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alpngso wrote:we put out crap product but pay gold for it - MLSE
refshateRaps wrote:Scase wrote:refshateRaps wrote:The business case isn't there and I personally feel the atmosphere is far too commercialized and corny these days which takes away from someone who use to just love the game.
Always been baffled by the people that excessively consume massively overpriced food in a box for 3 hours. Tho whenever we do attend with free tix it has become a great lesson to teach my kids about why some people have poor health and cant save money.
This is a bit of a limited world view IMO. If I go out to a game and eat a bunch of junk food and blow money on it, that doesn't mean I am unhealthy nor incapable of saving money.
People have cheat days, people splurge when they go out for entertainment etc. And others, that money doesn't even make a dent. I'm not here to tell you how to parent, but painting everyone with the same brush is a pretty bad lesson to teach.
I'm not here to tell you how to read but as I said 'some people'. Which is far from 'painting everyone' with the same brush.
refshateRaps wrote:The business case isn't there and I personally feel the atmosphere is far too commercialized and corny these days which takes away from someone who use to just love the game.
Always been baffled by the people that excessively consume massively overpriced food in a box for 3 hours. Tho whenever we do attend with free tix it has become a great lesson to teach my kids about why some people have poor health and cant save money.
And1Skip wrote:refshateRaps wrote:The business case isn't there and I personally feel the atmosphere is far too commercialized and corny these days which takes away from someone who use to just love the game.
Always been baffled by the people that excessively consume massively overpriced food in a box for 3 hours. Tho whenever we do attend with free tix it has become a great lesson to teach my kids about why some people have poor health and cant save money.
I see a bit of both sides when I go to games, especially Raptors games (vs Leafs). Yes, there are those that splurge and that I know also splurged on buying their tickets from ticketmaster but I'm guessing they are just doing that because its their "night out" with no limits on spending perhaps for that 1 night. Then there are those like me, SSH, don't spend too much on food and don't drink alcohol as I'm with my kid. I remember my SSH neighbor, a SSH with 3 tickets with his wife and daughter - the wife asks the food concession guy how much is the Haagen Daaz and the guy said "$18" and she looks in disgust and does not buy. I looked at the husband and we both smile. I teach my kids too, like why pay $18 for that when we have that at home in our chest freezer when we bought the ice cream bar, 9 for $10 at Costco?
However, when I get taken out to a game in the Platinums with Suite access from one of the Big 4 firms, I make sure I milk them till every drop on the food pre-game/halftime, alcohol and of course the haagen daaz ice bars at the end. This season they took me and my team out to the Nets game late in the season. I actually loved that we were tanking because I did not care about the game 1 bit and just kept on eating and drinking, and talking "business" with the folks taking us out. Quite the difference when they've taken me out to playoffs games when I forget to order stuff because i"m so into the actual game. So ya, some of the excessive consuming of food/drink maybe because its one of those "corporate" seats.
DelAbbot wrote:And1Skip wrote:refshateRaps wrote:The business case isn't there and I personally feel the atmosphere is far too commercialized and corny these days which takes away from someone who use to just love the game.
Always been baffled by the people that excessively consume massively overpriced food in a box for 3 hours. Tho whenever we do attend with free tix it has become a great lesson to teach my kids about why some people have poor health and cant save money.
I see a bit of both sides when I go to games, especially Raptors games (vs Leafs). Yes, there are those that splurge and that I know also splurged on buying their tickets from ticketmaster but I'm guessing they are just doing that because its their "night out" with no limits on spending perhaps for that 1 night. Then there are those like me, SSH, don't spend too much on food and don't drink alcohol as I'm with my kid. I remember my SSH neighbor, a SSH with 3 tickets with his wife and daughter - the wife asks the food concession guy how much is the Haagen Daaz and the guy said "$18" and she looks in disgust and does not buy. I looked at the husband and we both smile. I teach my kids too, like why pay $18 for that when we have that at home in our chest freezer when we bought the ice cream bar, 9 for $10 at Costco?
However, when I get taken out to a game in the Platinums with Suite access from one of the Big 4 firms, I make sure I milk them till every drop on the food pre-game/halftime, alcohol and of course the haagen daaz ice bars at the end. This season they took me and my team out to the Nets game late in the season. I actually loved that we were tanking because I did not care about the game 1 bit and just kept on eating and drinking, and talking "business" with the folks taking us out. Quite the difference when they've taken me out to playoffs games when I forget to order stuff because i"m so into the actual game. So ya, some of the excessive consuming of food/drink maybe because its one of those "corporate" seats.
The key lesson is how did you explain to the kids why it's $18 at the game?
tecumseh18 wrote:Duffman100 wrote:Real easy, don't buy tickets.
About 6 years ago I deemed the ticket prices to be too high in relation to the product. I'd rather sit at home on my couch and drink reasonably priced beer while watching on a 70 inch TV.
Though, with kids now I want them to experience it at some point.
You gave them up SIX years ago? That's not quite the flex you seem to think it is.
2024 - 6 years = 2018. Raptors had just topped the Eastern Conference with the second best record in the league. And they swept the season series against the top Western Conference Rockets. Arguably, they were the best team in the league.
Yeah, yeah, then they were swept out of the second round. Which motivated them to trade for Kawhi. I'll never regret not having seasons tickets that year.
2019nbachamps wrote:How much control do team presidents have over ticket prices in MLSE?
Duffman100 wrote:Real easy, don't buy tickets.
About 6 years ago I deemed the ticket prices to be too high in relation to the product. I'd rather sit at home on my couch and drink reasonably priced beer while watching on a 70 inch TV.
Though, with kids now I want them to experience it at some point.
MoneyBall wrote:I'm sad that Scottie was unsuccessful at lowering ticket prices.
DelAbbot wrote:2019nbachamps wrote:How much control do team presidents have over ticket prices in MLSE?
100% it's key part of their job. They build the team and know the trajectory / position on the competitive cycle, and set the pricing accordingly (also according to market demand). Masai probably has a team of MBA's on this.
tecumseh18 wrote:Well, I "feel" for my bank account and sense of life priorities (two teens approaching university age). So I finally gave up my seasons tickets after ~15 years. The 30% increase in the last two seasons is 30% too much - especially for the product I'm getting.
The truth is, the current seasons ticket price for a particular seat is HIGHER than the resale price on Ticketmaster you can pay for that seat an hour or so before the game. So it's cheaper to do that every home game than buy seasons seats.
C_Money wrote:DelAbbot wrote:2019nbachamps wrote:How much control do team presidents have over ticket prices in MLSE?
100% it's key part of their job. They build the team and know the trajectory / position on the competitive cycle, and set the pricing accordingly (also according to market demand). Masai probably has a team of MBA's on this.
He answered this question at the press conference. MLSE sets the ticket prices but they ask his input on it.
JB7 wrote:DelAbbot wrote:And1Skip wrote:
I see a bit of both sides when I go to games, especially Raptors games (vs Leafs). Yes, there are those that splurge and that I know also splurged on buying their tickets from ticketmaster but I'm guessing they are just doing that because its their "night out" with no limits on spending perhaps for that 1 night. Then there are those like me, SSH, don't spend too much on food and don't drink alcohol as I'm with my kid. I remember my SSH neighbor, a SSH with 3 tickets with his wife and daughter - the wife asks the food concession guy how much is the Haagen Daaz and the guy said "$18" and she looks in disgust and does not buy. I looked at the husband and we both smile. I teach my kids too, like why pay $18 for that when we have that at home in our chest freezer when we bought the ice cream bar, 9 for $10 at Costco?
However, when I get taken out to a game in the Platinums with Suite access from one of the Big 4 firms, I make sure I milk them till every drop on the food pre-game/halftime, alcohol and of course the haagen daaz ice bars at the end. This season they took me and my team out to the Nets game late in the season. I actually loved that we were tanking because I did not care about the game 1 bit and just kept on eating and drinking, and talking "business" with the folks taking us out. Quite the difference when they've taken me out to playoffs games when I forget to order stuff because i"m so into the actual game. So ya, some of the excessive consuming of food/drink maybe because its one of those "corporate" seats.
The key lesson is how did you explain to the kids why it's $18 at the game?
Because Rogers/Bell are evil, and Costco isn't
SFour wrote:I was hoping tanking would result in lower prices not higher....but I guess that was just wishful thinking...can't expect that from a business owned by Rogers/Bell.
Scase wrote:refshateRaps wrote:Scase wrote:This is a bit of a limited world view IMO. If I go out to a game and eat a bunch of junk food and blow money on it, that doesn't mean I am unhealthy nor incapable of saving money.
People have cheat days, people splurge when they go out for entertainment etc. And others, that money doesn't even make a dent. I'm not here to tell you how to parent, but painting everyone with the same brush is a pretty bad lesson to teach.
I'm not here to tell you how to read but as I said 'some people'. Which is far from 'painting everyone' with the same brush.
My point is you have no clue who those "some people" are. Using random people at an event having a good time who might very likely be completely comfortable spending that money/being healthy, as an example of "some people" being unhealthy/incapable of saving is pretty ignorant. But you do you I guess.