GT: YANKEES @ BLUE JAYS - Mon April 15 @ 7pm to Wed April 17 @ 3pm
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holy smokes the strike zone is trash lol would love to see the umpire report asap
raf1995 wrote:I just don’t think he has that kind of potential. I think we will regret not trading him for a haul in a few years when he’s a mid-tier starter with nice playmaking and defense and a shaky jumper.
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Randle McMurphy wrote:Raps in 4 wrote:Varsho haters in absolute shambles. But not me. I've been stanning the trade from day 1!Spoiler:
The trade was always a good one though it becomes completely obvious that is the case with even decent offensive years by Varsho and Kirk (which both are fully capable of).
It really wasn't a great trade if last year was the barometer. Moreno had a better season than Varsho, while also being 4 years younger. Varsho would need to significantly outproduce Moreno for the trade to be a win for us. If they continue to produce at a similar level (or if Moreno leapfrogs him), Arizona won the trade.
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thanks god we are scoring runs outside of Turner's off day at the plate.
raf1995 wrote:I just don’t think he has that kind of potential. I think we will regret not trading him for a haul in a few years when he’s a mid-tier starter with nice playmaking and defense and a shaky jumper.
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Raps in 4 wrote:Randle McMurphy wrote:Raps in 4 wrote:Varsho haters in absolute shambles. But not me. I've been stanning the trade from day 1!Spoiler:
The trade was always a good one though it becomes completely obvious that is the case with even decent offensive years by Varsho and Kirk (which both are fully capable of).
It really wasn't a great trade if last year was the barometer. Moreno had a better season than Varsho, while also being 3 years younger. Varsho would need to significantly outproduce Moreno for the trade to be a win for us.
Wait - was Kirk in the deal?
I thought the trade was Moreno and Gurriel for Varsho?
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Excited to see Swanson today.
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Raps in 4 wrote:Randle McMurphy wrote:Raps in 4 wrote:Varsho haters in absolute shambles. But not me. I've been stanning the trade from day 1!Spoiler:
The trade was always a good one though it becomes completely obvious that is the case with even decent offensive years by Varsho and Kirk (which both are fully capable of).
It really wasn't a great trade if last year was the barometer. Moreno had a better season than Varsho, while also being 3 years younger. Varsho would need to significantly outproduce Moreno for the trade to be a win for us.
ya trade is looking so meh. you win some you lose some.
raf1995 wrote:I just don’t think he has that kind of potential. I think we will regret not trading him for a haul in a few years when he’s a mid-tier starter with nice playmaking and defense and a shaky jumper.
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bluerap23 wrote:Raps in 4 wrote:Randle McMurphy wrote:The trade was always a good one though it becomes completely obvious that is the case with even decent offensive years by Varsho and Kirk (which both are fully capable of).
It really wasn't a great trade if last year was the barometer. Moreno had a better season than Varsho, while also being 3 years younger. Varsho would need to significantly outproduce Moreno for the trade to be a win for us.
Wait - was Kirk in the deal?
I thought the trade was Moreno and Gurriel for Varsho?
He wasn't. Kirk is just the catcher we decided to keep. He has no bearing on this trade being a win or loss for us.
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I'm not in shambles. I'm still not a fan of the trade and I think we gave up too much to get Varsho. It's early in the season. Varsho hitting 2 HRs in one game doesn't change my mind. Let's see how the course of the season pans out.
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Varsho fielding is a thing of beauty
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bluerap23 wrote:Raps in 4 wrote:Randle McMurphy wrote:The trade was always a good one though it becomes completely obvious that is the case with even decent offensive years by Varsho and Kirk (which both are fully capable of).
It really wasn't a great trade if last year was the barometer. Moreno had a better season than Varsho, while also being 3 years younger. Varsho would need to significantly outproduce Moreno for the trade to be a win for us.
Wait - was Kirk in the deal?
I thought the trade was Moreno and Gurriel for Varsho?
its because we could have moved Kirk instead i guess. and Moreno plays the same position. .. i guess
raf1995 wrote:I just don’t think he has that kind of potential. I think we will regret not trading him for a haul in a few years when he’s a mid-tier starter with nice playmaking and defense and a shaky jumper.
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Raps in 4 wrote:bluerap23 wrote:Raps in 4 wrote:
It really wasn't a great trade if last year was the barometer. Moreno had a better season than Varsho, while also being 3 years younger. Varsho would need to significantly outproduce Moreno for the trade to be a win for us.
Wait - was Kirk in the deal?
I thought the trade was Moreno and Gurriel for Varsho?
He wasn't. Kirk is just the catcher we decided to keep. He has no bearing on this trade being a win or loss for us.
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Hottie McShotty wrote:I'm not in shambles. I'm still not a fan of the trade and I think we gave up too much to get Varsho. It's early in the season. Varsho hitting 2 HRs in one game doesn't change my mind. Let's see how the course of their career pans out.
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raf1995 wrote:I just don’t think he has that kind of potential. I think we will regret not trading him for a haul in a few years when he’s a mid-tier starter with nice playmaking and defense and a shaky jumper.
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Soto is absolutely incredible throw the Ohtani money at him if we still have it lol
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who was Soto staring down at the Blue Jays dugout as we has rounding 3rd base? did anyone see that?
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Damn Soto would have been so good on this team
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Raps in 4 wrote:Randle McMurphy wrote:Raps in 4 wrote:Varsho haters in absolute shambles. But not me. I've been stanning the trade from day 1!Spoiler:
The trade was always a good one though it becomes completely obvious that is the case with even decent offensive years by Varsho and Kirk (which both are fully capable of).
It really wasn't a great trade if last year was the barometer. Moreno had a better season than Varsho, while also being 4 years younger. Varsho would need to significantly outproduce Moreno for the trade to be a win for us. If they continue to produce at a similar level (or if Moreno leapfrogs him), Arizona won the trade.
The Jays have 2 better catchers than Moreno (including one that is basically his age) and got the best defensive player in baseball out of the deal. Long-term was always gonna be the issue with it, but unless Moreno somehow learns to hit for any power (which doesn’t appear likely), I’m not too worried about this one long-term either.
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bluerap23 wrote:Raps in 4 wrote:Randle McMurphy wrote:The trade was always a good one though it becomes completely obvious that is the case with even decent offensive years by Varsho and Kirk (which both are fully capable of).
It really wasn't a great trade if last year was the barometer. Moreno had a better season than Varsho, while also being 3 years younger. Varsho would need to significantly outproduce Moreno for the trade to be a win for us.
Wait - was Kirk in the deal?
I thought the trade was Moreno and Gurriel for Varsho?
The Jays were very clearly betting on Kirk (as opposed to Moreno) in making the deal, so yes, his production going forward is extremely relevant to evaluating the deal.
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welcome back Swans...... wtf
raf1995 wrote:I just don’t think he has that kind of potential. I think we will regret not trading him for a haul in a few years when he’s a mid-tier starter with nice playmaking and defense and a shaky jumper.
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That was demolished lol
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lol at just dropping these rehab RPs into the highest leverage save situations and expecting it to just work out
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