dhsilv2 wrote:Mr B wrote:CobraCommander wrote:If you throw Giannis and Luka in there as well - I’m with you-
The next 3 are close to each other this year but no where neeeeaaarrrrr Jokic
Luka has not had a better year than SGA
SGA has not separated himself from Luka
Giannis has not been better than or worse than Luka and SGA
Not everyone sees it the same way as you. Luka and SGA are just as deserving of the MVP as Jokic. You can point to this obscure stat or that obscure stat as reason why Jokic should win but the reality is most people view these 3 as extremely close in the MVP race. All three are deserving.
You can point to the most talked about and used stats out there to push for Jokic. You don't need anything obsure. That said...jokic and sga had the same team records where it's pretty clearly we all agree SGA has the better teammates. And luka doesn't have much worse and didn't finish as well.
You're saying Luka doesn't have much worse teammates which happened at the trade deadline yet punishing him for not having as many wins for not having them before the trade deadline. The Mavs were not that great before the trade deadline. They were starting Maxi and Grant Williams who was awful in Dallas after the first month. Both that and the substantial injuries they suffered including Kyrie missing 20 something games is a very good explanation for why they don't have as many wins. If they had the post trade deadline team with health all season they win 60 games if you stretch out their wins/losses since the trade deadline over the season. I'm sure someone will say that's what ifs and it's a full season award etc.... that's fine, but Luka is being punished for having a worse team and he had no drop off from then to now.
Murray + MPJ + Gordon is way better than what the Mavs had before the trade deadline, and Denver has good role players too. Caldwell-Pope gives them 10 ppg and defense for example. I'm not even sure who the #3 guy was in Dallas before the trades. Just a bunch of average players lumped together.