debating people on Realgm a healthy behavior?

There are levels of bad. McDonalds and crack are pretty horrible. Social Media can be even worse...or could be less so. Caffeine is pretty healthy even if it's also addicting. Alcohol (see my last message on this topic) is clearly horrible for society on the whole.

Debate is a good question. One the one hand it keeps our minds sharp. On the other, we tend to fall into arguments that aren't positive.

The force I took on gambling was to make a point. The NBA is standing firmly in bed with something that is unquestionably bad for us as a society and for most individuals (some people are fine doing it). This goes beyond say letting McDonalds or bud poison people through ads. We accept that life comes with risks and adults get to make their own choices. But the NBA isn't just saying "hey, we'll put your logo on our court". They're letting people actively spend money through these companies while at their events! They've gone from sponsored to having a symbiotic relationship.

I don’t see how that’s any different from selling beer and hot dogs at NBA games.

In moderation, beer, hot dogs, and gambling are fine. It’s not the same thing as cheating on your wife.

[reddyplayerone]

He was barely an NBA player, probably wouldn't have been in the league in two years anyway. Not sure how much he cares.

Yeah I'm sure he doesn't care at all that he's now banned from the highest level of the sport that he spent his whole life working on and is now known as the Pete Rose of the NBA. I'm sure he'll just go on with his daily life like nothing happened.

Pete NEVER bet on his own team to lose. And he is a nobody while Rose is the base hit king of baseball and HOF'mer.

Big difference!

He's also this guy:

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/sports/baseball-legend-pete-rose-accused-sex-minor-1970s-faces-tainted-n788551

[Nate505]

Absolutely deserved, but we all know that if he was even a Derozan level player, he would've just been slapped on the wrist. I hope if someone like Anthony Davis or Zion was caught doing this the result would be the same. You've set the precedent. Stay consistent.

If a huge name star is caught betting on their team to lose, they should be banned for life as well. And the league would face heavy scrutiny if they didn't.

The league can survive without Anthony Davis or Zion playing. The league can't survive if the public feels like players are not being competitive for gambling reasons.

I hope so. But my guess is that they would suspend them 25-50 games and allow them back in. Could be wrong though.

It's possible, but they criticism they would take would be huge. At that point the public is not only thinking "why should I bet on these games if they let players back in who are throwing them," they are also thinking "what is the point of watching this sport if it's as scripted as WWE is."

I mean people already think the scripted part when it's just inconsistent reffing, but this would be a much more compelling argument.

[ORLMagicGirl15]

Problem for league now is they gotta police leaking of every player's personal injury info. What if an MRI tech leaked what he saw and said so and so player is going to be out? A team's physio let slip how he's treating an athlete to another physio. A team driver would have inside info on each and every athlete based on how they are limping when they walk, overhear conversations etc. This is WORSE than SEC having to police stock trading information based on mergers and acquisitions. At least in M&A negotiations are limited to 2 very small teams from each side. Here this information is available to everyone who's interacting with the team on a day to day basis.

If a tech leak anything out that is a HIPPA violation and much worst than an NBA lifetime ban.

[Blacksheep25]

It’s amazing how quickly an innocent American boy was corrupted by playing for a rogue organization.

Quite the cautionary tale

[Wile E. Coyote]

He was barely an NBA player, probably wouldn't have been in the league in two years anyway. Not sure how much he cares.

Yeah I'm sure he doesn't care at all that he's now banned from the highest level of the sport that he spent his whole life working on and is now known as the Pete Rose of the NBA. I'm sure he'll just go on with his daily life like nothing happened.

Pete NEVER bet on his own team to lose. And he is a nobody while Rose is the base hit king of baseball and HOF'mer.

Big difference!

The problem with Rose is that even though he bet on his team to win it affected the careers of his players by how he played them. Danny Jackson pitched way too much a couple of seasons and broke down early. In the NBA this would be similar to a coach playing a guy 46 minutes a game every night and they blow out an Achilles.

[WentzerWuver]

Yeah I'm sure he doesn't care at all that he's now banned from the highest level of the sport that he spent his whole life working on and is now known as the Pete Rose of the NBA. I'm sure he'll just go on with his daily life like nothing happened.

Pete NEVER bet on his own team to lose. And he is a nobody while Rose is the base hit king of baseball and HOF'mer.

Big difference!

He's also this guy:

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/sports/baseball-legend-pete-rose-accused-sex-minor-1970s-faces-tainted-n788551

Everybody knew that was BS just to keep him from being a HOF. You don't know anything but making accusations cause you enjoy it.

[srhcan]

Agree with the lifetime ban. Also should start investigating his brother now.

[dhsilv2]

Pick a lane

You do you and accept that we can be degenerates. I sure as hell am one...

Like I said, y'all do realize you do not have to come onto the internet and tell on yourselves, right?

Tell on for what? I didn't say I committed a crime. I'm not a great person. Most of us aren't. The world would be a far better place if people just accepted their mistakes. My car was hit a few months ago when it was parked. My first thought....I knew that parking spot was risky! I shouldn't have parked there! Yeah sure...it's the fault of the person who HIT MY CAR...but I was to blame too. It's sad most people wouldn't accept that.

[Wargreymon]

I wonder if michael porter jr is guilty for betting on nuggets games. Could run in the family but like someone else posted earlier, innocent until proven guilty and not guilty by association. Also Jontay is smart for betting the Raps to lose lol. You don’t need insider info for that to be a given…

[Domejandro]

It will be interesting to see what happens if/when a big name player does this. Highly, highly doubt his brother would have gotten a lifetime ban for this.

Michael Porter Jr. absolutely would have been given a lifetime ban.

[dhsilv2]

Caffeine, alcohol, social media, and McDonald’s are also addictive. If someone has caffeine, alcohol, social media, or McDonald’s does that make them a scumbag? Can all those things be compared to cheating on your wife, or is it okay in moderation and something that only a Puritan would condemn?

Is discussing sports on an online message board good for society or does that count as a vice also? Is debating people on Realgm a healthy behavior?

There are levels of bad. McDonalds and crack are pretty horrible. Social Media can be even worse...or could be less so. Caffeine is pretty healthy even if it's also addicting. Alcohol (see my last message on this topic) is clearly horrible for society on the whole.

Debate is a good question. One the one hand it keeps our minds sharp. On the other, we tend to fall into arguments that aren't positive.

The force I took on gambling was to make a point. The NBA is standing firmly in bed with something that is unquestionably bad for us as a society and for most individuals (some people are fine doing it). This goes beyond say letting McDonalds or bud poison people through ads. We accept that life comes with risks and adults get to make their own choices. But the NBA isn't just saying "hey, we'll put your logo on our court". They're letting people actively spend money through these companies while at their events! They've gone from sponsored to having a symbiotic relationship.

I don’t see how that’s any different from selling beer and hot dogs at NBA games.

In moderation, beer, hot dogs, and gambling are fine. It’s not the same thing as cheating on your wife.

That's your view and that's cool. We disagree.

[Tim_Hardawayy]

I’m so confused by all the “but what about wifebeaters and guns!” posts, would people be happier if he got a slap on the wrist?

[Nate505]

It will be interesting to see what happens if/when a big name player does this. Highly, highly doubt his brother would have gotten a lifetime ban for this.

Michael Porter Jr. absolutely would have been given a lifetime ban.

Yeah, the idea the league would ruin their integrity for Michael Porter Jr. is absurd.

I can see them doing it for a Lebron or Jordan type, but with them I think they'd be more likely to try to bury the story as much as they could.

[ReasonablySober]

Robby Kaland, writer at UPROXX, made the best point in all of this.

2. This Is Why Leagues Like Legal Sports Betting
While there are absolutely problems with people having immediate, 24/7 access to sports betting on their phones and the addictive quality of sports betting, the leagues love it because it’s regulated and because legal books flag this kind of action. Unregulated bookies aren’t going to call up the league and tell them there’s something questionable going on, because, well, their entire operation is questionable. A great example of this is what baseball is going through right now with Shohei Ohtani’s interpreter, Ippei Mizuhara, and how that only came to light due to a federal investigation into that illegal bookmaking enterprise. The leagues have certainly enjoyed the financial benefits of sportsbooks wanting to be league partners, but they also enjoy having a relationship with the books to allow them to be aware quickly of this sort of activity (and have records).

There are conversations to be had about legal sports betting, how sportsbooks can be predatory, and the problems that can arise from giving people easy access to betting on their phones. But in terms of the integrity of the sports themselves, legal betting is a huge help in curbing match fixing and game manipulation because everything gets tracked and the systems in place allow for investigations like this to happen. The spike in gambling controversies and legal betting do go hand-in-hand to an extent, but a big part of that is it’s now much easier to track and much harder to hide shaky behavior if done at a legal book. So, while I have laughed at jokes about this being a topic of discussion on NBA shows sponsored by DraftKings and FanDuel, this scenario (plus, yes, the money) is exactly why the league wants those places as partners.

[reddyplayerone]

Pete NEVER bet on his own team to lose. And he is a nobody while Rose is the base hit king of baseball and HOF'mer.

Big difference!

He's also this guy:

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/sports/baseball-legend-pete-rose-accused-sex-minor-1970s-faces-tainted-n788551

Everybody knew that was BS just to keep him from being a HOF. You don't know anything but making accusations cause you enjoy it.

I'm not the one who accused that guy of preying on children lmao

But sure keep defending him! It's a real good look!