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Re: Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 6.0 -Everything's Gonna Be All Wright 

Post#1401 » by IceColdCubano » Mon Apr 22, 2024 4:11 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Celtics shot 49 3s, 42 of them were either open (21) or wide open (21). That is fuxking disgusting

The worst part is they all looked identical, like they ran the same play over and over and we behaved in the same manner on every single one of them. That tells me its not random, its structurally our gameplan, which is good news, meaning we could change the outcome based on intention. Hopefully we see a lot less of these open 3's in the next game giving us a more competitive game. Open 3's are such back breakers, because Miami playing bully ball working so hard in the half court to score 2 points, them running down the court hitting open trays is just so defeating.
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Re: Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 6.0 -Everything's Gonna Be All Wright 

Post#1402 » by eddieheatfan » Mon Apr 22, 2024 5:20 pm

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Jaquez and Jovic are both 2-3 years away from being primed at being really good supporting players borderline stars if they improve drastically. I don't think theyll both hit in the star department but I think one of them will become quality role player/starter material and one could become a potential borderline low-esque star. With Bam in tow, this could look very nice in the next couple years, as long as we have the 1A alpha scorer here, that's the guy missing here. It looks like it works out perfectly with Jimmy expiring, one build heading into another. After this draft upcoming we have no first round selections for a couple years, so keeping as Jovic/JJJ is exponentially important, as essentially losing them means that your heading into dark twilight years 2025-2026 of no first round picks and Jimmy bad contract tail end. Roziers/Duncan's contract also coincides with that timeline with them expiring as well.

I could see our FO taking a step back to take a step forward it will suck for everyone here because we don't make a big swing in the next 2 years, just small gap fillers to stay competitive while we focus on the next iteration of the build. This offseason will be very telling on what the direction of the team is, not making the splash tells me where we are heading in the upcoming build.


i expect more gleaguers and what have you? maybe just maybe we get mitchell but i think that the heat will have to part with a few players before upgrading for real. i'm sorry but jimmy 's time with the heat is up. the heat needs to look for a younger star player in the offseason. but i wont be holding my breath on that one seen the recent past since cabron left


Not sure you've noticed but Miami's been looking for a star since Butler's been here, it's the reason they didn't keep that first finals team together to go after Giannis with cap space and the last 2 seasons, Miami's went after KD and Lillard which they didn't have enough assets to get, so if you don't have enough assets for an older star it probably means you don't have enough for a more expensive younger star. Everyone needs to understand there's a reality of the situation, EVERYONE WANTS A YOUNGER STAR and just getting a draft pick near the top of the draft doesn't mean you'll get one, Golden State (who people thought could do no wrong)... who had 1 down year and a trade that gave them a very high pick had 3 top picks, a #2, #7 and #14 after 3+ years none of those players are regular starters although Kuminga might finally be getting there and the #2 pick got moved for nearly nothing.

What I've noticed about basically all these team boards is that a portion of the fanbase isn't happy unless they're dominating or have a potential star and couldn't care less about anyone else on the team, it doesn't work that way, young stars don't fall in your lap nor do teams always draft correctly like Miami passing on Maxey just a 3 years ago. It's like fans don't remember what Miami basketball was like before Butler forced his way to Miami, Miami once again overpaid for its players, were stuck with some bad contracts and were cheering on Dion Waiters and so were also so happy with the franchise because of them experimenting with PG Winslow.

Even if Miami makes no moves at all this summer (which I'm expecting they will try), Miami should have a better team and a starting 5 that any one of them could drop 20 points on any given evening, something they've not had since Butler's been in Miami. The FO will continue to look to acquire another star level player and hopefully they don't move Jaquez Jr to get it, he possibly could end up being 80-90% of what Butler's peak is/was.

Miami doesn't have a Wemby, A.Edwards, Mitchell, Doncic or even and up and comer in Maxey (Miami said no to him) but they do have a FO that is looking for the next gamechanger, maybe now they won't just set their sights on the top player available but be willing to trade for just a top-level player or even trading up in a draft if they can identify a player they think they can mold into a franchise guy. Most teams have to take a chance, Michell was the 13th pick by Denver and Utah traded for his rights, Luka went 3rd to Atlanta and Dallas trade for his rights, Giannis went 15th while Cleveland took Anthony Bennett #1, also that draft The Process Philadelphia 76ers traded for the rights of #6 N.Noel and also drafted ROTY MCW at #11 all with Giannis and his potential still on the board, who knew he'd grow a couple more inches?

Miami has some younger talent now that can develop and learn from the older guys and Miami also has a FO that understands where they currently are, have got some confirmation that the guy they banked on being better than D.Booker might not be that and with that, they can move forward making moves to strengthen the roster.

You'd think a person like myself who's been following Butler would want him moved since only a team that is close to being a contender would trade for him but I'm not, I don't think Miami's all that far away from having a strong enough team to compete for a championship and that's all you can ask for if you don't have a MVP level candidate, and even with that level of player doesn't mean you're a championship level team, ask Philly and Dallas.


it seems to me that the heat hasnt tried hard enough. but that just me and could be wrong. either way as construed this team is going nowhere and will be an 8th seed for seasons to come walling up in a sea of mediocrity. again, i can only speak for myself but no, i'm not happy with the current trajectory of this team.

watching the regular season was not entertaining at all. last year they pulled a series of "miracles" thanks to buttler and to a lesser extent struss and martin. this year is already a different beast.

i like butler but i think that he cannot longer be of service as focus of the offense. things must change if the heat wants to get better
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Re: Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 6.0 -Everything's Gonna Be All Wright 

Post#1403 » by batterybro42 » Mon Apr 22, 2024 6:11 pm

Miami is going to position itself for the 2026 offseason, only reasonable move to be made is to move Herro for sometype of temporary upgrade or draft capital depending on their plan.

They will extend Jovic, and go into a free agency with Bam, Jamie, and Jovic locked up with a ton of money to spend on one of the most loaded free agent classes to be presented to the NBA. This has been the plan for a long time, that's what Made the Dame move interesting, as it did not mess with this timeline.

2026 will be the year things change in a large way for Miami, we will likely get 2 more seasons with this same core together unless an upgrade can be made without interfering with the next build.
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Post#1404 » by IceColdCubano » Mon Apr 22, 2024 6:11 pm

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He is going to go to the highest bidder, stay tuned.....yeah keep pumping your value up Donovan your really selling yourself out of Miami Heat market value if your not already outpriced. This dude is Prime 112 steak cost range while the FO has the budget for Outback steak house. Miami counting their dimes and nickels from under the car seat just to get a serving of the premium mac and cheese from premium sides menu. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post#1405 » by Flash4thewin » Mon Apr 22, 2024 7:01 pm

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He is going to go to the highest bidder, stay tuned.....yeah keep pumping your value up Donovan your really selling yourself out of Miami Heat market value if your not already outpriced. This dude is Prime 112 steak cost range while the FO has the budget for Outback steak house. Miami counting their dimes and nickels from under the car seat just to get a serving of the premium mac and cheese from premium sides menu. :lol: :lol: :lol:


So painfully true, except replace Outback steak with Waffle House steak. :lol:
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Re: Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 6.0 -Everything's Gonna Be All Wright 

Post#1406 » by AirP. » Mon Apr 22, 2024 7:05 pm

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Not sure you've noticed but Miami's been looking for a star since Butler's been here, it's the reason they didn't keep that first finals team together to go after Giannis with cap space and the last 2 seasons, Miami's went after KD and Lillard which they didn't have enough assets to get, so if you don't have enough assets for an older star it probably means you don't have enough for a more expensive younger star. Everyone needs to understand there's a reality of the situation, EVERYONE WANTS A YOUNGER STAR and just getting a draft pick near the top of the draft doesn't mean you'll get one, Golden State (who people thought could do no wrong)... who had 1 down year and a trade that gave them a very high pick had 3 top picks, a #2, #7 and #14 after 3+ years none of those players are regular starters although Kuminga might finally be getting there and the #2 pick got moved for nearly nothing.

What I've noticed about basically all these team boards is that a portion of the fanbase isn't happy unless they're dominating or have a potential star and couldn't care less about anyone else on the team, it doesn't work that way, young stars don't fall in your lap nor do teams always draft correctly like Miami passing on Maxey just a 3 years ago. It's like fans don't remember what Miami basketball was like before Butler forced his way to Miami, Miami once again overpaid for its players, were stuck with some bad contracts and were cheering on Dion Waiters and so were also so happy with the franchise because of them experimenting with PG Winslow.

Even if Miami makes no moves at all this summer (which I'm expecting they will try), Miami should have a better team and a starting 5 that any one of them could drop 20 points on any given evening, something they've not had since Butler's been in Miami. The FO will continue to look to acquire another star level player and hopefully they don't move Jaquez Jr to get it, he possibly could end up being 80-90% of what Butler's peak is/was.

Miami doesn't have a Wemby, A.Edwards, Mitchell, Doncic or even and up and comer in Maxey (Miami said no to him) but they do have a FO that is looking for the next gamechanger, maybe now they won't just set their sights on the top player available but be willing to trade for just a top-level player or even trading up in a draft if they can identify a player they think they can mold into a franchise guy. Most teams have to take a chance, Michell was the 13th pick by Denver and Utah traded for his rights, Luka went 3rd to Atlanta and Dallas trade for his rights, Giannis went 15th while Cleveland took Anthony Bennett #1, also that draft The Process Philadelphia 76ers traded for the rights of #6 N.Noel and also drafted ROTY MCW at #11 all with Giannis and his potential still on the board, who knew he'd grow a couple more inches?

Miami has some younger talent now that can develop and learn from the older guys and Miami also has a FO that understands where they currently are, have got some confirmation that the guy they banked on being better than D.Booker might not be that and with that, they can move forward making moves to strengthen the roster.

You'd think a person like myself who's been following Butler would want him moved since only a team that is close to being a contender would trade for him but I'm not, I don't think Miami's all that far away from having a strong enough team to compete for a championship and that's all you can ask for if you don't have a MVP level candidate, and even with that level of player doesn't mean you're a championship level team, ask Philly and Dallas.


it seems to me that the heat hasnt tried hard enough. but that just me and could be wrong. either way as construed this team is going nowhere and will be an 8th seed for seasons to come walling up in a sea of mediocrity. again, i can only speak for myself but no, i'm not happy with the current trajectory of this team.

watching the regular season was not entertaining at all. last year they pulled a series of "miracles" thanks to buttler and to a lesser extent struss and martin. this year is already a different beast.

i like butler but i think that he cannot longer be of service as focus of the offense. things must change if the heat wants to get better

He's the focus of the offense because he's the best player for that role but as we've been hearing for multiple off seasons now Miami has been trying to acquire a more consistent #1 that's proven in the playoffs in KD and Lillard. Seemly Butler has had no problem with a better player being brought in as you could tell with him really wanting Lillard which we all understand would also mean handing the offense over to Lillard and Butler stepping out of the main role. I think Butler will have no problem taking a step back once a better offensive player is on the roster. I do believe Miami has tried to develop Herro into that role but I don't see him ever being that level of player with the ball in his hand, would love for him to go back to his rookie year role.

To your point, I don't think they've tried as much as they could to bring in another #1 because they thought Herro might develop into that player. I still can't believe someone in the organization said "think better than Booker", that's crazy to say about anyone who wasn't even close to as good as Booker at the time.

Riley's already hinted at a build change and I think part of that change already happened with acquiring a volume scorer guard in Rozier with a 1st round pick. Moving that first and big expiring contract that would have helped greatly to get out of the tax kind of signals Butler's not going anywhere and Miami is prepared to stay in the tax. It is possible that this latest knee injury changes some of that but I doubt it. I think the main part of the build of Butler and Bam stay intact, the rest could be moved for a new #1 option for Miami, I'm sure they'd like to get a young star but may have to settle for someone a little bit older and cheaper.
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Post#1407 » by Hoops3355 » Mon Apr 22, 2024 7:06 pm

batterybro42 wrote:Miami is going to position itself for the 2026 offseason, only reasonable move to be made is to move Herro for sometype of temporary upgrade or draft capital depending on their plan.

They will extend Jovic, and go into a free agency with Bam, Jamie, and Jovic locked up with a ton of money to spend on one of the most loaded free agent classes to be presented to the NBA. This has been the plan for a long time, that's what Made the Dame move interesting, as it did not mess with this timeline.

2026 will be the year things change in a large way for Miami, we will likely get 2 more seasons with this same core together unless an upgrade can be made without interfering with the next build.



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Yeah 100%. The only way this changes if they do something truly outrageous like trading Jimmy for someone (I don't see it but like there's definitely some places are would be interesting in having a conversation if they called and happened to have a 6'10''+ player who can rebound, semi athletic, and hit an open shot here and there.
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Post#1409 » by eddieheatfan » Mon Apr 22, 2024 8:18 pm

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15. Bam Adebayo note that bam cant even crack the top ten. and its the only heat player that at least made it to 15th position. i would expect better from a max contract
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15. Bam Adebayo note that bam cant even crack the top ten. and its the only heat player that at least made it to 15th position. i would expect better from a max contract


So if a guy making $30M a year isn’t a top 10 player in the league you dont think he’s worth it?
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Post#1411 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Mon Apr 22, 2024 8:40 pm

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Post#1413 » by Enso » Mon Apr 22, 2024 10:39 pm

I have a feeling Rozier will be a last minute addition on Wed, could be wrong but that's my gut feeling.
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Post#1414 » by Enso » Mon Apr 22, 2024 10:42 pm

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damn son that sucks, it is what it is though.
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Post#1416 » by KingDavid » Mon Apr 22, 2024 11:48 pm

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Dwyane Wade is rolling over in his grave, the Donovan Mitchell trade package went out to the club

During the playoffs...welp. Maybe Herro wanted to take the youngins out. They better ball out next game then.
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Post#1417 » by carnageta » Mon Apr 22, 2024 11:49 pm

Herro should be locked inside a gymnasium after that Sunday afternoon performance. Lol
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Post#1418 » by MorbidHEAT » Tue Apr 23, 2024 12:09 am

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No worries. This is a team building orgy in the VIP room. Boston better watch out for game 2…
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Post#1419 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Tue Apr 23, 2024 12:14 am

I wanted Oubre this summer when he wanted to be here for the vet minimum for a solid scoring punch but watching this Knicks Sixers series through the first game and a half he’s a far better defender than he showed in Charlotte; he has Jalen Brunson in hell
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Post#1420 » by MorbidHEAT » Tue Apr 23, 2024 12:14 am

No Jimmy at all for round 1. Going to be a short series, fellas.

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