Official Summer 2024 Magic Free Agency and Trade Ideas Thread 4.0

[shadrock]

Offer 80 M/4 front loaded contract to Monk

Offer a 1+1 contract to goga, if he rejects it go after a vet C with similar offer

Draft BPA with highest ceiling



Monk, AB, Cole
Suggs, Jett, Cole
Franz, Houstan,joe
PB, Moe , 2024 FRP
Ji, Wcj, goga

If we want Monk in Orl, that contractis going to make your toes curl. Im talking 4/130 levels of insanity. Hes going to want a huge financial reason to come here.

[Knightro]

The Kings only have Monk’s early bird rights, so the most they can offer him is 4/78.

That is basically the starting point because he’ll just go back to Sacramento at that price.

So you’re talking it’s gonna have to be pretty significantly over that to get him to blink.

I think something like 3/90 to 3/100 would get it done, but do you really want to pay Malik Monk $30 million a year or more?

[basketballRob]

The Kings only have Monk’s early bird rights, so the most they can offer him is 4/78.

That is basically the starting point because he’ll just go back to Sacramento at that price.

So you’re talking it’s gonna have to be pretty significantly over that to get him to blink.

I think something like 3/90 to 3/100 would get it done, but do you really want to pay Malik Monk $30 million a year or more?

No, he's a bench player.

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[VFX]

I like Monk. Don’t get me wrong. But he addresses one issue with shooting and he’s streaky for that kind of money. We need to address issue at point guard.

[Skybox]

-Cole and our second rounder for Sexton.
-Trade Carter for a shooting guard that can actually shoot.
-Use #16 on a wing that can also shoot.

Sexton/AB
Suggs/SG
Franz/ #16
Paolo/ vet
Isaac/ Moe

Problems pretty much solved.

Sexton’s no more of a PG than Suggs (despite the assists). I heard him say on a podcast around mid-season that his efficiency was up because he wasn’t being asked to play PG.

[Skybox]

The Kings only have Monk’s early bird rights, so the most they can offer him is 4/78.

That is basically the starting point because he’ll just go back to Sacramento at that price.

So you’re talking it’s gonna have to be pretty significantly over that to get him to blink.

I think something like 3/90 to 3/100 would get it done, but do you really want to pay Malik Monk $30 million a year or more?

Very few teams have that available and far fewer would use it on Monk…most importantly, Sacramento CANNOT offer a sign and trade…so I don’t think he gets a crazy deal…there will be fewer suitors than his talent would normally bring. He could, if he didn’t like the offers, sign a 1-year deal and try again next year…but if Weltman wants him - he can make it happen (if he doesn’t come in too stingy and send him back to SAC for a year.

[T-Cat]

Chris Paul might be a free agent this off season if waived by Golden State before draft day

[sChOlaRlY_Magi]

Chris Paul might be a free agent this off season if waived by Golden State before draft day

I know it's 2k, but I traded for him at the start of the season. Basically to get Podz and Kelle a new home.

I ended up getting Saric too, and this was offered by GS to get out of CP3s contract! Lol

[Residual-Heat]

I like Monk. Don’t get me wrong. But he addresses one issue with shooting and he’s streaky for that kind of money. We need to address issue at point guard.

Monk is more than just a shooter. He is a decent pick n roll ball handler. He is able to create for himself and others. Drives to the rim and can pass. Per 36 he averages 7 Assts, 3 TO, 21 Points. Compare him to someone like Darius Garland who people here seem to love so much, averages 7 assts, 3.3 TO, and 19.5 points per 36. Monk has a slightly better TS%.

Yes Monk comes off the bench and plays less minutes, and I dont know exactly how he would perform as a starting PG playing 30+ MPG, but I doubt it will be a big drop off. His defense has improved to where I think you can start him on the Magic. He's not going to be a top 10 point guard, but he should be okay, and there arent many better options in FA. Obviously you also dont have to give up any assets for him and if it doesnt work out, you can still use your assets to trade for a starting guard. Either you include Monk in that trade, or move him to 6th man where we know he will be one of the best in the league in that role.

[VFX]

I like Monk. Don’t get me wrong. But he addresses one issue with shooting and he’s streaky for that kind of money. We need to address issue at point guard.

Monk is more than just a shooter. He is a decent pick n roll ball handler. He is able to create for himself and others. Drives to the rim and can pass. Per 36 he averages 7 Assts, 3 TO, 21 Points. Compare him to someone like Darius Garland who people here seem to love so much, averages 7 assts, 3.3 TO, and 19.5 points per 36. Monk has a slightly better TS%.

Yes Monk comes off the bench and plays less minutes, and I dont know exactly how he would perform as a starting PG playing 30+ MPG, but I doubt it will be a big drop off. His defense has improved to where I think you can start him on the Magic. He's not going to be a top 10 point guard, but he should be okay, and there arent many better options in FA. Obviously you also dont have to give up any assets for him and if it doesnt work out, you can still use your assets to trade for a starting guard. Either you include Monk in that trade, or move him to 6th man where we know he will be one of the best in the league in that role.

If you are paying Monk that kind of money you are 100% starting him if there is zero starting point guard on this roster. That’s the point. He can be a pick and roll option, but if free agency boils down to landing 1 guy with a huge price tag I’m looking at an actual point guard that can set the pace and orchestrate an offense. Not a guy that can sometimes go off and pretend to be a point guard.

[VFX]

-Cole and our second rounder for Sexton.
-Trade Carter for a shooting guard that can actually shoot.
-Use #16 on a wing that can also shoot.

Sexton/AB
Suggs/SG
Franz/ #16
Paolo/ vet
Isaac/ Moe

Problems pretty much solved.

Sexton’s no more of a PG than Suggs (despite the assists). I heard him say on a podcast around mid-season that his efficiency was up because he wasn’t being asked to play PG.

I see Sexton as an option much like Tyus only in the aspect that they can fill in as a starting option for relatively cheap compared to others. You can do a LOT worse than Sexton and he’s not going to be targeted on defense. Getting one of those guys leaves room for acquiring another shooter on the wing that won’t cost Monk money.

[Rainwater]

Offer 80 M/4 front loaded contract to Monk

Offer a 1+1 contract to goga, if he rejects it go after a vet C with similar offer

Draft BPA with highest ceiling



Monk, AB, Cole
Suggs, Jett, Cole
Franz, Houstan,joe
PB, Moe , 2024 FRP
Ji, Wcj, goga

If we want Monk in Orl, that contractis going to make your toes curl. Im talking 4/130 levels of insanity. Hes going to want a huge financial reason to come here.

Monk is best used as a 6th man and has broken out as a 6th yet people want to start him. Why? They tried to start him in LA next to AD and Bron and got rid him the very next year. If we have seen the experiment has not worked on another contender why should the magic reattempt it.

I am tired of seeing the magic running experiments to see if a player can hit another level. They did it with Bol, they it with Fultz, they did with AG, they even did it with Darko. Blowing up after 6 years in the league rarely works. Don’t waste Paolo’s and Franz’s time. Go get someone more established.

[Knightro]

Monk would 100% have to be a starting guard to justify the salary it would take to draw him out of Sacramento.

The question is, can he actually be an effective starter?

He has never really been a starter before, but his per 36 numbers have been really strong the last two years.

EPM doesn't like him - 194th ranked player this year, but BPM (83rd) and LEBRON (73rd) graded him much more favorably.

[mg]

-Cole and our second rounder for Sexton.
-Trade Carter for a shooting guard that can actually shoot.
-Use #16 on a wing that can also shoot.

Sexton/AB
Suggs/SG
Franz/ #16
Paolo/ vet
Isaac/ Moe

Problems pretty much solved.

Sexton’s no more of a PG than Suggs (despite the assists). I heard him say on a podcast around mid-season that his efficiency was up because he wasn’t being asked to play PG.

I was listening to exit interviews of some of the eliminated teams (Yes I'm a huge geek) and Sexton mentioned that playmaking/facilitating was going to be a focus for him moving forward. He did improve his assist totals and floor game this year so he's doing something right. Regardless they will obviously need to do something to improve the guard play without breaking up the Banchero/Franz/Suggs core.

[Knightro]

Monk is best used as a 6th man and has broken out as a 6th yet people want to start him. Why? They tried to start him in LA next to AD and Bron and got rid him the very next year. If we have seen the experiment has not worked on another contender why should the magic reattempt it.

I am tired of seeing the magic running experiments to see if a player can hit another level. They did it with Bol, they it with Fultz, they did with AG, they even did it with Darko. Blowing up after 6 years in the league rarely works. Don’t waste Paolo’s and Franz’s time. Go get someone more established.

To be fair, he started less than half of the games for the Lakers three years ago and his stats were actually better as a starter than a reserve.

He also wasn't playing point guard there.

[Knightro]

I don't think Sexton is really a point guard at all, but he is legitimately a very good scorer on a great contract.

But like Monk and Russell and Simons and plenty of others, he's an extremely bad defensive player.

[Optimus_Steel]

McDermott, a FA, looking awful

[Knightro]

You can do a LOT worse than Sexton and he’s not going to be targeted on defense.

I like Sexton, but the metrics don't agree with this part.

[Driguez]

Seeing how the Hawks may want to trade Trae, how do you all feel about trading for him? Can shoot, can assist and fits the timeline.

[T-Cat]

Chris Paul might be a free agent this off season if waived by Golden State before draft day

I know it's 2k, but I traded for him at the start of the season. Basically to get Podz and Kelle a new home.

I ended up getting Saric too, and this was offered by GS to get out of CP3s contract! Lol

We could offer CP3 a starting spot (2 yr Front loaded deal) and we finally a have a true leader Anthony Black can learn from. We could limit Chris Paul's minutes to 20 per game.