bwgood77 wrote:sunskerr wrote:bwgood77 wrote:
I can't really just give up Lopez if he providing so much value if I am competing. I may not be at the top but I'm not at the bottom either and I'm not going to completely tear it down. So for a guy like that I likely need an overpay since it could easily push someone over the top. Especially for both of them. Lopez is a guy I'd likely protect if he was possibly an 8th because I can't see getting his production in the first round. I mean a crapshoot rookie could be great or a bust but hard to know and usually nothing good fast in the late first.
I mean I can give you a tear it down package for Jokic...
edit: awards and trophies have been handed out going back to the 2017-18 season on the dynasty spreadsheet. Some people may be surprised with what they've got.
I guess I might consider something like SGA, Sengun and Jalen or JJJ for Jokic.
On another note, did you mention JJJ earlier? I would give you Middleton and Lopez for him.
My friend you would have to add something (small) to Jokic to get SGA who is 4 years younger and comparable per game value. Adding Sengun and Jalen of course you'd consider that, that's an entire rebuilding cycle on a platter to get 1 full superstar and 2 borderline all stars under 25 JJJ is not on the block for 36 year old Lopez and Middleton's corpse.
Of course I am always aggressively looking for the guy to pair with SGA. Just a matter of time. But one of the guys I have now could easily take that step.
But you could get like Sengun + young guy + Harden (flip for another pick) + both my 1sts for Jokic (then we work out the details on the pick swaps) which imo you probably couldn't get a better blow it up package. But you don't want to blow it up and your team is good so you shouldn't be anyway. You should be like top 4 next year.
bwgood77 wrote:Also to win you usually need to get the #1 pick in a generational player type year (or player thought of as generational), make another great pick that turns into a superstar and maybe already have a star.
Look at bigfoot. He got a team with Curry than got the #1 pick and Zion and was able to trade him for KD and more I think...getting a far more valuable player...so Curry and KD together...then he got a great pick in Ball....which he got a great package for.
Or just have a stacked team. I think someone who won recently had a really stacked team through some lopsided trades or I can't remember how it happened...maybe "this team is rated PG?"
The thing is, my team has some top players and is relatively young with a 3x MVP. If it was old..it would be ok. I got Bane in drafts...kind of late in the 4th round and then got Lopez by not giving much up in trade in Killian Hayes.
Yeah you have to be kind of stacked to win now with how much talent the top teams in the league are. Only non-stacked teams that won I saw when I looked through the league history was Kerrsed in 2018 and myself in 2021. In 17-18 though the league wasn't as polarized in terms of talent accrued in the top few teams as it is nowadays. But in 20-21 whilst the winning roster wasn't stacked in terms of superstar talent, it was just full of solid players. I sort of knew that roster wouldn't have the same success though which is kind of why I pivoted to a rebuild the next season despite being probably the youngest championship team so far.
2022-23 season was the most stacked and polarized in terms of talent and league standings. Top 3 teams finished within 3 points of each other, all over 111 points. And the rosters for those teams were ridiculous. Next year though we could see 5-6 teams though competing with lots of talent, based on what I saw this year.
Thankfully terovibe is still in phase 1 of his rebuild. It should be a couple of years before he can fill out his team around Wembanyama, who was absolutely ridiculous and is by far the most valuable player in dynasty formats. If he puts a team around Wembanyama though we're all doomed and I don't think I'm exaggerating that much.